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Reading Bukhari in volume 2 released from Al Medina during down time.
I came across this Hadith numbered 123, which reads:
Narrated Anas: Whenever drought threatened them, Umar bin Al Khattab used to ask Al-Abbas bin Abdul Muttalib to invoke God for rain. He used to say, "O God, we used to ask our Prophet to invoke you for the rain, and You would bless us with the rain, and now we ask his uncle to invoke you for the rain. O God bless us with the rain." And so it would rain.
The translating scholar writes:
It is of great importance to notice that it is permissible for one to request a living religious person to invoke God on his behalf but if you ask God through a dead or absent person then it is not allowed. It is absolutely forbidden to request anything from the dead.
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The ban on the shamanistic vestigial practice in some cultures, of turning to graves to request favors or ask for intervention appears to be have a very sound basis on this authentic tradition.
It is important to see that the companions did not turn to the Prophet's grave and ask the most esteemed figure in the religion to intervene, even though he had passed.
Furthermore, the hadith defines Islamic etiquette in a superb way.
Notice the fact that Umar Bin Al Khattab, despite asking Al-Abbas to pray, also prays directly to God on his own too.
This is a fantastic hadith because it clarifies that every Muslim has a direct capability, without the need for an intercessor, to pray to God (hence why Umar prays), but that the learned ones and scholarly ones also be approached for advice and their prayers.
I came across this Hadith numbered 123, which reads:
Narrated Anas: Whenever drought threatened them, Umar bin Al Khattab used to ask Al-Abbas bin Abdul Muttalib to invoke God for rain. He used to say, "O God, we used to ask our Prophet to invoke you for the rain, and You would bless us with the rain, and now we ask his uncle to invoke you for the rain. O God bless us with the rain." And so it would rain.
The translating scholar writes:
It is of great importance to notice that it is permissible for one to request a living religious person to invoke God on his behalf but if you ask God through a dead or absent person then it is not allowed. It is absolutely forbidden to request anything from the dead.
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The ban on the shamanistic vestigial practice in some cultures, of turning to graves to request favors or ask for intervention appears to be have a very sound basis on this authentic tradition.
It is important to see that the companions did not turn to the Prophet's grave and ask the most esteemed figure in the religion to intervene, even though he had passed.
Furthermore, the hadith defines Islamic etiquette in a superb way.
Notice the fact that Umar Bin Al Khattab, despite asking Al-Abbas to pray, also prays directly to God on his own too.
This is a fantastic hadith because it clarifies that every Muslim has a direct capability, without the need for an intercessor, to pray to God (hence why Umar prays), but that the learned ones and scholarly ones also be approached for advice and their prayers.
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