magical thinkers

[Kochagasht]

please do explain, what exactly is the compatibility between science and religion? leaving evolution aside for the time being

[randolph85]

most of your threads belong in the religion section. just a heads up, chica.

[Kochagasht]

you're reported

[randolph85]

this should go well

[Kochagasht]

why you fail to move "only god can judge me..." thread, or is it because its posted by one of your other accounts?

[randolph85]

or...the fact that on a sunday night i don't like finding and moving individual threads one by one especially after trying to move all yours here.

[Kochagasht]

ignore list

[randolph85]

we have one of those?

[Badlun]

please do explain, what exactly is the compatibility between science and religion? leaving evolution aside for the time being

I wanted to start a thread on this theme after having some discussion on my thread Reason versus Religion. I am happy you took the lead.

I do not think there is any connection between religion including Islam and science. Both have totally different approaches, scope, domain, sphere of influence and goals.

Religion is based on revelation from a supernatural entity or entities while science is based on senses and experiment. Science is verifiable and its laws(natural sciences) are equally applicable every where. Two molecules of Hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen will always make water while there are huge differences in various religions of the world.

Goal of religion is faith, morality and worship and consequently success in life after death while science is mostly concerned about nature, physical and biological worlds and the betterment of this world not having place in paradise. Science does not focus on morality. A nuclear device can produce a bomb or nuclear energy by fusion or fission.

[Badlun]

we have one of those?

Physician heal thyself. Please comment on the topic not beating about the bush. You are a moderator and be a model for others not derailing the thread to off the topic stuff.

[Kochagasht]

I wanted to start a thread on this theme after having some discussion on my thread Reason versus Religion. I am happy you took the lead.

I do not think there is any connection between religion including Islam and science. Both have totally different approaches, scope, domain, sphere of influence and goals.

Religion is based on revelation from a supernatural entity or entities while science is based on senses and experiment. Science is verifiable and its laws(natural sciences) are equally applicable every where. Two molecules of Hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen will always make water while there are huge differences in various religions of the world.

Goal of religion is faith, morality and worship and consequently success in life after death while science is mostly concerned about nature, physical and biological worlds and the betterment of this world not having place in paradise. Science does not focus on morality. A nuclear device can produce a bomb or nuclear energy by fusion or fission.

i agree too, wholeheartedly

personal evidence is subjective and hard to falsify; hard evidence is empirical and objective in aim. believing in something without any evidence personal or otherwise is blind faith, believing in something that cannot be proven outside of subjective or personal experience might not be rational but it happens, frequently. faith substantiated by personal experience is not fact, but it is a common position,

there is no strength in number when it comes to the veracity of truth, but absolute truth is ultimately illusive; i think there is an argument to be made for a differentiation between blind faith and faith based on subjective experiences

[randolph85]

Physician heal thyself. Please comment on the topic not beating about the bush. You are a moderator and be a model for others not derailing the thread to off the topic stuff.

I wasn't here for the topic, i was here because of the several threads that were posted in the wrong section.

[Badlun]

i agree too, wholeheartedly

personal evidence is subjective and hard to falsify; hard evidence is empirical and objective in aim. believing in something without any evidence personal or otherwise is blind faith, believing in something that cannot be proven outside of subjective or personal experience might not be rational but it happens, frequently. faith substantiated by personal experience is not fact, but it is a common position,

there is no strength in number when it comes to the veracity of truth, but absolute truth is ultimately illusive; i think there is an argument to be made for a differentiation between blind faith and faith based on subjective experiences

Blind faith arises because of authority. For examples a Muslim in God believes in God on the authority of his/her prophet, Qur'an, local Mullah, school teacher or parents. Majority do no have any personal experience or research or meditation to explore and discover a God. Others say there is a God and we endorse it. Only theologists may have discussions on ontology , teleology ,cause and efefct and other arguments to reach a God.

I think let the people enjoy their beliefs, modes of worship and religion may have some role in morality but science is the greatest benefactor of human kind. Science and religion are two parallel lines which never mix, never touch each other and have their own exclusive paths and goals.

Religion become destructive when it take shape of Islamism or Church of Middle Ages. Science become destructive when nuclear energy is used as bomb and not for generation of electricity.

[khushal]

please do explain, what exactly is the compatibility between science and religion? leaving evolution aside for the time being

Many of your posts don't make sense.
how can you leave evolution aside from it. Science has many theories including ones that says the belief in God is innate.

[Pakhtunzai]

Religion become destructive when it take shape of Islamism or Church of Middle Ages.

On one hand your calling yourself a muslim and then on the other you are criticising islam? Your a walking talking contradiction.