Da qabr azab

[AnGaaR]

Salamoona everyone

A woman in her 55 to 60 yrs old age lives here in california
wherever she goes she tells other women and men that there is no Azab in qabr..

She totally denies the azabei qabr because she says its not mentioned in quran.
Many of us told her about ahadith and other books but she says i need a complete and true proof.. she has already misleaded many poor women (specially old women)

I am searching to collect the complete azabei qabr details and show her..


so can u guys help me too?

p.s its not mentioned in quran thats y i failed to answer her in the past

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The punishment of the grave is not something that our Prophet (saw) has taught us. So, this lady is not misleading anyone.

[Muslimah]

Azab in qabr..

whats that? explain in english maybe i can help

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

We get them from ahadith; however, those ahadith cannot be taken literal, they are metaphoric.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Azab in qabr..

whats that? explain in english maybe i can help

Torment of the grave.

[AnGaaR]

So it means there is no torment of the grave?

[Mujib]

Belief in the punishment in the grave is part of the `aqida of Muslims. It is proven by many verses in the Qur'an and many hadiths. Allah Most High says:

In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established: "Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!" (40:46)

Their being brought in front of the fire morning and evening is the punishment in the grave.

Islamic tenets of faith are enumerated in the `Aqida Tahawiyya (everyone should read and understand it), which states:

80. We believe in the punishment in the grave for those who deserve it, and in the questioning in the grave by Munkar and Nakir about one's Lord, one's religion and one's prophet, as has come down in ahadith from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and in reports from the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all.

81. The grave is either one of the meadows of the Garden or one of the pits of the Fire. (`Aqida Tahawiyya)

[Azmatullah]

I have always thought it does exist.

[Azmatullah]

It was narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“When a person is placed in his grave and his companions leave him, and he can no longer hear the sound of their sandals (footsteps), two angels come to him and make him sit up, and they ask him, ‘What did you say about this man Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?’ He says, ‘I bear witness that he is the slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’ It is said, ‘Look at your place in Hell which Allaah has replaced for you with a place in Paradise.’” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “And he sees them both. But as for the kaafir or hypocrite, he says, ‘I do not know, I used to say what the people said.’ It is said, ‘You did not know and you did not follow those who knew.’ Then he is struck a blow with an iron hammer between his ears and he screams a scream which everything around him can hear apart from the two races (of mankind and the jinn).”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1222)

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

We get them from ahadith; however, those ahadith cannot be taken literal, they are metaphoric.

I fear for your Islam, as always you are too eager to cast off what others here say about basic concepts of Islam.

like you said here:

however, those ahadith cannot be taken literal

how did you come by that interpretation? is it what you feel or do you have any grounds for justification for what you said?


You see, this is extremely dangerous what you are doing, there is a corpus of Muslims who say one thing, and here you are PROJECTING something else.

As you might know, mention of the grave existence and the punishment there is detailed knowledge among many of us. I am not incriminating you here, so dont be angry, I am just saying, dont write everything you feel without some evidence for it or against it.

In the end, we here, are all on the same side, brothers in Islam and by blood as Afghans, so please dont simply counter argue out of anger to my post.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Can any of you guys post more info about Azab e Qabr or against it !!

I am really interested in this and I dont have enough info on it,

Thanx.

[AnGaaR]

If there was no azab in qabr then y would we be burried?
thats another question

I am sure there is azabei qabr caz there are alot of stories about azabei qabr.

Its said that the grave or ground will press you so that ur ribs will come out from other side of ur chest..

[Mujib]

Punishment of the Grave: Decisively Established

[AnGaaR]

Belief in the punishment in the grave is part of the `aqida of Muslims. It is proven by many verses in the Qur'an and many hadiths. Allah Most High says:

In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established: "Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!" (40:46)

Their being brought in front of the fire morning and evening is the punishment in the grave.

Islamic tenets of faith are enumerated in the `Aqida Tahawiyya (everyone should read and understand it), which states:

80. We believe in the punishment in the grave for those who deserve it, and in the questioning in the grave by Munkar and Nakir about one's Lord, one's religion and one's prophet, as has come down in ahadith from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and in reports from the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all.

81. The grave is either one of the meadows of the Garden or one of the pits of the Fire. (`Aqida Tahawiyya)

Got it.. thnk you brother

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Punishment of the Grave: Decisively Established

That was a very good post. Thank you.

In light of all such posts, I would now, like to know what Momin's thoughts about this topic are.

Thanx.