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  • #16
    Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
    cudnt they think ov a better example other than biting penis's and genitals? or does it just sound stupid in english and not in arabic?
    Who is "they"?

    In some translations it is translated as penis.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by borgza View Post
      big deal if it is offensive to muslims you idiot this post is disrespecting our holy Prophet(p.b.u.h) its is saying he said this (astaghfarullah) this thread is the worst thread in this forum disgusting

      Who made you to decide what is offensive and what not?

      This hadeeth is recorded in many books of hadeeth used through-out the muslim world.

      Do you really think that you know better than all the scholars of Ahlul Sunnah who recorded this book and authenticated it?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
        So you are saying that your knowledge of Hadeeth is superior to that of Muhaditheen like albaani, Suyuti, mohammed al Munaawi and alwaad3i?

        You think you know better than all those scholars of the past 1400 years who accepted this hadeeth as authentic?
        Yes I do.

        If you belief in these fabricated hadiths, go bite your dads genitals, and **** a goat. Since it is mentioned in Hadith narrations after Sahih Muslim.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by کیش View Post
          Yes I do.

          If you belief in these fabricated hadiths, go bite your dads genitals, and **** a goat. Since it is mentioned in Hadith narrations after Sahih Muslim.
          well bro كيش
          u have to understand wats the meaning of the hadith first and then u can tell us wat u want to lik :P

          well this site would help who can talk arabic and read arabic .






          الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه، أما بعـد:
          فمما لا شك فيه أن الإسلام قد حث على الحياء، بل قال أبو سعيد الخدري رضي الله عنه: كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أشد حياء من العذراء في خدرها وكان إذا كره شيئا عرفناه في وجهه. رواه البخاري ومسلم، وكان صلى الله عليه وسلم يكني ولا يصرح في الأغلب من أحواله، ولكن قد يصرح أحياناً للمصلحة أو الحاجة</SPAN>، قال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية</SPAN> في منهاج السنة: قال أهل العلم: يجوز التصريح باسم العورة للحاجة والمصلحة... كما في حديث أبي بن كعب عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: من تعزى بعزاء الجاهلية فأعضوه بهن أبيه ولا تكنوا. انتهى، والحديث </SPAN>رواه</SPAN> </SPAN>أحمد والنسائي في الكبرى</SPAN> </SPAN>وصححه</SPAN> </SPAN>الألباني وحسنه الأرناؤوط.</SPAN></SPAN>
          وقال في مجموع الفتاوى: ومعنى قوله (من تعزى بعزاء الجاهلية) يعنى يعتزى بعزواتهم وهي الانتساب إليهم في الدعوة مثل قوله يالقيس ياليمن ويالهلال ويالاسد فمن تعصب لأهل بلدته أو مذهبه أو طريقته أو قرابته أو لأصدقائه دون غيرهم كانت فيه شعبة من الجاهلية حتى يكون المؤمنون كما أمرهم الله تعالى معتصمين بحبله وكتابه وسنة رسوله فإن كتابهم واحد ودينهم واحد ونبيهم واحد وربهم إله واحد لا إله إلا هو له الحمد في الأولى والآخرة وله الحكم واليه ترجعون". انتهى. </SPAN>
          وذكر ابن القيم الحكمة من ذكر هن الأب، فقال في زاد المعاد: ذكر هن الأب لمن تعزى بعزاء الجاهلية فيقال له: اعضض هن أبيك، وكان ذكر هن الأب ها هنا أحسن تذكيرا لهذا المتكبر بدعوى الجاهلية بالعضو الذي خرج منه، وهو هن أبيه، فلا ينبغي له أن يتعدى طوره. انتهى. </SPAN>
          وما هذا إلا لشدة تحريم التعصب للقوميات الجاهلية، قال الشنقيطي في أضواء البيان: فانظر كيف سمى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ذلك النداء « عزاء الجاهلية » وأمر ان يقال للداعي به «اعضض على هن أبيك» أي فرجه، وأن يصرح له بذلك ولا يعبر عنه بالكناية. فهذا يدل على شدة قبح هذا النداء، وشدة بغض النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم له.... واعلم أن رؤساء الدعاة إلى نحو هذه القومية العربية: أبو جهل، وأبو لهب، والوليد بن المغيرة، ونظراؤهم من رؤساء الكفرة. وقد بين تعالى تعصبهم لقوميتهم في آيات كثيرة. كقوله: </SPAN>قَالُوا حَسْبُنَا مَا وَجَدْنَا عَلَيْهِ آَبَاءَنَا {المائدة: 104}</SPAN>، وقوله: </SPAN>قَالُوا بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَا أَلْفَيْنَا عَلَيْهِ آَبَاءَنَا</SPAN> {البقرة: 170}، وأمثال ذلك من الآيات . </SPAN>
          </SPAN>واعلم انه لا خلاف بين العلماء كما ذكرنا آنفا في منع النداء برابطة غير الإسلام. كالقوميات والعصبيات النسبية ، ولاسيما إذا كان النداء بالقومية يقصد من ورائه القضاء على رابطة الإسلام وإزالتها بالكلية. فإن النداء بها حينئذ معناه الحقيقي : أنه نداء إلى التخلي عن دين الإسلام ، ورفض الرابطة السماوية رفضا باتا ، على أن يعتاض من ذلك روابط عصبية قومية مدارها على أن هذا من العرب، وهذا منهم أيضا مثلا. فالعروبة لا يمكن أن تكون خلفا من الإسلام . واستبدالها به صفقة خاسرة، فهي كما قال الراجز:</SPAN>
          بدلـت بالجـمة رأسـا أزعـرا </SPAN>
          وبالثنايا الواضحات الدردرا </SPAN>
          كما اشترى المسلم إذ تنصرا.... </SPAN>
          وقد بين الله جل وعلا في محكم كتابه : أن الحكمة في جعله بني آدم شعوبا وقبائل هي التعارف فيما بينهم . وليست هي أن يتعصب كل شعب على غيره ، وكل قبيلة على غيرها . قال جل وعلا: </SPAN></SPAN>يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُمْ مِنْ ذَكَرٍ وَأُنْثَى وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ {الحجرات:13</SPAN> } </SPAN>فاللام في قوله {لتعارفوا} </SPAN>لام التعليل، والأصل لتتعارفوا، وقد حذفت إحدى التاءين . فالتعارف هو العلة المشتملة على الحكمة لقوله: {</SPAN>وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا </SPAN>}" انتهى.</SPAN>
          ومع هذا كله فإن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم كنى في هذا الحديث ولم يصرح،</SPAN> لأن كلمة هن نفسها كناية عن الفرج وليست تصريحا باسمه، فقد قال ابن الأثير في النهاية في غريب الحديث:" والهن بالتخفيف والتشديد كناية عن الشيء لا تذكره باسمه".
          والله أعلم.</SPAN>


          well its hard to translate it but hope some one would translate it :P

          the hadith is sahih and right .

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          • #20
            Originally posted by afghan View Post
            shamlawar stop inventing these things it souds disgusting.
            this is an authentic hadith....it isn't made up I have seen it in many known collections.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by borgza View Post
              big deal if it is offensive to muslims you idiot this post is disrespecting our holy Prophet(p.b.u.h) its is saying he said this (astaghfarullah) this thread is the worst thread in this forum disgusting
              but what if he did actually say it? who are we to impose our perceptions on Nabi(saw)?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Azmaray View Post
                well bro كيش
                u have to understand wats the meaning of the hadith first and then u can tell us wat u want to lik :P

                well this site would help who can talk arabic and read arabic .



                well its hard to translate it but hope some one would translate it :P

                the hadith is sahih and right .
                Why hasn't this Hadith been mentioned in Sahih Bukhari, and Muslim? It magically went unwritten for hundreds of years landing in Ahmeds book?

                Do you **** goats then? Because according to Abu Dawuds Hadith collection it is permitted. I read one book of abud Dawud, and was bemused on how it contradicted Bukhari hadiths. In Bukhari it was noted that the prophet used to wash his mouth after drinking milk. In Abu Dawud it said he didn't wash his mouth after drinking milk. I belief Bukhari more as it was produced earlier.

                Holy Quran
                Sahih Bukhari
                Sahih Muslim


                In that order.
                Last edited by کیش; 06-30-2011, 02:16 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by کیش View Post
                  Why hasn't this Hadith been mentioned in Sahih Bukhari, and Muslim? It magically went unwritten for hundreds of years landing in Ahmeds book?

                  Do you **** goats then? Because according to Abu Dawuds Hadith collection it is permitted.

                  Holy Quran
                  Sahih Bukhari
                  Sahih Muslim


                  In that order.
                  whats the **** are you talking about ?

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                  • #24
                    Only Wahabiz can spew such BS,what's next biting your mama tits for feeding you.
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                    • #25
                      According to Bukhari, Arabs are the chosen race (preferred above others) and this isn't even a Salafi source (Sunnipath). Salafi equivelent of the ultimate high priest Ibn Taymiyyah goes so far as to explicitly say Arabs are "superior"
                      Arabs preferred over other nations


                      So what is it, seems like an antinomy to me, on the one hand, Arabs are the chosen people and on the other, nationalism is haram?
                      Last edited by Guest; 06-30-2011, 03:30 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Niazi View Post
                        Only Wahabiz can spew such BS,what's next biting your mama tits for feeding you.
                        but this hadith existed long before Wahhabis did, how do you explain that?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Yaggi View Post


                              Hadess say do not drink water standing up
                              Yet hadess say prophet drink water standing up
                              Now you say that prophet special yet we told to follow his example???
                              Hadess say no urine toward qibla but hadess say prophet did to remove superstition
                              Hadess say prophet marry girl 6 and consummate at 9
                              You argue that special case yet we told to follow his example????
                              One hadess say Solomon have 100 wives but another say he had 60????
                              One hadess say no kissing while fasting but another say prophet did???

                              Also dont ask for proof because I will but then ill most more then that
                              So please common sense prophet give us quran to follow not hadess books
                              There hadess where prophet ban recording of things like hadess?????
                              At one time there more versions of quran much older later burnt and then uthman make one

                              Most of your points are pretty irrelevant; we're talking about ahadith which don't have any contextual variant, as the ahadith you describe.

                              This hadith exists, the Wahhabis didnt invent it and its been widely known and circulated.

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                              • #30
                                The Problem here is that people are cant accept this hadith because of their own personal predefined boundaries and understandings they impose on Muhammad(saw).

                                certain people here are idealizing their own Hang-Ups and anxieties from their culture and imposing it on the Prophet

                                the context in which the Hadith makes such a statement has no moral or behavioral problem; It's telling off people who are pompous about their ancestry as such things stir fitnah. The rules of adab deal with people who don't engage in behaviors out of such hubris. Thereby there is really nothing wrong with the hadith

                                what's wrong is how you see the hadith, instead of running away from it; grow up, take it as is.

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