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  • #16
    Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
    If i find some time,he can say au revoir to his youtube account inshaAllah,

    i will take publicly responsibility taking down/getting access to his ytb account.

    Talk about freedom of speech. This guy will have my account hacked for what, if what I say was false and lies, he would ignore it, the same way I ignore people who claim to see goblins living under their local bridge.

    Firstly, I made the video on the basis that Islamic law can be reformed the same way Judeo-Christians have, through rationality and intellect.

    Most of the points I spoke of are true and the reason why Afghanistan and the Pashtun region is so backwards.

    I never insulted anyone and I even stated Muslims have the potential to reform their faith to stop it falling into the hands of Islamists and people with a sectarian nature.

    Dear Resistance

    The problem is many people dont speak up because they are threatened and killed if they ever do, thats why the Muslim world is what it is, a land barren of intellectulity and full of religous bigots.

    Look at Afghanistan2010 as an example and compare him with me, I support female education, the removal of the burqa, the upbringing on the basis that both genders are equal, while he supports suicide bombings on ANP jalsas, he supports beheading women and publically lashing people in the name of Talibanisation.

    If you want to follow Afghanistan2010 example a bully who emotional blackmails people and threatens to have their freedom of speech banned while he himself is living in a Western country insulting their value of free speech, then go ahead.

    Dear Faye

    I am a 5ft 11, weighing 105 kg, power lifter, who has won many competitions in Kyo shinkai Karate back in my teens and who has a beautiful aim with the rifle too, I am not scared from anyone, I will stand up to my beliefs and views no matter what.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post

      Look at Afghanistan2010 as an example and compare him with me, I support female education, the removal of the burqa, the upbringing on the basis that both genders are equal, while he supports suicide bombings on ANP jalsas, he supports beheading women and publically lashing people in the name of Talibanisation.

      If you want to follow Afghanistan2010 example a bully who emotional blackmails people and threatens to have their freedom of speech banned while he himself is living in a Western country insulting their value of free speech, then go ahead.
      There is a famous quotation it says :

      The one who does not listen,must feel.
      Give me a single post of mine,which is against female education...
      I do not want force women either to remove or to wear burqa,but they should be aware of the rulings that are basis for muslim women.
      But you do force women to remove it,are you not the same like those who force women to wear it.

      Im not against freedom of speech,but against mockery.Everything should have its borders.


      beheading women ? what are you talking about , you smoking ?
      Last edited by Afghanistan2010; 01-09-2012, 07:10 AM.
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #18
        LOOL im enchanted cuz of ur smile.<3

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        • #19
          Why is everyone so angry at him, he just expressed his opinion, is it so hard to belive, that in this world are peopel who don't like Sharia or any religion law to dictate them how to live. There are many like Amir in Afghanistan, the majority is just quiet becuase they are afraid, seeing peopel heads rolling on the ground, publicaly shootings in the head, stoned to death or seeing someones hands cut off, don't really makes a good impression of Sharia. so get over yourself.

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          • #20
            soldat amir , what is the difference between let us say al arab and you ?

            both of you fails to see political problems and their causes , and instead both of you

            try like little kids to convince people thats about religion .

            which it is clearly not .

            yes religion is abused by alot of people to make claims but is it the fault of the religion ?or of the people


            besides who you are addressing ? you are talking english would you dare to speak so in pashtunistan ? or afghanistan ?

            or even at home with your parents ? i guess no .


            you sound much more to me like the angress , who not only support the ones which they claim to fight (see lybia see syria ) but you make yourself look like one of this stupid islamophobs . sorry to tell you , you are brainwashed .

            and as mentioned ,you should be carefull , its one thing to have such wrong toughts , and its another thing to express them public on the net .

            there are alot of stupid people who may not harm you personally , but who may some one which you know .


            if you decided not be a muslim because you say that you can not belive in allah , and you reject quran and sunnah , thats okay , no one will kill you or harm you .

            but if you start to make claims and activly try to "convert" people to atheism , and mock islam , or start to talk bs , its a totally different thing .

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            • #21
              Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
              soldat amir , what is the difference between let us say al arab and you ?

              both of you fails to see political problems and their causes , and instead both of you

              try like little kids to convince people thats about religion .

              which it is clearly not .

              yes religion is abused by alot of people to make claims but is it the fault of the religion ?or of the people


              besides who you are addressing ? you are talking english would you dare to speak so in pashtunistan ? or afghanistan ?

              or even at home with your parents ? i guess no .


              you sound much more to me like the angress , who not only support the ones which they claim to fight (see lybia see syria ) but you make yourself look like one of this stupid islamophobs . sorry to tell you , you are brainwashed .

              and as mentioned ,you should be carefull , its one thing to have such wrong toughts , and its another thing to express them public on the net .

              there are alot of stupid people who may not harm you personally , but who may some one which you know .


              if you decided not be a muslim because you say that you can not belive in allah , and you reject quran and sunnah , thats okay , no one will kill you or harm you .

              but if you start to make claims and activly try to "convert" people to atheism , and mock islam , or start to talk bs , its a totally different thing .
              No offence

              But please watch the final bit of the video

              I said Muslims have the potential to reform Islam for their own betterment.

              Where did I say Muslims should leave Islam? I have never stated this nor encourage this, but I defend the right of Muslims to demand change.

              Nothing wrong with that.

              I am not saying Muslims should be slaves of the West unlike Al Arab who stated we should be his future subjects.

              Also zma vroara.....................What I mentioned has been accepted by most Islamic schools of thought, now if we dont address these immoral methods of punishing people then how will we progress.

              I oppose all forms of discrimination including Sharia and Islamophobia.

              Wait and see, I will make a video mocking those Islamophobes who Insult Muslims but support another extreme of their own.

              I am not brainwashed I have well versed on this topic and have done years of reading and I have come to the conclusion that Sharia is not for me or anyone else.

              Afghanistan started to break out of these taboos but returned to its backwardness due to it.

              Like for example Amir Rehman gave his troops the pleasures of keeping Hazara women as captives while King Amanullah abolished slavery.

              That is the difference. I am no different than King Amanullah Khan.

              I want us as Afghans to modernise and progress.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                There is a famous quotation it says :

                Give me a single post of mine,which is against female education...
                I do not want force women either to remove or to wear burqa,but they should be aware of the rulings that are basis for muslim women.
                But you do force women to remove it,are you not the same like those who force women to wear it.

                Im not against freedom of speech,but against mockery.Everything should have its borders.


                beheading women ? what are you talking about , you smoking ?
                Stop buttering dude. You changed your outlook on things you become influenced by me or summut.

                Anyone who supports the Taliban or the TTP are directly supporting their policies, if you are that naive into thinking some of us are so stupid to sit there and believe that you support freedom of speech and women to wear what ever they wanted to under your version of a ideal Islamic state.

                Secondly you said

                "but they should be aware of the rulings that are basis for muslim women."

                This is saying quite clearly that if women dont follow these rulings which are written by men then what will happen? they would be lashed or thrown into prison for moral crimes.

                You and I know what that means dont you?

                What are these rules? burqa, covering, half of a mans say, to stay in the kitchen etc...please be more in detail.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AdamYousafzai
                  When you smiled at the end i threw my laptop against the wall in fear
                  OMG ahahahahahahhaahhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahaha that made my day ^.^
                  And they say
                  She's in the Class A Team
                  Stuck in her daydream
                  Been this way since 18
                  But lately her face seems
                  Slowly sinking, wasting
                  Crumbling like pastrie

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                  • #24
                    If Soldat was alive at the time when the British tried invading Afghanistan - he'd be one of them Pashtun slave shoe cleaners for the British King's Regiment or something (self volunteered ofcourse)
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                    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                    Originally posted by Karachi
                    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                    • #25
                      Soldat_Amir, I admire your honesty and courage for speaking your behind. Those who insult you are cowards. Ofcourse I don't agree with your opinions but I will defend your right to speak your mind. I think your arguments are poorly constructed and seem much more like a rant rather than a cohesive argument against the laws of Islam. Your knowledge of Islam seems to come from either outside sources or your personal bad experiences at the hands of backward and ignorant mullahs back home. Add to this the current villification of Islam and there you have sources which shape your opinion. ofcourse this is just my opinion and could be wide off the mark. I think you will have greater success if you properly studied Islam and tried to reform it as an insider rather than be a secular/athesit outsider which will put you at a great disadvantage. Look at the example of pir rokhan, he was a great man and built his reputation by working side by side with the local people and being involved with them and building a reputation and trustworthiness in the community. Pashtuns, never accept outsidersto dictate to them how to live, it can be tried at gun point but we can see from history how such methods fail. So If your aim to reform Islamic laws and make the conditions of the people than be a better muslim or at least pretend to be and not an outsider trying to look in. You will have greater success. Look at how a certain brand of Islam has infiltrated the pashtun heartland, learn fromthem. If they can infiltrate to make the youth think like them,why can't you? You have to work hard for it building your reputation over the years. With such videos you are doing harm to your self and your future ambitions. You are too sincere and not cunning enough.
                      Last edited by badmash_khel; 01-09-2012, 12:08 PM.

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                      • #26
                        ^ i thanked your post but then read your last sentance again and removed it
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                        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                        Originally posted by Karachi
                        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                        • #27
                          ^
                          Whats wrong with my last sentence?

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                          • #28
                            two words which i didnt agree with in the context you put it in - sincere and cunning. some people are better at judging character than others. each to their own.
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                            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                            Originally posted by Karachi
                            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                            • #29
                              ^
                              I gave him honest advice. we can agree to disagree.

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                              • #30
                                There is no Sharia in Islam. can anybody prove where the term Sharia is used in the original sources of Islam?This is later day invention to use Sharia in Islamic perspective.

                                There are some legal injunctions in the holy Quran but those are either metaphorical as cutting hands of a thief is not physical amputation but figuratively stopping a thief from committing theft or contextual as some injunctions for particular situations at the time of the prophet.

                                Islam is just a religion like any other religion with its own system of beliefs, modes of worship and ethics.Muslims are Muslims only religiously but never culturally, politically, socially , legally or economically.

                                Laws of evidence, dress code for women etc have nothing to do with Islam.The solution is very simple that make Islam a religion like Christianity and thus by having secularism you save both religion and non religion as politics, law or culture.

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