modern world and sharia?

[Karachi]

I have a question, if muslims are believers in the book of Allah(Quran) and the laws given in it, how come we are not striving to establish sharia law??? I know some are, but I think the problem is that many muslims themselves dont know what sharia is and are scared of it because of the bad image portrayed of the system.

The modern way of life which is (western) non muslim in every sense is against the sharia system. Yet most muslims in this world have fallen trap to the western way of life, thinking this is the right system. If you look deeply and think logically/critically, this western way of life is flawed and has so many problems. The biggest problem with the western system is that it takes you away from God. It corrupts the mind in every way and people are left confused. Islam is much simple and clear, you just have to believe in Allah by your heart and everything becomes clear about life. Those who dont believe in Allah and dont have Allah in their hearts probably can't understand what i am trying to say here.

[Karachi]

also i am not against everything in the western system, of course there are good things too. But my biggest problem is that it promotes disbelief and it promotes almost all the things against the system that Allah has provided

[emkhan]

Very right my brother... You know the purpose of sending us to this world to establish the system revealed by Allah. There is no other purpose of this very Ummah of the last prophet Muhammad peace be upon him but unfortunately people are not aware of this very important aspect. Most of the people are adopting materialistic secular way of life.
This is a very good topic you started brother... There is one scholar I know whose whole life was for striving for this very purpose... May Allah give jannat ul firdous...
If you have a chance please listen to him and you all will come to the know what is the purpose of Islam and what actually Islam is.

[IamDZJ]

because people confuse tradition for religion and come up with their own versions of what sharia is supposed to be and of course, as always everyone thinks their version is the correct one so follow that or help you God.
In the west, it's pretty much the same except for the help you God part. Less pressure on following sharia laws you dont necessarily believe in. Not that many religious bullies...

[emkhan]

Its not the confusion... Its all about ignorance and their tenderness to the secular materialistic world. There is nothing to be confused about the teachings of Islam.
Only mentally ill people point out small things.

[AFG21]

It's becuase there is any single country who have a sharia system and is good and progressive and rich. The bigist examples of sharia countrys are Saudie-Aarabie and Iran. YOu would say now ow they are rich en bla bla, I know but SA is only rich becuase they have oil and Iran have also oil. In Arabie women are not even allowed to drive a car. But live there is like leaving in a golden cage and also what about the punishments like stoning and beheading criminals or cuting hands. Its just to barbaric to do that, I don't understand how it is good to kill someone if he did something wrong. Aren't we the same as the murderer if we kill him?

[emkhan]

It's becuase there is any single country who have a sharia system and is good and progressive and rich. The bigist examples of sharia countrys are Saudie-Aarabie and Iran. YOu would say now ow they are rich en bla bla, I know but SA is only rich becuase they have oil and Iran have also oil. In Arabie women are not even allowed to drive a car. But live there is like leaving in a golden cage and also what about the punishments like stoning and beheading criminals or cuting hands. Its just to barbaric to do that, I don't understand how it is good to kill someone if he did something wrong. Aren't we the same as the murderer if we kill him?

How many people have you seen in Saudia Arabia with the cut hands and how many being beheaded?
Can you please give me some record of this or you just trolling ?

[Karachi]

the saudi system is not proper sharia, anyone who has lived there like me can tell this. The problem over there is that, nothing is implemented properly, i mean even in crimes for example south asians are treated much harshly then lets say a if a saudi does the same crime. So many south asians and africans are beheaded there without even having a proper trial. Its a joke there, they are not fair at all in following the system, any injustice like this can not be part of islam or sharia. saudi system is a mockery of islamic sharia actually

[Dreamer]

It's becuase there is any single country who have a sharia system and is good and progressive and rich. The bigist examples of sharia countrys are Saudie-Aarabie and Iran. YOu would say now ow they are rich en bla bla, I know but SA is only rich becuase they have oil and Iran have also oil. In Arabie women are not even allowed to drive a car. But live there is like leaving in a golden cage and also what about the punishments like stoning and beheading criminals or cuting hands. Its just to barbaric to do that, I don't understand how it is good to kill someone if he did something wrong. Aren't we the same as the murderer if we kill him?

correction... No country has sharia at present... only some aspects and even then interpretations of sharia

[tor_khan]

What is the Shariah ruling on "countries" as in modern national boundaries that are used as political/legal cut-off points for a state's legal reach?

Iran and Saudi both claim versions of the Shariah as do all the other smaller Gulf states. That just adds to the confusion and may begin to explain the refusal of some to put themselves 100% behind the idea of Shariah, when changing aspects of it later may be held to be criminal.

[Dreamer]

What is the Shariah ruling on "countries" as in modern national boundaries that are used as political/legal cut-off points for a state's legal reach?

Iran and Saudi both claim versions of the Shariah as do all the other smaller Gulf states. That just adds to the confusion and may begin to explain the refusal of some to put themselves 100% behind the idea of Shariah, when changing aspects of it later may be held to be criminal.

I suppose Sharia doesnt approve of countries.. just provinces... I always thought the quran had just 300 verses relating to laws etc ( I maybe wrong) Sharia would come from hadith which is in effect chinese whispers since most where recorded hundreds of years after the Prophet died... if this is the case Shia Shariah would be different anyhow from sunni shariah... though I am not an expert....

[AFG21]

Sharia is allowing it, so if it is allowed, do you really think that peopel are not gona use it.
And about SA here is an artical about it
Saudi Arabia's Beheading Culture - CBS News
If you want pictures I am not gona google that for you oke. I need my sleep.

[Badlun]

There is no concept of Sharia in Islam. Its only Arab innovation to manipulate the world to be arabized in the name of Sharia. can any one prove from any original source of Islam like Quran that any where the word or term Sharia is mentioned. Sharia has the implication that Islam is a system which guides you in all spheres of life like politics, economy, culture, society etc. But Islam is just a religion and spiritual system. Islam as religion was always in vogue but as a complete system never because it does not have any so called Sharia.
Religion is your beliefs, worship and morality and nothing beyond that.

The mere fact that Sharia was never promulgated and now no where is present is the biggest and crystal clear proof that this pseudo Sharia of Islam does not exist

[emkhan]

There is no concept of Sharia in Islam. Its only Arab innovation to manipulate the world to be arabized in the name of Sharia. can any one prove from any original source of Islam like Quran that any where the word or term Sharia is mentioned. Sharia has the implication that Islam is a system which guides you in all spheres of life like politics, economy, culture, society etc. But Islam is just a religion and spiritual system. Islam as religion was always in vogue but as a complete system never because it does not have any so called Sharia.
Religion is your beliefs, worship and morality and nothing beyond that.

The mere fact that Sharia was never promulgated and now no where is present is the biggest and crystal clear proof that this pseudo Sharia of Islam does not exist

I think you are a big ignorant about Islam.
The whole life of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon and the the four caliphs had a political, economic, social system based on the teachings of Quran and Hadith...

[Badlun]

First why only for 30 years in 1500 years? Why it was never and no where repeated. Second they had all these systems but as Arab politicians and leaders of that time. It does not mean that what those Arabs did at that time to rule the world become the religion of Islam. Otherwise having multiple wives, killing of Muslims and even caliphs , killing even the grandson of the prophet, ownership of slaves,the blood shed , the wars even between Hazrat Ayesha and Hazrat Ali etc all will become Islam or Sharia. All this was politics, power struggle, balance of power, real-politik ,economics and cultural domination of Arabs and had nothing to do with the religion of Islam.

The five pillars of Islam show just the religion and has nothing to do with politics, economy, culture or society.