Will I go to Hell or not?

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamaludeen is demonstrating his great "honest neutrality" again, since he claims to be such a God-fearing person. I think we all understand his level of honesty before God.
Such a person cannot truly respect or fear God on the inside, when he behaves the way he does.

When Jamaludeen dies, and arrives in Jahannam, he will immediately demand from Shaitan, "Hey buddy! You have not convinced me why I should be here! WHERE IS THE PROOF???"
And Shaitan will stick a pitchfork in his a**, "There's your proof, man"

I encourage the religious folks in here to discuss the issue. Sanman is making accusations after accusations without proof and evidence, and now he claims that I will enter hell because I'm not a God-Fearing Person because I beat them both in a debate. The second paragraph is blasphemy as it tries to give the attribute of Allah swt to Satan..Isn't it Allah who is going to judge us in the judgement day?

toba aztaghfirullah

Now tell me, who is the God Fearing person and who is not. The sad thing is that ScimitarXEdge thanked that post of his. I really thought that ScimitarXEdge was a man of reason and would have an objective stance on the matter, but unfortunately he seems emotionally involved in the debate as he does not even realise what he is thanking since he is not in the right state of mind.

The reason I made a seperate issue of this, so they do not troll my other thread. You guys can read further on the matter in these two threads.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/cias-intervention-afghanistan-21693/

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/drones-civilian-deaths-new-york-times-21494/

thank you

[good]

Jamal you're waaaaaay too serious now!

[kakargirl]

Jamal wror Yes ALLAH SWT IS THE JUGDE not these people, they just can't take defeat.

[Alchemist]

First of all, you should completely ignore sanman. He is obviously a troll. And everything a troll does is specifically for getting the kind of response you have given. A troll's purpose in life is to be your purpose. A troll doesn't have anywhere to live so they want to live on your mind. Best way to make a troll suffer is to ignore the troll. And the less attention a troll eats the weaker it gets.

As for the dude with the phallic nick name you have to realize that he is a closet atheist but an open agnostic. He doesn't believe in an actual and physical hell or in a living and breathing and scheming devil. So when he read that paragraph he interpreted as a cartoon joke, like a "family guy" or "the simpons" type. He doesn't even believe that Jesus (pbuh) was born to a virgin, Maryam (pbuh). This dude is anything but "rational". He is more american than he likes to take credit for. And so he is as much a conformist as the next tom, **** or harry. Which is why this dude constantly needs to "thank" atheists and agnostics and other brainwashed patsies like himself. He is battle entrenched with the atheists because ...surprise, surprise, the atheists are the "rational" ones.

[sanman]

On the contrary, Alchemist. It's Jamaludeen was being a Proof-Troll ("Gimme Proof! Gimme Proof! But I'll offer no proof from my side!") and feigning neutrality.

If he's genuinely a God-fearing person, he'll recognize the ungodly nature of his own trolling games. But he isn't, so he doesn't.

[khushal]

sanman,
can you offer us evidence on your beleif that brezinski is going to neither heaven nor hell.

[sanman]

Khushal, can you offer me proof that your Pakistan isn't going to hell in a handbasket?
Actually, Pakistani leaders don't seem satisfied to merely go to hell, but they desperately want to bring hell on Earth.

[khushal]

pakistan is not mine. Im an Afghan.
its you who is a pakistani slave by promoting pakistans ideas that they are fighting foreign arabs in FATA by preventing a pashtun backlash against the pakistani state.

[MohannaD]

Assalamu Alaikum

Allah is the one who decides .


Brother I think you should've sent a pm to the actual member to sort things and solve the problem in sha'a Allah .

I don't see this topic as a good idea .

just an advice .

[Soldat_Amir]

Who gives a flying hell hoo is someone called you " not god fearing"

Stop the whining and moaning. Ive been called worse

"not pashtun" by a Poooki jamiet, then been called a "Secular flith, trash, munafiq, murtad and to top it up a Kaffir"

Nobody cares if you go hell or not, thats between you and your god.

Dont screem blasphemy we dont live in Pakistan!

[Soldat_Amir]

Jamaludeen, you are not a God-fearing person, because you don't argue honestly. How can a person who argues dishonestly fear God?

Even if by some error, you were to end up in Heaven, you will ask God for "proof" that the place is heaven.



"Hey! Hey!! Can someone answer me!! How do I know it's heaven! WHERE IS THE PROOF!!"

May Qari Qadri send you to hell you blasphemy!

Oh just the sarcassim and humor!

[JAMALUDEEN]

Who gives a flying hell hoo is someone called you " not god fearing"

Stop the whining and moaning. Ive been called worse

"not pashtun" by a Poooki jamiet, then been called a "Secular flith, trash, munafiq, murtad and to top it up a Kaffir"

Nobody cares if you go hell or not, thats between you and your god.

Dont screem blasphemy we dont live in Pakistan!

May Qari Qadri send you to hell you blasphemy!

Oh just the sarcassim and humor!

you have just committed an ad hominem fallacy and many other fallacies combined together into a fallacy bomb.

Just because you cannot defend yourself, doesn't mean others cannot defend themselves. You also always resort to sarcasm and cussing because you lack the ability to articulate your thoughts in a civil manner.

Its your fault that you let others walk over you. If you are not going to contribute something relating to the topic, then don't come here to vent your frustration

[JAMALUDEEN]

Assalamu Alaikum

Allah is the one who decides .


Brother I think you should've sent a pm to the actual member to sort things and solve the problem in sha'a Allah .

I don't see this topic as a good idea .

just an advice .

They did the deed in public, therefore the public has to decide, unfortunately.

[Nurzai]

Jamaludeen, likely you know answer to your own question. With absolutely no disrespect to you intended - this question is sad. A forum of this sort is no place to ask such questions. "The public" decide NOTHING. Allah decides all. Scripture instructs us again and again that in many aspects of life on this Earth, intent is everything. Only you and Allah know of your own intent in whatever the matter may be. And even though the concept of "intent" is not directly relative to your subject here, it is something to always keep in mind. You should use my general mode of operation. Do not give serious thought to infidels. Remember you are concerning yourself with the feelings of a rabidly pro American, pro Western ATHIEST. Do you concern yourself with how Bill Clinton feels about you and whether or not Mr. Clinton believes you are condemned to hell? Then why would you consider the feelings and views of one American infidel trolling this forum? You should frequent good Islamic forums and focus your time and energy in life towards other Muslims, your family and things that have true meaning NOT hollow words constructed by infidel propaganda artists who may or may not be on the payroll of Tel Aviv or Washington.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Jamaluddin is trolling and the disgusting and disgraceful thing is he's doing it t the expense of Muslim lives. Real lives are at stake here and he treats this like a joke