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  • #16
    Originally posted by faye View Post
    name of the game bro..choose your poison.

    water borne bacteria or depleted uranium inhalation, bald head, glasses, narcissistic personality disorder, incapacity to be able to survive without a supermarket and modern technology..

    Is that why the Europeans destroyedthe aboriginal population to near extinction.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
      Is that why the Europeans destroyedthe aboriginal population to near extinction.
      Yes it is
      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
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      • #18
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        actually in both math and physics and biology theory is defined the same way, because they're all sciences, all sciences operate under the same methodology of research

        This means you have never studied math/physics or biology. Theory in both implies how evidence tells us about how the whole thing works Anyone who rejects theory of evolution doesn't understand theories of physics or maths It's already been proven true; we have observed speciation
        wrong again, there can't be any logical proofs for it.
        That shows how stupid you are about the crap,that you utter.

        In mathe a theory stands for ever and is defined and explained through a formula and can't be refuted.

        In physics,chemistry and biology we have theories and many are refuted afterwards,we have a huge graveyard of such theories.

        Is there a single formula explaining the Evolution ?....
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        • #19
          Evolution. You may have heard the cross fire of white albino mutant insults, the misunderstanding of the meaning of the theory of evolution, or not knowing the many strands of the theory and the conditions and assumptions, which are taken for granted under the egoistically grunted argument that "we did not evolve from monkeys".

          This link I think is not bad. If you have a moment, browse:

          http://http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/cro_magnon_Homo_sapien.htm

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            wrong again, there can't be any logical proofs for it.
            That shows how stupid you are about the crap,that you utter.

            In mathe a theory stands for ever and is defined and explained through a formula and can't be refuted.

            In physics,chemistry and biology we have theories and many are refuted afterwards,we have a huge graveyard of such theories.

            Is there a single formula explaining the Evolution ?....
            You're a completely ignorant bufoon and total fraud and it is abundantly evident that you have never studied Math, physics or any other science

            Logical Proof is only a method of proof using assumed premises; their truth values MAY or MAY NOT be true.

            Evidence often contradicts The assumed premises and show something else to be true; This is the way Logical proofs work.

            The fact you think proof of Existence is based on logical proofs shows you neither understand logic or proofs


            Which theories are refuted afterwards in Physics, Biology or Chemistry? Is there a single formula explaining Lebesgue Measure? Is there a single formula which describes a Fourier Series expansion for an Elliptical PDE?

            Your questions show your premises are based on false ignorance. You don't know science AT ALL ....but just pretend ...everyone who studied science on a professional level can see your errors plainly.
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            • #21
              10 Debunked Scientific Beliefs Of The Past







              Science fills us all with great wonder and it has done so for generations, but there have been an incredible number of “scientific discoveries” which were later found to be completely false. This list looks at ten of the more fascinating cases of scientific falsehoods from history.


              10 Rain Follows the Plow




              “Rain Follows the Plow” is the name given to a climatology concept which is now completely debunked. The theory said that human settlement caused a permanent increase in rainfall – thus enabling man to move to areas previously considered arid. It is this 19th century theory that brought about the settlement of the Great Plains (previously known as the Great American Desert), and parts of South Australia. The theory was eventually refuted by climatologists, and in the settled areas of South Australia, drought brought an end to the attempted settlements.

              9 World Ice Theory




              This strange theory has a relatively normal name, but rest assured, the concept is far from it. Hans Hörbiger (pictured above), an Austrian engineer and inventor received a vision in 1894 which told him that ice was the substance of all basic substances and had created the ice moons, ice planets, and a “global ether”. He said “I knew that Newton had been wrong and that the sun’s gravitational pull ceases to exist at three times the distance of Neptune[.]” Unbelievably this theory got a great deal of support. One of the strongest supporters of the concept was Houston Stewart Chamberlain (British born posthumous son-in-law of composer Richard Wagner) who went on to become one of the leading theorists behind the development of the Nazi Party in Germany.

              8 Alchemy




              Alchemy has its roots (in the Western world) in Ancient Egypt where it combined with metallurgy in a form of early science. The Egyptian alchemists discovered the formulas for making mortar, glass, and cosmetics. From Egypt it eventually spread to the rest of the Ancient world and led to modern alchemy in which men would try to turn metals into gold, to conjure up genies, and perform all manner of bizarre not-so-science-like activities. While it has contributed in some ways to modern science, the discipline of true science caused the death of alchemy which could not stand up to the rigorous testing of its pseudoscience.

              7 California Island





              From the 16th century, European experts in geography were convinced that California was an island separate from the North American mainland. Maps of the time show a large island on the left of the land mass and California continued to appear this way even into the 18th century. There was at the time also a rumor that California was an earthly paradise like the Garden of Eden or Atlantis. A romance novel from 1510 describes it thus:
              Know, that on the right hand of the Indies there is an island called California very close to the side of the Terrestrial Paradise; and it is peopled by black women, without any man among them, for they live in the manner of Amazons. – Las Sergas de Esplandián by Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo
              The matter was finally put to rest indisputably on the 1774-1776 expeditions of Juan Bautista de Anza. Interestingly, it is likely that within 25 million years, Baja California and part of Southern California really will separate from North America due to tectonic plate movement.

              6 Geocentricity




              Geocentricity is the concept which states that the earth is the center of the Universe and that all other objects move around it. The view was universally embraced in Ancient Greece and very similar ideas were held in Ancient China. The idea was supported by the fact that the sun, stars, and planets appear to revolve around Earth, and the physical perception that the Earth is stable and not moving. This was combined with the belief that the earth was a sphere; belief in a flat earth was well gone by the 3rd century BC. The geocentric model was eventually displaced with the work of of Copernicus, Galileo, and Kepler in the 16th Century.











              5 The Four Humors




              In classical antiquity right up to modern times, it was believed that the body contained four humors: blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm. It was believed that the right balance of these four humors made a person healthy but an excess or decrease in any one of these would cause illness. Because of this belief, treatments of sickness would include bloodletting, purges, and emetics. Occasionally a mixture of herbs would be used to restore the balance. The humors were also applied to foods – for example wine was choleric (yellow bile). This classification still exists today to some extent, as we refer to some foods as “hot” and others as “dry”. The concept of humors was not replaced until 1858 when Rudolf Virchow published theories of cellular pathology.

              4 Vitalism




              Vitalism states that the functions of living things are controlled by a “vital force” and not biophysical means. Vitalism has a long history in medical philosophies – and it has ties to the four humors. It is sometimes referred to as a “life spark” and even as the soul. In the Eastern traditions it is essentially the same thing as “qi” or “chi”, which is heavily tied in to oriental medicinal methods. The concept is (as can be expected) completely rejected by most mainstream scientists. In 1967, Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, stated “And so to those of you who may be vitalists I would make this prophecy: what everyone believed yesterday, and you believe today, only cranks will believe tomorrow.”

              3 Maternal Impression




              Maternal Impression is an old belief that a mother’s thoughts while pregnant can impart special characteristics on the child in her womb. For many years this idea was used to explain congenital disorders and birth defects. Maternal Impression was used to explain the disorder suffered by the Elephant Man: it was suggested that his mother was frightened by an elephant while she was pregnant with him – thereby imprinting the memory of an elephant on her child. Depression was also explained in this manner. If a mother had moments of strong sadness during pregnancy, it was believed that her child would ultimately suffer from depression in later life. Genetic theory caused the almost complete eradication of this belief in the 20th century.

              2 Phlogiston




              The theory of phlogiston dates to 1667 when Johann Joachim Becher (a German physicist) suggested that there was a fifth element (phlogiston) to go with the four classical elements (Earth, Water, Air, Fire) which was contained within objects that could burn. It was believed that when an object burned, it released its phlogiston (an element without taste, mass, odor or color) and left behind a powdery substance called calx (what we now know to be oxide). Objects that burned in air were considered to be rich in phlogiston and the fact that a fire burned out when oxygen was removed was seen as proof that oxygen could only absorb a limited amount of the substance. This theory also led to the idea that the human need to breathe had a sole function which was to remove phlogiston from the body. The entire concept was superseded by Antoine-Laurent Lavoisier’s discovery that combustion could only occur with the help of a gas such as oxygen.

              1 Spontaneous Generation




              Before microscopes and theories of cells and germs, man had other ideas about the creation of living things. He bizarrely believed that life arose from inanimate matter (for example, maggots come spontaneously from rotting meat). Proponents of this view (virtually everyone) used the Bible as a source of evidence, due to the fact that God made man from dust. However, the view did exist before Christianity and Aristotle said, in no uncertain terms, that some animals grow spontaneously and not from other animals of their kind. Earlier believers had to come up with some pretty strange ideas to make their theory work: Anaximander (a Greek philosopher who taught Pythagoras) believed that at some point in man’s history, humans had been born from the soil spontaneously in adult form, otherwise they could never have survived. Before we laugh too hard at the ancients, we should note that many Scientists right up to the 19th century believed this, and some even wrote recipe books for making animals. One such recipe (to make a scorpion) calls for basil, placed between two bricks and left in sunlight. The theory was not finally put to rest until 1859, when Louis Pasteur proved it wrong once and for all.
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              • #22
                bahahahahhaha .....none of those are scientific theories


                science is tested and based on evidence those are superstitions ...wow you're are an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!
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                • #23
                  Molecular biology refutes the theory of evolution.





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                  Around since 1950, with the opening of the structure of the DNA molecule, the world of molecular biology began to reveal its secrets. And the deeper scientists to penetrate the mysteries of the living molecules, the more obvious it became that the theory of evolution does not give a satisfactory explanation for the phenomenon of life. Michael Denton (Michael Denton), a molecular biologist who now works in Australia, has put forward a convincing case against Darwinism in his book “Evolution: the crisis of theory” (”Evolution – A Theory in Crisis”; Burnett Books, 1985, pp. 368) .Some of his arguments presented in this brochure.
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                  Biomolecules
                  The structure of any living organism – say, a cat – is composed of various organs, such as the liver or kidneys, and they, in turn, are composed of cells. Cells represent a set of thousands of different biomolecules, packed in original container – cell wall. Although the smallest bacterial cell weighs less than one millionth of a microgram, it contains thousands of committed on a plan of biomolecules, which consist in general of almost a billion atoms. In the inanimate world, there is nothing that could match the complexity of these biomolecules. One variety of biomolecules – proteins. There are many types of protein, each of which represents a chain of amino acids. Another class of these living molecules – nucleic acids, DNA and RNA, consisting of chains of sugars, phosphates and nitrogenous bases. In all organisms – from bacteria to man – the proteins, DNA, mRNA, etc. play the same role. They use the same biological code and the same mechanism of transmission of code to build new molecules. Cells of all organisms contain the same types of biomolecules such as cytochrome C, and mRNA. This implies that there is no body, which could be regarded as the progenitor of an evolutionary sense. Bacterial cells in their composition are not more primitive than human cells.
                  Evolution of biomolecules
                  Biomolecules to carry out certain work within the cell. For example, protein molecules can act as an enzyme in a carefully coordinated chain of reactions to release energy from nutrients and use it in some creative processes. The ability of the enzyme to carry out a specific task (most of them have only one function) is a consequence of its unique three-dimensional structure (see fact sheet 214). Enzymes interact with the substrate based on key and lock, so if in the course of evolution changes the structure of the lock, the key is no longer able to approach it. Precisely because of this accuracy is function and form is very difficult to assume the existence of viable progenitor, not to mention a whole chain of intermediate links in the supposed evolution of biomolecules. In the case of sickle-cell anemia, changes only one amino acid in human red blood cells causes a massive distortion of the entire cite architectonics cells. Minimal change reverses a-helical and b-folded protein structure. If even one minor change to prevent normal functioning of cells, it is unthinkable to assume that the biomolecules evolved through a sequence of small changes.
                  Information.
                  Nucleic acids carry the genetic information in coded form, the same in all living organisms. Information cannot arise because of random processes, it involves intelligent design. As Michael Denton is not a creationist, the findings all the more evidence in favor of creationist theory.
                  Concerted action
                  In a living cell, all molecules interact with each other. Each constituent molecule must be fully engaged to cell could survive and reproduce. For example, for the synthesis of a protein molecule cell requires about a hundred other different proteins that act in concert with the mRNA. It is hard to imagine the first protocols in which this process would have been perfect.



                  Read more: http://scienceray.com/biology/molecu...#ixzz28AdDItmh
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                  • #24


                    Denton is best known for his 1985 book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, in the book he presented a systematic critique of neo-darwinism ranging from paleontology, fossils, homology, molecular biology, genetics and biochemistry and argued that evidence of design exists in nature. Denton however is not a creationist. He describes himself as an evolutionist, and he has rejected biblical creationism. Because of his book he is often regarded as the person who laid the intellectual foundations for the Intelligent Design movement.[6] The book influenced both Phillip E. Johnson, the father of intelligent design, and George Gilder, co-founder of the Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement.[7] Since writing the book Denton has changed many of his views on evolution, however he still believes that the existence of life is a matter of design.[8]
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                    • #25
                      Surfer Dude's Theory Of Everything Refuted, Mathematician Says

                      The "exceptionally simple theory of everything," proposed by physicist Antony Garrett Lisi in 2007 does not hold water, according to a particle physicist and mathematician writing in Communications in Mathematical Physics.

                      In November of 2007, Lisi published an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything." The paper centered on the elegant mathematical structure known as E8, which also appears in string theory. First identified in 1887, E8 has 248 dimensions and cannot be seen, or even drawn, in its complete form.

                      The enigmatic E8 is the largest and most complicated of the five exceptional Lie groups, and contains four subgroups that are related to the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force (which binds quarks); the weak force (which controls radioactive decay); and the gravitational force.

                      In a nutshell, Lisi proposed that E8 is the unifying force for all the forces of the universe. Lisi spent much of his time surfing in Hawaii, adding a bit of color to the story surrounding the theory. Although his paper was not peer-reviewed, and Lisi himself commented that his theory was still in development, the idea was widely reported in the media, under attention-grabbing headlines like "Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything."

                      But math doesn't care what the media have to say, the researchers say.

                      Using linear algebra and proving theorems to translate the physics into math, authors of the new paper not only showed that the formulas proposed in Lisi's paper do not work, they also demonstrated the flaws in a whole class of related theories.

                      "You can think of E8 as a room, and the four subgroups related to the four fundamental forces of nature as furniture, let's say chairs," explains says Emory University mathematician Skip. "It's pretty easy to see that the room is big enough that you can put all four of the chairs inside it. The problem with 'the theory of everything' is that the way it arranges the chairs in the room makes them non-functional."

                      He gives the example of one chair inverted and stacked atop another chair

                      "A lot of mystery surrounds the Lie groups, but the facts about them should not be distorted," Garbaldi says. "These are natural objects that are central to mathematics, so it's important to have a correct understanding of them."

                      Jacques Distler, Skip Garibaldi, 'There is no "Theory of Everything" inside E8', Communications in Mathematical Physics, March 2010; doi:10.1007/s00220-010-1006-y
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        Denton is best known for his 1985 book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, in the book he presented a systematic critique of neo-darwinism ranging from paleontology, fossils, homology, molecular biology, genetics and biochemistry and argued that evidence of design exists in nature. Denton however is not a creationist. He describes himself as an evolutionist, and he has rejected biblical creationism. Because of his book he is often regarded as the person who laid the intellectual foundations for the Intelligent Design movement.[6] The book influenced both Phillip E. Johnson, the father of intelligent design, and George Gilder, co-founder of the Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement.[7] Since writing the book Denton has changed many of his views on evolution, however he still believes that the existence of life is a matter of design.[8]
                        That means it was flawed , and is stil flawed.

                        It is not proven.

                        Scientists once blieved the earth was flat lol.
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                        • #27
                          Space Scientists Refute Theory Of Cosmic Ray Origin


                          An international group of researchers who call themselves the IceCube Collaboration has produced surprising results about one of the most enduring mysteries in physics – the origin of cosmic rays.



                          AsianScientist (Apr. 26, 2012) – An international group of researchers who call themselves the IceCube Collaboration has produced surprising results about one of the most enduring mysteries in physics – the origin of cosmic rays.
                          First discovered 100 years ago, cosmic rays are electrically charged particles, such as protons, that strike Earth from all directions, with energies up to 100 million times higher than those created in man-made accelerators.
                          Physicists have focused their interest on two potential sources of cosmic rays: the massive black holes at the center of active galaxies, and the exploding fireballs observed by astronomers as gamma ray bursts (GRBs).
                          The IceCube Neutrino Observatory observes neutrinos, which are believed to accompany cosmic ray production, by detecting the faint blue light produced in neutrino interactions in ice.
                          In a paper published in the journal Nature, the IceCube collaboration describes a search for neutrinos emitted from 300 GRBs observed between May 2008 and April 2010.
                          GRBs, the universe’s most powerful explosions, appear briefly about once per day, and are so bright that they can be seen from halfway across the visible Universe.
                          Surprisingly, the team found no evidence of neutrinos – a result that contradicts 15 years of predictions.
                          “This is the most important result so far from the IceCube observatory. Gamma ray bursts don’t seem to make neutrinos as we previously thought, which means they probably aren’t making cosmic rays either,” said IceCube consortium member Dr. Gary Hill of the University of Adelaide.
                          Although the team has taken a major step towards ruling out one of the leading predictions in GRBs, they still have not discovered where cosmic rays come from.
                          “The unexpected absence of neutrinos from GRBs has forced a re-evaluation of the theory for production of cosmic rays and neutrinos in a GRB fireball and possibly the theory that high-energy cosmic rays are generated in fireballs,” said IceCube spokesperson and University of Maryland physics professor Greg Sullivan.
                          The article can be found at: IceCube Collaboration (2012) An absence of neutrinos associated with cosmic-ray acceleration in γ-ray bursts.
                          ——
                          Source: University of Adelaide; Photo: S. Swardy, University of Chicago/NASA.
                          Disclaimer: This article does not necessarily reflect the views of AsianScientist or its staff.
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                          • #28
                            American Physicist Refutes Greenhouse Gas Theory


                            Summary
                            Physicist, Joseph E. Postma publishes groundbreaking paper that refutes the standard greenhouse gas hypothesis. The paper is a milestone publication for Principia Scientific International (PSI) having been the painstaking product of the collective study of all the avialable scientific literature. Postma's work was in no small measure due to the invaluable input of several PSI researchers.
                            Postma finds:
                            The effective blackbody radiative ensemble temperature of Earth’s surface and its atmosphere does not directly relate to the ground temperature. We should expect the surface-air temperature to be higher than the ensemble temperature because 1) the input flux density has a much higher temperature than -180C; 2) the temperature distribution of any atmosphere in thermal equilibrium with a source of heat is already one in which the surface-air temperature is higher than the effective radiative temperature of the ensemble.
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                            • #29
                              Nature's Destiny
                              Denton still accepts design and embraces a non-Darwinian evolutionary theory. He denies that randomness accounts for the biology of organisms, he has proposed an evolutionary theory which is a “directed evolution” in his book Nature's Destiny (1998). Life according to Denton did not exist until initial conditions of the universe were fine tuned (see Fine-tuned Universe).[9] Denton was influenced by Lawrence Joseph Henderson (1878-1942), Paul Davies and John D. Barrow who argued for an Anthropic Principle in the cosmos (Denton 1998, v, Denton 2005). Thus his second book Nature's Destiny (1998)[10] is his biological contribution on the Anthropic Principle debate which is dominated by physicists. He argues for a law-like evolutionary unfolding of life.[11]
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                                That means it was flawed , and is stil flawed.

                                It is not proven.

                                Scientists once blieved the earth was flat lol.
                                No if it was flawed, he wouldn't have changed his views on Evolution

                                No scientists have ever believed the world is flat LOL

                                people who think woman came from a rib did
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