Before Islam came to the Land of Pashtuns

[MazloomyarMaseed]

so you have run out insults as well


your making assumptions i haven't even told you what my stance on loy Afghanistan is, and the religious ones aren't against loy Afghanistan you made that up

tell me what would the roll of tajiks, hazaras, uzbeks and all the other ethnicities that live in afghanistan be

What Insults?

Of course the Relgious ones are against it, Come to Pakhtunkhwa and you will find many who oppose it.

Every Ethincity should have its own state, then you wont get problems of Nationalism would you?

Tajiks wont accept a Loy Afghanistan

Hazaras will feel threatened by an influx of Pashtuns as they already hate the Kochi people

Uzbeks are already on Pashtuns I.e Waziristan slaughtering Pashtuns for power and land.

They have no role, I know you are trying to say, if Loy Afghanistan is made by some Islamic justification then these people would support it, but lets me realistic, Punjabis are also Muslims, and they will oppose it with every Islamic justification, so what other option is left?

You and Iqilab, want to establish an economic hub for Arabs under the name of Khalifa, whereby you will allow Pashtuns to be slaves of Arabs. That is my view, its sad you cant see it that way.

[شمله ور خراساني]

What Insults?

Of course the Relgious ones are against it, Come to Pakhtunkhwa and you will find many who oppose it.

Every Ethincity should have its own state, then you wont get problems of Nationalism would you?

Tajiks wont accept a Loy Afghanistan

Hazaras will feel threatened by an influx of Pashtuns as they already hate the Kochi people

Uzbeks are already on Pashtuns I.e Waziristan slaughtering Pashtuns for power and land.

They have no role, I know you are trying to say, if Loy Afghanistan is made by some Islamic justification then these people would support it, but lets me realistic, Punjabis are also Muslims, and they will oppose it with every Islamic justification, so what other option is left?

You and Iqilab, want to establish an economic hub for Arabs under the name of Khalifa, whereby you will allow Pashtuns to be slaves of Arabs. That is my view, its sad you cant see it that way.

All advanced societies of the world unite upon mutual values and common interests. Poor and ignorant people want to divide themself further away from each other.

What is next? Karlani Pashtuns will demand a seperate Pashtunkhwa, Ghalji Pashtuns another and Abdali Pashtuns likewise.

This is insanity.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

All advanced societies of the world unite upon mutual values and common interests. Poor and ignorant people want to divide themself further away from each other.

What is next? Karlani Pashtuns will demand a seperate Pashtunkhwa, Ghalji Pashtuns another and Abdali Pashtuns likewise.

This is insanity.

Dear Sangar roara.

My and others aim is to Unite Pashtuns by name of Pashtun. Faith shouldnt be questioned upon our unity.

As i fear, that due to intolarance of the faithful sects around us, we may go deep into bloodshed again.

Please try to understand. I demand a Loy Afghanistan, but if this is no acheiveable, then a state for Pashtuns is good enough.

I oppose this Karlani/Israelite Myth, due to this Myth we are put into groups of named brothers etc and then into tribal sub clans etc.

Our Unity must be accomplished with a iron fist

[شمله ور خراساني]

Dear Sangar roara.

My and others aim is to Unite Pashtuns by name of Pashtun. Faith shouldnt be questioned upon our unity.

As i fear, that due to intolarance of the faithful sects around us, we may go deep into bloodshed again.

Please try to understand. I demand a Loy Afghanistan, but if this is no acheiveable, then a state for Pashtuns is good enough.

I oppose this Karlani/Israelite Myth, due to this Myth we are put into groups of named brothers etc and then into tribal sub clans etc.

Our Unity must be accomplished with a iron fist

So if you want Pashtuns to unite upon language and ethnicity, are you willing to unite with communists and atheists? With those Pashtuns who are working for America & Pakistan? What kind of unity do you want with people who have been killing us for the past 30 years?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

So if you want Pashtuns to unite upon language and ethnicity, are you willing to unite with communists and atheists? With those Pashtuns who are working for America & Pakistan? What kind of unity do you want with people who have been killing us for the past 30 years?

and the JUI and Jamiets are out of your catagory of who has been killing us?

If you also accept that your so called relgionous parties also played part of killing Pashtuns and working for America and Pakistan, then i will accept your view but however, I will sacriface everything to unite my people, as i can not handle pain,poverty and misery anymore.

I oppose those who work for Pakistan,America,Arabs,Alqueda,ISI etc.

I only support those who truely are supported by Pashtuns only.

[شمله ور خراساني]

and the JUI and Jamiets are out of your catagory of who has been killing us?

If you also accept that your so called relgionous parties also played part of killing Pashtuns and working for America and Pakistan, then i will accept your view but however, I will sacriface everything to unite my people, as i can not handle pain,poverty and misery anymore.

I oppose those who work for Pakistan,America,Arabs,Alqueda,ISI etc.

I only support those who truely are supported by Pashtuns only.

Nobody supports Pashtuns only. Wake up!

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Nobody supports Pashtuns only. Wake up!

Well, this is what i mean, thats why i dont support any side.

I would support developing a Pashtun Vanguard, that is forceful in policies of unification of all tribes. I.E berlin wall etc.

With a strong and iron fist Pashtun movement, we can force tribes unite.

I also oppose the soft approach, Pashtuns never learn without being tough on them, but sadly, our people only turn on themselves for others.

[abubaker]

What Insults?

Of course the Relgious ones are against it, Come to Pakhtunkhwa and you will find many who oppose it.

Every Ethincity should have its own state, then you wont get problems of Nationalism would you?

Tajiks wont accept a Loy Afghanistan

Hazaras will feel threatened by an influx of Pashtuns as they already hate the Kochi people

Uzbeks are already on Pashtuns I.e Waziristan slaughtering Pashtuns for power and land.

They have no role, I know you are trying to say, if Loy Afghanistan is made by some Islamic justification then these people would support it, but lets me realistic, Punjabis are also Muslims, and they will oppose it with every Islamic justification, so what other option is left?

You and Iqilab, want to establish an economic hub for Arabs under the name of Khalifa, whereby you will allow Pashtuns to be slaves of Arabs. That is my view, its sad you cant see it that way.

how can expect me to accept a twisted and nationalistic ideology. Iam up for loy Afghanistan and the unification of pashtuns, but not on the ground of shared language and common ancestry or even on racial grounds but rather it should be achieved through islam and our common belief on one true GOD, Allah

[abubaker]

Well, this is what i mean, thats why i dont support any side.

I would support developing a Pashtun Vanguard, that is forceful in policies of unification of all tribes. I.E berlin wall etc.

With a strong and iron fist Pashtun movement, we can force tribes unite.

I also oppose the soft approach, Pashtuns never learn without being tough on them, but sadly, our people only turn on themselves for others.

does that mean you are willing to use force and violance to unify the pashtun?

do you think a pashtun would listen to you and follow you just because of a few harsh words, they'd rather slit your through, what makes you think you can force a pshtun to unite, and what sort of force are you talking about

[MazloomyarMaseed]

how can expect me to accept a twisted and nationalistic ideology. Iam up for loy Afghanistan and the unification of pashtuns, but not on the ground of shared language and common ancestry or even on racial grounds but rather it should be achieved through islam and our common belief on one true GOD, Allah

Shared Language and common ancestry?

So in your version of Loy Afghanistan, will we be speaking Arabic and Punjabi?

Your emotions take over you. Maybe you will be a great candidate for Alqueda, I hear JUI F would love a person like to you lead Pashtuns to complete disaster.

You can beleive in one god and still have a shared ancestry and shared Language or maybe it will hurt you that people such as you will be avoided since there will be no more ISI to protect you.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

does that mean you are willing to use force and violance to unify the pashtun?

do you think a pashtun would listen to you and follow you just because of a few harsh words, they'd rather slit your through, what makes you think you can force a pshtun to unite, and what sort of force are you talking about

Well your Mullah Omar failed at that didnt he, and due to people such as you Afghans are very known in Islamabad as being beggers or selling china made sunglasses

[abubaker]

Well your Mullah Omar failed at that didnt he, and due to people such as you Afghans are very known in Islamabad as being beggers or selling china made sunglasses

answer my questions

[abubaker]

Shared Language and common ancestry?

So in your version of Loy Afghanistan, will we be speaking Arabic and Punjabi?

Your emotions take over you. Maybe you will be a great candidate for Alqueda, I hear JUI F would love a person like to you lead Pashtuns to complete disaster.

You can beleive in one god and still have a shared ancestry and shared Language or maybe it will hurt you that people such as you will be avoided since there will be no more ISI to protect you.

answer the questions, read both our posts and you will know who is the emotional one, personal attacks wont help you with anything if you dont have anything to say then you should shut up withdraw while still have some dignity


your entire cause is based on emotions

[MazloomyarMaseed]

answer the questions, read both our posts and you will know who is the emotional one, personal attacks wont help you with anything if you dont have anything to say then you should shut up withdraw while still have some dignity


your entire cause is based on emotions

Withdraw with Dignity?

Coming from a person who cant accept the fact that Muslims no longer have an empire and *** dream about conquering Spain, the Same Spain that has illegal Muslims floating on its shores.

No Thank you.

[abubaker]

Withdraw with Dignity?

Coming from a person who cant accept the fact that Muslims no longer have an empire and wet dream about conquering Spain, the Same Spain that has illegal Muslims floating on its shores.

No Thank you.

not only Spain but the whole world will be under muslim rule, we may not have anything know but the prophecy is there, you call the hadith a wet dream but what can we expect from some one like you

answer my questions

oh wait you cant thats why you opened a thread so people can answer it for you