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  • Originally posted by کیش View Post
    God is a tester. Watching how his slaves act and react to situations. If they follow his words, or if they try to find meanings to what they read, and compare with what they see with their eyes.
    THE THING I FIND AMAZING THOUGH, IS THAT WITH THIS GINORMOUS MULTIDIMENTIONAL UNIVERSE WITHIN UNIVERSE WITHIN UNIVERSE, AD INFINITUM, MERE WEE HUMAN BEANS THINK THAT THEY ARE SO DAMNED IMPORTANT. THAT EVERY THOUGHT THEY BOTHER TO HAVE THAT GOD IS ONTO IT. SURELY THERE ARE MUCH MORE INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT THINGS FOR A CREATOR OF SUCH AN AMAZING REALITY, TO BE DOING.

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    • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
      In these times, even my cousin's Pakistani ex did.

      But its sort of like a cultural practice amongst Persians.
      same with Arabs these days, go to Lebanon and Egypt and see how many women dye their hair blond. It's the post colonial inferiority complex which grips the middle east.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • Originally posted by کیش View Post
        look how chalak you are by putting different words to my statements.
        so why would God try to deliberately mislead people make nature seem one way but actually say something else?
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
          They way people like Kais portray Allah, makes him seem like this guy who likes playing mind games with people just to torment them.

          This is why Mutaziliyeen took a different approach; Because No Just Being would do that.
          Your second paragraph doesn't make sense. "No just being would do that." No just being would test his creation? By your train of logic, "no just being" would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of their homosexual behaviors. Or the the people of prophet Shoaib (as) for Usury and other practices.

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          • Originally posted by faye View Post
            THE THING I FIND AMAZING THOUGH, IS THAT WITH THIS GINORMOUS MULTIDIMENTIONAL UNIVERSE WITHIN UNIVERSE WITHIN UNIVERSE, AD INFINITUM, MERE WEE HUMAN BEANS THINK THAT THEY ARE SO DAMNED IMPORTANT. THAT EVERY THOUGHT THEY BOTHER TO HAVE THAT GOD IS ONTO IT. SURELY THERE ARE MUCH MORE INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT THINGS FOR A CREATOR OF SUCH AN AMAZING REALITY, TO BE DOING.
            All-Mighty has two angels assigned to each human to record his/her behaviors. The records will be judged fairly in the Day of Judgement :-)

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            • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              same with Arabs these days, go to Lebanon and Egypt and see how many women dye their hair blond. It's the post colonial inferiority complex which grips the middle east.
              Oh those Arabs. Yeah they do that.

              "White Arabs", especially Lebanese are said to borrow heavily from Persians.

              I meant the Gulf ones who take more pride in Arab nationalism.
              Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 07-18-2012, 01:38 AM.
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              • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                Just as a reminder to Darius on why he should have some humility
                I agree with you Dariush; .....Al-Arab is a piece of trash Arab-Nationalist dirt bag, who tries to hide his inflated Arab ego by acting like he's a pious Muslim.
                BUT that doesn't mean you should do the same and act just like him with big ego.
                ALLOW me to humble you.
                SUCH LACK OF PRIDE AND HUMILITY, REVO. BLESS YOU CHILD.

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                • Originally posted by faye View Post
                  SUCH LACK OF PRIDE AND HUMILITY, REVO. BLESS YOU CHILD.
                  Now is a time to find deeper meaning in what I wrote in my poem.

                  Also, bless me.
                  Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                  Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                  • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    so why would God try to deliberately mislead people make nature seem one way but actually say something else?
                    Why would God say Adam was created from "clay," if he was supposedly evolved? Wouldn't mentioning evolution a thousands of years before "science" hypothesized it make everybody easily submit to the lord. No questions asked?

                    The lord works in mysterious ways.

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                    • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                      Oh those Arabs. Yeah they do that.

                      "White Arabs", especially Lebanese are said to borrow heavily from Persians.

                      I meant the Gulf ones who have more pribe in Arabism.
                      Gulf Arabs are the worst people who mistreat Afghans and other minorities and even poor Yemenis and Omanis.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        Why would God say Adam was created from "clay," if he was supposedly evolved? Wouldn't mentioning evolution a thousands of years before "science" hypothesized it make everybody easily submit to the lord. No questions asked?

                        The lord works in mysterious ways.


                        yeah good question; If God made man out of clay wouldn't we see the properties of clay in humans, but yet we don't and see the properties of organisms that evolved?

                        To say the Lord "works in Mysterious" ways is just an ambiguous cover up for the inconsistencies in the literalist argument; But sinc it is ambiguous; we can use that same statement to me that God uses the mystery of metaphor to describe evolution.

                        It backfires against literalists.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          Gulf Arabs are the worst people who mistreat Afghans and other minorities and even poor Yemenis and Omanis.
                          They do that becuase they're stuck up and rich.

                          They take the utmost pride in being Arabs, so they would never dye their hair blonde.
                          Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                          Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                          • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                            Arabs are far better than you.

                            Atleast they have made profits from their oil and their women don't dye their hair blonde.
                            Yea instead their woman sleep under legs of 1000 thousands american and british troops that are statition there...profit for oil...god bless camel riding Arabs. lol

                            http://www.waleg.com/archives/002194.html

                            An Arab princess runing away with an american soilder.


                            (I do not care about wt a girl do…specially her private life…marry an American or African or date…I don’t care...I’m just mind F you stinky paki for as your comment about coloring hair suggest all the wt matters for you sexually frustrated folks are the thing between a women legs--in order word how to oppressed a woman---how to control them.)

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                            • Originally posted by Daruish View Post
                              Yea instead their woman sleep under legs of 1000 thousands american and british troops that are statition there...profit for oil...god bless camel riding Arabs. lol

                              http://www.waleg.com/archives/002194.html

                              An Arab princess runing away with an american soilder.


                              (I do not care about wt a girl do…specially her private life…marry an American or African or date…I don’t care...I’m just mind F you stinky paki for as your comment about coloring hair suggest all the wt matters for you sexually frustrated folks are the thing between a women legs--in order word how to oppressed a woman---how to control them.)
                              You are jealous of Arabs, not me.

                              And you fail to make me care in any way.
                              Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                              Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                              • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                                They do that becuase they're stuck up and rich.

                                They take the utmost pride in being Arabs, so they would never dye their hair blonde.
                                Not true

                                Dina Al Sabah is Kuwaiti and dies her hair blond
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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