Before Islam came to the Land of Pashtuns

[akbarkhan]

These are known to be the Bani Israeel elders who had settled in Afghanistan after their migration from the persecution of the Babyloneon Empire.

There is completely untrue, Israel has funded many historians and researchers to 'prove' that Pashtuns are one of the lost tribes of the Israelites. Please don't sign up to such gibberish, its purely done to seek the sympathy and subservience of Pashtuns by forging blood relations.

Allah refers to everyone else by their names of their communities or their religion but when it comes to Israelites he doesn't just mention Jews or Israelites - he mentions Bani-Israelites or the children of Israel hinting a biological connection to the lineage.

[Iqra]

I think you should read the history of Al Tabari. Its a 40 volume book and costs about $500. Its one of the most detailed books which talks about the history of the middle east upto AD 900.

I'll look into this, but a 40 volume book needs serious commitment...

maybe they have special sections for me ^_^

Thanks.

BTW did you read this?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

My dear brother, obviously not all of Afghanistan is from the tribe of Israelites.

One thing that you have to remember, in the USSR, people were forbidden to worship God. After the fall of the USSR and the creation of the CIS, people went right back to worshiping God.

The sword can bend your head but not your heart.

No Pashtun tribe is of israeslite origin, this whole myth invented by a mughal servent has no value, and its just arabising Pashtuns and Pashtun history.

Regarding to the break up of USSR, has Pakistan started worshipping a god?

[Nadir Shah]

MWMN is right. Islam were brought to pashtun lands by tribal elders who were sent to Mecca by their own tribes. When they came back from Mecca they were already muslims and after holding several jirgas many pashtun tribes converted to Islam BUT NOT ALL tribes!

Maybe some of them were Bani Israel but they have assimilated INTO PASHTUN TRIBAL SOCIETY with their new religion and thats why were have tribes like ghlzay or durrani that consist of millions of people.

I dont know exactly about Kabul or Herat but I know that people of Kabulistan were fighting Baghdad caliphs who came to spread Islam upon them.

This is pure fabrication by those too awed by the non-existant mythical Arab Caliphate. The Pashtuns fought the Arab invaders. The story of Qais is a myth perpetrated by those who seek to diminish our history.

[Nadir Shah]

No Pashtun tribe is of israeslite origin, this whole myth invented by a mughal servent has no value, and its just arabising Pashtuns and Pashtun history.

Regarding to the break up of USSR, has Pakistan started worshipping a god?

The story of the Isrealite origin of Pashtuns was unknown before the Makhzan e Afghani by Naimatullah Mahal in 1612.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You are missing my point dear brother. I am saying that after the Rightly Guided Caliphate the way Islam was interpreted changed many fundamental issues of Islamic doctrine.

After Hadhrat Ali (ra) Islam became a means to for political movements to their ends.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

No Pashtun tribe is of israeslite origin, this whole myth invented by a mughal servent has no value, and its just arabising Pashtuns and Pashtun history.

Regarding to the break up of USSR, has Pakistan started worshipping a god?

If I may ask, do you believe in God and do you call yourself a follower of Islam?

I just want to clear this up.

I don't want to mix cultural hatred with religious obligations.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The tribes that migrated settled mainly in Kashmir, but some along the path to Kashmir.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Pashtuns are Sakas/Scytians.

Are Japanese claiming to be Bani Israel now a days.

Its just a fashion to be called Israelite.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

If I may ask, do you believe in God and do you call yourself a follower of Islam?

I just want to clear this up.

I don't want to mix cultural hatred with religious obligations.

I beleive in God but I am abit curious as in how Islam was brought to Pashtuns, and if it has brought any benefit to us Practically and Realistically.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Your sources and my sources are both written by someone. Neither did you nor did I live in those times to see the actual unfolding of history.

Today, in 2010, as we are living, so many events happen that we are not witnessing, despite living in the actual time. We learn of them via someone who has written them.

So, I would say that we could both have our opinions, no need to take out the nails, pussy cat.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Your sources and my sources are both written by someone. Neither did you nor did I live in those times to see the actual unfolding of history.

Today, in 2010, as we are living, so many events happen that we are not witnessing, despite living in the actual time.

So, I would say that we could both have our opinions, no need to take out the nails, pussy cat.

Has any religious Conquest ever been Peaceful?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

The tribes that migrated settled mainly in Kashmir, but some along the path to Kashmir.

What tribes? Israelites?

They say Jesus was a Kashmiri now a days.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What do you mean by conquest?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What tribes? Israelites?

They say Jesus was a Kashmiri now a days.

Have you done your research in order to say it is not true?