Evolution

[faye]

I understand superstition.
If you cant prove telepathy or prove that I did not go to mars and came back, then it is superstition nonsense.

some people classify belief in god/cosmic consciousnes or a creator as superstitious.
if the meaning of superstition is -a belief in supernatural causality or any belief or notion not based on reason or knowledge, then belief in allah, can be classified as superstition.

if you say you went to mars astrally, in an out of body experience, then maybe you did. i can't prove you right or wrong. you will know in yourself and there is no reason for you to have to prove it to anyone. your choice.
if i believe in telepathy and astral travel, because i have experienced it, many times, then that is my reality, which i have no need to prove to you or anyone.
when you classify others beliefs or their experiences as NONSENSE, then you are saying that it does not make sense to you. that could infer that you have a closed mind or that you haven't had such experiences and you don't believe that others can have such experiences. both of those, show the closed mind.
just because scientific minds don't believe in something, does not mean it does't exist.

[khushal]

ets say : fish evolving into a land animal.
how did it happen? why did it happen?

@khushal
you may answer as well.


NO ANSWER?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...-missions.html

[khushal]

some people classify belief in god/cosmic consciousnes or a creator as superstitious.
if the meaning of superstition is -a belief in supernatural causality or any belief or notion not based on reason or knowledge, then belief in allah, can be classified as superstition.

if you say you went to mars astrally, in an out of body experience, then maybe you did. i can't prove you right or wrong. you will know in yourself and there is no reason for you to have to prove it to anyone. your choice.
if i believe in telepathy and astral travel, because i have experienced it, many times, then that is my reality, which i have no need to prove to you or anyone.
when you classify others beliefs or their experiences as NONSENSE, then you are saying that it does not make sense to you. that could infer that you have a closed mind or that you haven't had such experiences and you don't believe that others can have such experiences. both of those, show the closed mind.
just because scientific minds don't believe in something, does not mean it does't exist.

hahahahahaha. you made me laugh with this post by saying you had an out of body experience and traveled the cosmos. I dont doubt that you actually think you had this experience but I beleive it was your imagination much like how people in my village talk about seeing ghost like figures or that people in the city I live in swear they saw a UFO. I have noticed that most of these sighting happen when they had woken up from sleep. In my teens, my brother used to have night terrors where he would wake up from sleep but couldnt move for about an hour, my mom told him that a "hypiscay" which is some kind of being that had a hold of him and it was preventing him from moving. hahahahaha. I told her it was a medical condition and she like you was stubborn and kept with the superstition.

A creator exists because I(creation) exist. That is not superstition unless my existance is an imagination but as Decarte put it, "I think" therefore I am not an imagination.

[faye]

hahahahaha...you made me laugh that you still think the 'i' is imprisoned in the body, which is only 'information', lol.
the unknown reality is all superstition then, to you.

because 'i' says it exists, still does not prove 'i' was created by a god. creation being only 'i's imagination/hologram/hallucination,a dream.
which is the dream, when you are awake of when you sleep? maybe both.

[Tjanaparh]

thats not what im asking.

since species "evolve" from one to another,how does it happen?why does it happen?


does it happen all up sudden or does it happen in stages and after many failed attempts?

It surely does not happen one of a sudden.The key in nature is diversity.
To give an example, some species tend in nature do give hybrids so that new species evolve.
That is for example the case for plants and some fishes.

Alsoto clearly define a species isn't easy. If You look some organisms considered as different species are quiet close and have minimal differences. While some relatively similar organisms are sometimes even seen as different genera, not only species.
It is difficult, modern genetics gives genetical relationships, but still I think it isn'T easy.

[Khostai]

Don't bring elders in this. I can also say a lot but i respect elders.
But you should thank taliban at least once in your life.

Never in my life, even if you give me one million.
And no stop replaying to me.

[ډګروال]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...-missions.html

ive seen this article matter of fact if you write fish to land animals you will get this article.
lets put this aside and lets hear from you in simple terms.


first of all that fossil doesnt suggest the fish had feet but lets save that for later.
lets assume this news article is true for the sake of argument.

so what was the need for the fish to change into land animal?
Did it happen all up sudden or did you it happen after numerous attempts?

i have more questions so lets have a healthy discussion regarding this topic and yes ive done my research on this topic and have listened to pro and con.

[khushal]

hahahahaha...you made me laugh that you still think the 'i' is imprisoned in the body, which is only 'information', lol.
the unknown reality is all superstition then, to you.

because 'i' says it exists, still does not prove 'i' was created by a god. creation being only 'i's imagination/hologram/hallucination,a dream.
which is the dream, when you are awake of when you sleep? maybe both.

I already explained how the "I" exists. Read decarte for more detailed elaboration.

[Friend]

What about human body evolution where some scientists claim that human was first monkey ?

[Tjanaparh]

ive seen this article matter of fact if you write fish to land animals you will get this article.
lets put this aside and lets hear from you in simple terms.


first of all that fossil doesnt suggest the fish had feet but lets save that for later.
lets assume this news article is true for the sake of argument.

so what was the need for the fish to change into land animal?
Did it happen all up sudden or did you it happen after numerous attempts?

i have more questions so lets have a healthy discussion regarding this topic and yes ive done my research on this topic and have listened to pro and con.

Dear Bridmal, there are even actually fishes that live part of their life on land.
Mostly it has to do with finding its space on this earth.
If all plants would only grow on acid ground, all fishes only eat mosquitoes ... than there would be everything already eaten and destroyed.
So fishes for example tend to devide in different life spheres , feed on different food, be active in different times....

Even inside one species such things happen.


For example there is a fish in the Volga river that one part f his population always stays in the river, while the other lives like a nomad from sea to river and back. It is exactly the same species, but their sizes differ due to food and also genetical changes that already occured.
They do not intermingle mostly, but they are same species and can have normal healthy fishes. They also look the same.

[khushal]

ive seen this article matter of fact if you write fish to land animals you will get this article.
lets put this aside and lets hear from you in simple terms.


first of all that fossil doesnt suggest the fish had feet but lets save that for later.
lets assume this news article is true for the sake of argument.

so what was the need for the fish to change into land animal?
Did it happen all up sudden or did you it happen after numerous attempts?

i have more questions so lets have a healthy discussion regarding this topic and yes ive done my research on this topic and have listened to pro and con.

The theory of evolution is just a guess, but a guess based on evidence. The evidence suggests that all life is connected, related, created from the same source and needs the same resources to survive. Why does life need to change and adapt, because life is driven to spread beyond where it is or where it was. Life struggled to get beyond the water, so it adapted to spread and expand. Life is struggling to get beyond the earths atmosphere, so it is struggling by using tools and intellect to take its environment with it beyond earth. Did it happen in stages or all of a sudden, we can only guess by looking at the evidence.
We see fossils that tell us species evolved slowly and gradually. How many thousands of years did it take for man to get out of the cave and learned how to use tools and build sophisticated societies that could build spaceships to take life out of the Earth.

[khushal]

What about human body evolution where some scientists claim that human was first monkey ?

who says that human was first monkey?

[khushal]

Don't bring elders in this. I can also say a lot but i respect elders.
But you should thank taliban at least once in your life.

The reason he likes talking about peoples parents is because he wants you to talk about his parents. He enjoys other people talking about his parents because he has no respect for them and loathes them. It is all subconscience. He is not aware that he loathes his parents.

[DaZahroJaam.]

We began as algae from near the core of the earth. Apparently.

[faye]

I already explained how the "I" exists. Read decarte for more detailed elaboration.

no you didn't. you said 'i' exists, but not how. unless you mean you believe 'i' is god.