Jesus (peace be upon him) did not die for your sins !

[Zirey]

Brother 2010,
God promises that "His Word endures forever." Therefore the Holy Scriptures always have been and always will be reliable.

As to specifics, Lot was a forgiven sinner, just as all believers are.

There are two genealogies of Jesus in the Bible because of His relationship to two different people: His mother Mary and His foster father Joseph.

The Lord Jesus loves His enemies. He teaches us to love our enemies too, if we want to imitate God.

The four Gospels found in the New Testament prove the historical events in four ways. Matthew in particular emphasizes the ancient prophecies fulfilled in the life of Jesus. Mark emphasizes the miraculous signs that Jesus performed. Luke emphasizes eyewitness testimony. John emphasizes the self-attesting power of truth on man's heart.

[faye]

'allah is one and likes unity'. let's work on this one and create this as our furure.

[IamDZJ]

do you like it when you go to places and people approach you to tell you that Islam is not the right religion and that you should convert to Christianity or some other religion?? no?? then why are you doing it to others??

[Afghanistan2010]

They can bring forth a discussion regarding anything related to islam,no one will fall on them and bite them.
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I have been approached more than once by people who told me islam is not the right religion...

[IamDZJ]

Arguing with you is worst than getting bitten. No one follows a religion out of boredom. Everyone thinks theirs is the right path and if they are not sure, they all know where to find you. People should be able to participate in a forum without being harassed about their religion.

[Zirey]

M17ArnoBaloch,
you had asked about how God could die--an excellent question. God is immortal, of course. We agree on that. The Bible teaches that Jesus was not only Divine but also human, both God and man. In His Divine nature, He could not die. He remained immortal. He died only in His human nature. Then He rose from the dead, becoming the firstfruits of the Resurrection.

Like DaZahroJaam, I think a forum only works with mutual respect among the participants. Harassment is unnecessary. Happily, this thread has been frank but not malicious.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I've never seen anywhere in the Bible which explicitly states Jesus was divine or human

that is ad-hoc interpolation of what the Biblical text says

[Afghanistan2010]

Let me ask you something Zirey brother,you believe that Jesus was or is God ?
If yes,God must know every single thing....yes
If yes,did Jesus (pbuh) know when the judgment day is ?

[Zirey]

Brother 2010,
you may have in mind the verse that says only the Father knows the day of the end. The question then understandably becomes, If Jesus is God, how can He not know something?

The answer is that the Messiah Jesus is both God and man, as the prophets foretold and as Jesus' eyewitnesses, the apostles, proclaimed.
In His Divine nature, He is all-knowing, unlimited in knowledge. As the apostle Peter said to Jesus,"You, Lord, know all things." مالِکه تا ته هر څۀ معلُوم دى

But Jesus chose to limit His knowledge in His human nature. This is why it is also recorded that as a young man, "Jesus increased in wisdom and stature". And yet He is Himself the perfect Word and Wisdom of God.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I honestly don't care if Zirey is a Christian, he can follow whatever idiotic babble he wants.

My concern is people like him trying to convert Muslims with idiotic hypotheses which only apply if you BUY the Christian Narrative in the first place. Many Muslims are naive and don't know much about Islam and Christianity and the fact that the Fundamental Assumptions of Christianity is TOTALLY baseless for a Muslim and at that BASELESS in reality outside of the Islamic Scope.

Christian "Theory", is you want to call it that depends on ONE concept, the idea that humans are intrinsically sinful and are suffering from the "original sin"

Without this concept, Christianity falls apart COMPLETELY, as then the concept of the Man-God, Crucifixion means absolutely nothing. And it's easy to see that the idea of "inherent" sin is nonsense as we don't see Infants sinning. if we were inherently sinful, we'd be sinning straight out of the womb

Islam holds no notion of original sin and what Justice would a Religion that argues you're GUILTY before you committed a crime be. If things are laid out plainly, No one would be duped into Christianity

we don't need these elaborate polemics that idotic Fanatics like Pakistan2010 uses. Just a straight approach.

[کیش]

The only thing good about Christianity....... are Christian girls from Texas

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Brother 2010,


But Jesus chose to limit His knowledge in His human nature. This is why it is also recorded that as a young man, "Jesus increased in wisdom and stature". And yet He is Himself the perfect Word and Wisdom of God.

What a bunch of excuses; chose to limit his knowledge? So how would he know to unlimit his knowledge, if his knowledge was limited

wow so many contradictions .....how do you get converts with these logical errors?

[Afghanistan2010]

Brother Zirey listen,i do believe Jesus (pbuh) was Gods prophet,he was the messiahs and was the son of mary and the miraculous birth of his child and he spoke when he was a baby...but does it not sound contradicting when you say such things.

He could have said : I am God myself,worship me ...why did he not say these ?

Why you guys drink from the blood of jesus (pbuh)...

[faye]

did he say 'worship me'?

[Afghanistan2010]

sorry my fault i forgot the dot.