The Mu'tazilah, Founders of the Islamic Golden Age

[khushal]

Do Mutazilah believe Adam was created by clay, or have they reasoned to a hypothesis that says evolution?

evolution, they beleive adam was the first human that evolved.

[khushal]

Actually it could be argued that people that people who have weak faith in God avoid logic and reason to connect to God, because they're afraid that logic will kill their faith. So rather than seeking the truth, they just attach themselves to their blind attachment to some idea they made up in their heads instead of God "himself".

one could say that about you since you are avoiding the questions. Have I weakened your faith in the mutazalahs way of thinking.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

This is not really an answer. answer it like a man not a coward.
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If the dimwits are smart enough to get guns, why cant you super smart guys figure out how to get them.

It answers your question of why they couldn't prevent them. That is a real roadblock; just because you can't cope with the answer, just says you're biased and looking for an answer that suits your agenda.

You don't have to be "smart" to get guns, even Americans can get guns and the Taliban couldnt stop them from invading a Muslim despite being kufar does that mean Kufr is better than Islam? Not at all, similarly Your argument demonstrates nothing against Logic and Reason.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

one could say that about you since you are avoiding the questions. Have I weakened your faith in the mutazalahs way of thinking.

That's irrelevant to Kais's statement though, but you're wrong; in Mutazlah we don't have "faith" in our thinking, we are intellectually convinced. That hasn't been shook, as far as I am concerned I answered your question; I'm just not giving you the answer you're looking for. That doesn't make me unsure, it makes you unsure of your position.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Do Mutazilah believe Adam was created by clay, or have they reasoned to a hypothesis that says evolution?

Mutazilah believe what is more obvious by evidence; modern evidence shows we evolved, which means the Qur'an must be consistent with nature and thus Qur'an must be actually describing evolution.

[faye]

that was directed at faye, she has a sense of humor that I like, and I like her wit...

what more proof could one need to prove khushals superior intelligence?

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

what more proof could one need to prove khushals superior intelligence?

I want people to praise me.

[کیش]

evolution, they beleive adam was the first human that evolved.

The Quran doesn't say that. It seems they reasoning themselves to apostasy. They are biting the apple which God ordered not to be eaten. Tempted by the snake.

[faye]

oh, we do

[RevolutionThroughReason]

The Quran doesn't say that. It seems they reasoning themselves to apostasy. They are biting the apple which God ordered not to be eaten. Tempted by the snake.

If that was true; why did God give evidence which is contrary to how corrupted Mullahs interpret the Qur'an?

[کیش]

If that was true; why did God give evidence which is contrary to how corrupted Mullahs interpret the Qur'an?

Do you belief in the Quran, or a hypothesis?

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

Revo, do you believe in Yakub the Scientist?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Do you belief in the Quran, or a hypothesis?

I believe in what God reveals, and if God created nature wouldn't mean that whatever is in the Qur'an is consistent with nature? Why does nature show evidence that would mean the parts you take literally would have to be a metaphor for evolution?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Revo, do you believe in Yakub the Scientist?

I don't even know who that is do you mean Prophet Ya'qoub (a.s.)?

[کیش]

I believe in what God reveals, and if God created nature wouldn't mean that whatever is in the Qur'an is consistent with nature? Why does nature show evidence that would mean the parts you take literally would have to be a metaphor for evolution?

Dont around the question. Do you belief in Quran being the the message from god to humanity, or do you belief in science, a hypothesis?

By your answer you don't belief in the Quran.