Yak Sawaal (One Question)

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

Suppose someone who believes in God and wants to do good at heart but can't help doing bad things because that is his nature; he is a hypocrite sometimes.
He isn't compatible with Islam, i.e. he keeps breaking rules and doing haraam things but nonetheless, he truly believes.
This man who has never fasted in his life, never prays formally, is always ritually impure, is arrogant, selfish and self-centered; unable to care for others, drinks on occaision (though avoids it as much as he can), steals, lies, cheats, commits adultery, does not respect anyone, is incapable of love and emotion and uses words from the Qur`an to suit his own preference.
He is not a clean man and has committed many crimes ranging from peddling drugs to kidnapping, despite young age.
He is aware of his actions and knows that he will be held accountable for them but does not care, as he is only interested in the present.
Despite all he does, he has an undying belief in God and does not want to leave Islam, even though he thinks it is better to do so than to tarnish the name of Islam with his actions.

Now, my question is:

Should this man be removed from the fold of Islam, resulting in his being dubbed an apostate and a subsequent death penalty?
(You are accountable for killing him in this case since you labelled him "kharej-az-din"; a foreigner to Islam.)

OR

Should he be accepted for who he is as Allah has made him too? (Think carefully)

Remember that this man may one day be of great use to the Muslim nation as he is a man of many talents.

There is a poll attatched with 3 choices. Choose wisely and then explain your stance.


Manana.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I voted for "Let him be" because of two reasons,

1) Allah has made him this way, maybe it is his destiny.

2) He may benefit the Ummah, there is an equal chance of him doing good for Islam.

[tor_khan]

You have limited choices, and for one thing, I don't vote in these polls.

One can knowingly be a 'fallen' Muslim and still have a 'strong' sense of belief. One can boast about their shortcomings in public as if in doing so they are somehow redeeming themselves of a worse punishment, but the irony is that secularism - where people go about minding their own business - protects; whereas in a theocracy governed by shariah, that person would either be miserable or they'd soon be caught out.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

You have limited choices, and for one thing, I don't vote in these polls.

One can knowingly be a 'fallen' Muslim and still have a 'strong' sense of belief. One can boast about their shortcomings in public as if in doing so they are somehow redeeming themselves of a worse punishment, but the irony is that secularism - where people go about minding their own business - protects; whereas in a theocracy governed by shariah, that person would either be miserable or they'd soon be caught out.

My question only has two answers, so therefore 3 choices suffice.

Could you tell me who other two voters were, please.
It doesn't display their usernames like it should.

This person is not yet another fallen Muslim, he has a twisted sense of reason and does only that what he wants, regardless of consequences. He is not a Muslim for the sake of it, he became Muslim after much thinking and looking at many religions. It is just not in his nature to follow rules. He would die for Islam but at the same time, he would kill for any reason. He does not care. He favors Shari`ah, but lives in a secular society and when told of what would happen to him in a theocracy, he is willing to accept it because he does not fear the fruit of his actions.

[Khostai]

Suppose someone who believes in God and wants to do good at heart but can't help doing bad things because that is his nature; he is a hypocrite sometimes.
He isn't compatible with Islam, i.e. he keeps breaking rules and doing haraam things but nonetheless, he truly believes.
This man who has never fasted in his life, never prays formally, is always ritually impure, is arrogant, selfish and self-centered; unable to care for others, drinks on occaision (though avoids it as much as he can), steals, lies, cheats, commits adultery, does not respect anyone, is incapable of love and emotion and uses words from the Qur`an to suit his own preference.
He is not a clean man and has committed many crimes ranging from peddling drugs to kidnapping, despite young age.
He is aware of his actions and knows that he will be held accountable for them but does not care, as he is only interested in the present.
Despite all he does, he has an undying belief in God and does not want to leave Islam, even though he thinks it is better to do so than to tarnish the name of Islam with his actions.

Now, my question is:

Should this man be removed from the fold of Islam, resulting in his being dubbed an apostate and a subsequent death penalty?
(You are accountable for killing him in this case since you labelled him "kharej-az-din"; a foreigner to Islam.)

OR

Should he be accepted for who he is as Allah has made him too? (Think carefully)

Remember that this man may one day be of great use to the Muslim nation as he is a man of many talents.

There is a poll attatched with 3 choices. Choose wisely and then explain your stance.


Manana.

So this guy is you LOL
Yes you should just comite suicide, you would do your comunity a favor.
do it, do it, do it. wuhahahahaha

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

So this guy is you LOL
Yes you should just comite suicide, you would do your comunity a favor.
do it, do it, do it. wuhahahahaha

This person is fictional. Part of what he does may have been inspired by me.

Why kill myself? I am not sad, I am probably the happiest person you've seen.

I am happy and comfortable in every single thing that relates to me and I have more love and knowledge of self than anyone else.
I believe this makes you and EmbarassingAfghan jealous.

[Khostai]

This person is fictional. Part of what he does may have been inspired by me.

Why kill myself? I am not sad, I am probably the happiest person you've seen.

I am happy and comfortable in every single thing that relates to me and I have more love and knowledge of self than anyone else.
I believe this makes you and EmbarassingAfghan jealous.

LOL, pleas buy some anti-depresivia pills in pharmacy then.
Its not inspired but is totaly you.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I voted banish you, ....the Qur'an says that Islam is "Deen Al Fitrah" which means that it claims to be the "Path of Nature" that is what Islam considers itself to be the Natural State, thus your behavior cannot be your nature according to Islam you're just making excuses. Thus you should be banished

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

LOL, pleas buy some anti-depresivia pills in pharmacy then.
Its not inspired but is totaly you.

Speak English, moron.
This isn't whatever European country you live in.

There is no "me"; I am three people.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I voted banish you, ....the Qur'an says that Islam is "Deen Al Fitrah" which means that it claims to be the "Path of Nature" that is what Islam considers itself to be the Natural State, thus your behavior cannot be your nature according to Islam you're just making excuses. Thus you should be banished

Not "my" behaviour but I understand what you mean.

[sunni]

I voted, Let him be (This might cause Islam some damage due to his unpredictable nature).

he should know NO one is perfect and everyone does wrongs but he should reject and do istghfar so god forgive him! and if he did it again he shoud do istghfar again, he should be truthful and should do it with his heart! sometimes he will feel he is munafiq and just should stop claiming be good and muslim but thats the shaitan trying to make you feel guilty wrongly and to leave islam....yeah he should feel guilty and do istghfar but never think of leaving islam even if he did zina or whatever.

[Black Pakistani]

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