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    Women paraded naked after ‘asking for girl’s hand in marriage’ for son

    MULTAN: A woman and her sister were paraded naked in the Khangarh subdistrict of Muzaffargarh on Wednesday after she asked for a girl’s hand in marriage for her son.

    According to details, Jamila* Mai’s son Asim*had a love affair with Asma*, daughter of Bilal Arayin, who lived in their neighbourhood.

    According to residents of the area, Asim had been beaten twice by Asma’s brother when he tried to meet her. The matter got resolved by locals every time. Recently, Asma requested Asim to send his parents to ask her hand in marriage.

    When Jamila and her sister Rukhsana* Bibi took Asim’s proposal, Bilal who has connections with a feudal family became angry and locked them up in a room and called his friends. The men tore the women’s clothes and recorded videos of them. Then they tied the women to a motorcycle rickshaw and paraded them naked in the area.

    Jamila said that the men told her that they will teach her a lesson about honour and the importance of the Arayin tribe in the area. “He said, you are a Baloch and will remain a Baloch and you do not deserve any honour and respect,” she added.

    The women were paraded in the area of Adaa Liaquatabad and were brought to a local bus/wagon terminal to make their punishment public.
    An eyewitness told The Express Tribune that the men kept on filming the women while parading them.

    The men ran away, leaving the women naked on the road, when residents of the area started protesting against them. According to the residents, they could not do much as the men belonged to a feudal family.

    Another eyewitness Muhammad Iqbal told The Express Tribune that the police was to blame because they were reluctant to take any official action against the men.

    The police came to resolve the issue three hours after residents of the area protested and blocked the national highway by burning tyres. They raided Bilal’s house but he was not found and instead Abdul Ghaffar Arayin and his son Irfan Arayin were arrested.

    An FIR has been lodged under Section 354-A, 148 and 149 in Khangarh Police Station against Abdul Ghaffar Arayin, Irfan Arayin, Irshad Arayin, Iqbal Arayin, Munir Hussain, Mureed Hussain and five other unknown criminals on the application of Jamila.

    SHO Khangarh Police Station Kamal Mustafa told The Express Tribune that three teams have been constituted to arrest the accused.
    The arrested men, talking to The Express Tribune, denied the marriage proposal story and said that they were told that the women had entered the house to rob them, so they decided to punish them.

    Representative of Human Rights Commission in Muzaffargarh, Amjad Ali Amjad, demanded that the accused should be prosecuted in an anti-terrorism court and sections of terrorism should be added in the FIR. He added that the civil society and other political leaders should also join them in protests against the incident.

    Sub Inspector Chaudhry Ghulam Rasool told The Express Tribune that the incident involved a property dispute instead of a marriage proposal. He added that Pakistan Peoples Party’s (PPP) local leader Amir Karamat gave protection to the women after the incident and brought them to the police station for legal activity.


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    Women paraded naked in Pakistan - YouTube

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    • #3
      LOl---We Muslims talking of equality and complaining about xenophobia and racism. This poor family went to the house of this feudal family for the hand of one of their daughters in marriage. And the feudal family belonging to the Arayain biradari got so infuriated with what these poor people dare to do that they humiliated them in public.

      They called these poor people "Baloch" and "nai" i.e., barbars not worthy of the social status of Arayian.
      Last edited by Toramana; 08-08-2012, 05:44 PM.

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      • #4
        What he (accused) say? "They are nai, kami, chor" ?
        What is nai? Any one?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by torkham View Post
          What he (accused) say? "They are nai, kami, chor" ?
          What is nai? Any one?
          Nai means barber, chor means thief, and kami a person who is considered low in the society.

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          • #6
            who are Arayian are they Punjabis? I have never heard of them.
            God what is worng whith some peopel. Porkystan is the worst.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Friend View Post
              Nai means barber, chor means thief, and kami a person who is considered low in the society.
              thanks. sorry bad phrased question. nai I know is salmani. i didn't get the context of nai(salmani) and chor (theif). kami (low caste than their's) is the link. Thanks friend.

              this is jahaliya!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by torkham View Post
                thanks. sorry bad phrased question. nai I know is salmani. i didn't get the context of nai(salmani) and chor (theif). kami (low caste than their's) is the link. Thanks friend.

                this is jahaliya!
                Actually, Arayain is a biradari (equivalent of a tribe in Pashtun but somewhat loose unit) of Punjab which General Zia-ul-Haq belonged to. Nayan or Nayi means a barbar. Nayan have low social status in the society where Arayain have good social status. So Nayan asking for a Arayain girl hand would be an insult to Arayian. Probably, these Nayan are Baloch origin.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by torkham View Post
                  thanks. sorry bad phrased question. nai I know is salmani. i didn't get the context of nai(salmani) and chor (theif). kami (low caste than their's) is the link. Thanks friend.

                  this is jahaliya!
                  True and such incidents are very common in Punjab and sindh unfortunately. Actually these people are not aware of the teachings of Islam. They are still like living in stone age feudal system.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Friend View Post
                    True and such incidents are very common in Punjab and sindh unfortunately. Actually these people are not aware of the teachings of Islam. They are still like living in stone age feudal system.
                    These discrimination is also common in Pukhtunkhwa especially in areas with more agricultural affluence. For example, in Swat it exists in one of the worst forms (may be not that as in Punjab and Sindh though). The Khans of Swat are a brutal lot to the core except a few noble people among them.

                    There is this family of Jorai Khanan to which Shujat Ali Khan family belongs to who recently joined Imran Khan's PTI. A poor man from the village of Shujat Ali Khan who had become affluent due to job in Dubai and had bought himself a car was beaten by Shujat Ali Khan's son (probably Jamal Nasir) because the poor guy wouldn't say salam when he would drive his car beside the Hujra of Shujat Ali Khan.

                    But let me say, in Pukhtunkhwa things like humiliating women would probably never happen.
                    Last edited by Toramana; 08-08-2012, 07:23 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      These incidents are also common in Pukhtunkhwa especially in areas with more agricultural affluence. For example, in Swat it exists in one of the worst forms (may be not that as in Punjab and Sindh though). The Khans of Swat are a brutal lot to the core except a few noble people among them.

                      There is this family of Jorai Khanan to which Shujat Ali Khan family belongs to who recently joined Imran Khan's PTI. A poor man of Shujat Ali Khan who had become affluent due to job in Dubai and had bought himself a car was beaten by the son of Shujat Ali Khan's son (probably Jamal Nasir) because the poor guy wouldn't pay salams when he would drive his car beside the Hujra of Shujat Ali Khan.
                      Well Shujat Ali Khan family especially his father Khan Bahadar was famous for brutality in his time but the time has changed now. Jamal Nasir is a two feet guy has now power any more. What you are talking about is 40 years back.
                      In Punjab and sindh if you see humiliation of women and children is its peak and its very common there.
                      Alhamdulillah we Pashtuns have high regard and respect for women and children.

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                      • #12
                        what about the other khanzir who cut his wife's nose . . . she appears a lot on google searches next to sharbat gula (the girl with the bright green eyes). it happens, but not like panjab/sindh.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Friend View Post
                          Well Shujat Ali Khan family especially his father Khan Bahadar was famous for brutality in his time but the time has changed now. Jamal Nasir is a two feet guy has now power any more. What you are talking about is 40 years back.
                          In Punjab and sindh if you see humiliation of women and children is its peak and its very common there.
                          Alhamdulillah we Pashtuns have high regard and respect for women and children.
                          No--not 40 years back. This happened in late 1990s or early 2000s when I was visiting Matta-Khwaza Khela. The mental retarded-ness and extreme backwardness of some of the khans makes you nauseate. One of the most sick and sadist minded people I have even seen.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by torkham View Post
                            what about the other khanzir who cut his wife's nose . . . she appears a lot on google searches next to sharbat gula (the girl with the bright green eyes). it happens, but not like panjab/sindh.
                            I think public humuliation of someone especially women will not be tolerated in Pashtun society (alas it occurred under Taleban's repressive rule). Any person doing so will run the risk of being punished or expelled from the village or the alaqa by Pashtuns.

                            But where Pashtun society is more agrarian, social stratification is starkly present with the landed gentry considered the elite and the artisan classes the commoners.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                              No--not 40 years back. This happened in late 1990s or early 2000s when I was visiting Matta-Khwaza Khela. The mental retarded-ness and extreme backwardness of some of the khans makes you nauseate. One of the most sick and sadist minded people I have even seen.
                              If you originally belong to swat and have resided there for years and know the mindset of the two people of swat that you are not.
                              The river swat divides the people of swat. The people living on the right side of the river I mean from Barikot to Mingora, khwazakhela to Kalam are considered to be very Nobel, humble, descent and gentle people. The people living on the other side of the river from Kabal, matta, to sakhra are considered to be rascal type, ill mannered, anti social people.
                              We people don't establish our relations with them because we don't consider them as good people no matter how big family they are from.
                              The reason for this mentality is that they have been under the feudal and khanism system and they have been oppressed for decades.
                              But again I would say that time has changed now and changing. Education, globalization and Islamic teachings have changed the minds of the people.

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