Questions for modernist Muslims and Opponents of Orthodoxy

[MazloomyarMaseed]

You are just another failed nationalist. So you can go one about isi and pakistan and all other regurgitated bullcrap, it makes no difference. Whether you like it or not. Islam will dominate and you will be put into place properly.

Failed Nationalist?

I would rather be dominated by a Islam that isnt preached by you.

WHy cant you counter what i say??????

We will see, how long Taliban will last, Once Pakistan stops sheltering your little Friends in North Waziristan, we will see where you will hide, where will you go?

Why threaten me Cyber Talib, We seen your true face, your talibs raping little boys and then sending them for fidayeen suicide bombing missions, why doesnt your taliban commanders do it eh? its because they are cowards, all they do it attack civlians in DI khan and Tank, and kidnap people for ransom, these are your Shariat fighters haha.

Good luck buddy

[Feroza_Banu]

Taliban ruling the world meaning if they are the group establishing the shariah properly, then they should spread all over the world and take charge.

did taliban establish shariah properly?

u r saying IF as if you are not certain. if u r not sure how can u be supporter of a group that u r doubting.

if u don't doubt and then how can u prove that taliban are actually a group of people based on previous evidence that had established a proper sharia society -- can u back up ur claim and ur support for taliban??

Moral values, which the western society do not have

and u think, currently, the eastern countries and muslim countries are mirror of moral values? how is that so? i am sure u r not stupid to think we have ideal moral societies in eastern countries... u r aware that the most currupt countries in the world are a few muslim countries... making the top of the list.

what makes u think western countries have no morals... r u referring to sex and vulgarity. have u forgotten that vulgarity, sexual industry, drugs and alcohol is used extensively across muslim world MORE than the western countries... should i remind you of brothels and dancers of peshawar and heera mandi of pakistan?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

And people do not come to the west for western values genius, they come for money. If they came for western values then no one would be muslim anymore, duh?

Oh really, so they would rather prefer a life of being suicide bombed, their women schools blown up, told to live in stone ages, limited education, and no respect for other faiths?

Buddy, Iam in the west, All muslims here are very happy, they can walk on the street without being attacked because they follow a different hadith, they can freely with their women instead of being publically flogged for looking out of their Burqa haha.

[Feroza_Banu]

And people do not come to the west for western values genius, they come for money. If they came for western values then no one would be muslim anymore, duh?

isn't it funny that u call him genius sarcastically while you make such a stupid comment.

does that make muslims better if they are coming to west for money? to earn money don't u have to be part of the western culture. i think so. every muslim living in western country is supporting western culture one way or another. paying taxes, making businesses, serving the society by giving them their brain and capabilities... indirectly supporting their culture and way of life...

[MazloomyarMaseed]

So you think this is normal eh? you think Educated and Sane people will support this kind of ideology?



Would you send your children to this kind of school?

[inqilab]

Failed Nationalist?

I would rather be dominated by a Islam that isnt preached by you.

WHy cant you counter what i say??????

We will see, how long Taliban will last, Once Pakistan stops sheltering your little Friends in North Waziristan, we will see where you will hide, where will you go?

Why threaten me Cyber Talib, We seen your true face, your talibs raping little boys and then sending them for fidayeen suicide bombing missions, why doesnt your taliban commanders do it eh? its because they are cowards, all they do it attack civlians in DI khan and Tank, and kidnap people for ransom, these are your Shariat fighters haha.

Good luck buddy

lol you are one confused person, most of those attacks are done by people like you, who just hate punjabis and are pashtun nationalists, they have no aim or value, just hot headed and out for blood.

I personally also think those attacks are done by pak military and private firms like blackwater.

And i was not talking about pak taliban anyways.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

lol you are one confused person, most of those attacks are done by people like you, who just hate punjabis and are pashtun nationalists, they have no aim or value, just hot headed and out for blood.

I personally also think those attacks are done by pak military and private firms like blackwater.

And i was not talking about pak taliban anyways.

haha oh really, shall i post the 1000's of suicide mission cds of Taliban on Shias and other people?

Doesnt seem like Blackwater is doing it, usual attitude eh, blaime others

You know the truth very well but ignore it

Tell me mr wise guy, what did the suicide bombing on the civili hospital in DI khan? Was it Blacwater or TTP?

I do have a value and aim in life, but it isnt about killing people in the name of god and i dont abuse peoples faith to oppress others beleives.

You see, I want to work for the betterment of Pashtuns, but people such as you, just want violence and war, nothing else, all you care for is to prove your own loss of confidence with the world, by killing those you deem as kaffir, your an minority, you see, your sane normal people wont support such movements as yours, you will taste reality very soon, lets see how long people such as you last, you live under ISI protection, Afghan taliban are the childrne of COl imam, you think Afghans and other people will accept you as a government?

[inqilab]

did taliban establish shariah properly?

u r saying IF as if you are not certain. if u r not sure how can u be supporter of a group that u r doubting.

if u don't doubt and then how can u prove that taliban are actually a group of people based on previous evidence that had established a proper sharia society -- can u back up ur claim and ur support for taliban??

I said "Taliban ruling the world meaning if they are the group establishing the shariah properly, then they should spread all over the world and take charge."

Which i believe they are, yes, and i do not have to prove anything since this is not a sales pitch. I am not here to convince you.

and u think, currently, the eastern countries and muslim countries are mirror of moral values? how is that so? i am sure u r not stupid to think we have ideal moral societies in eastern countries... u r aware that the most currupt countries in the world are a few muslim countries... making the top of the list.

Muslim countries has better morals then western, yes. Keep in mind no muslim country rules by shariah, and still then they have more ghairat then western people.

what makes u think western countries have no morals... r u referring to sex and vulgarity. have u forgotten that vulgarity, sexual industry, drugs and alcohol is used extensively across muslim world MORE than the western countries... should i remind you of brothels and dancers of peshawar and heera mandi of pakistan?

read above, westerners are worst then animals when it comes to morals, just look at europe.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I said "Taliban ruling the world meaning if they are the group establishing the shariah properly, then they should spread all over the world and take charge."

Which i believe they are, yes, and i do not have to prove anything since this is not a sales pitch. I am not here to convince you.




Muslim countries has better morals then western, yes. Keep in mind no muslim country rules by shariah, and still then they have more ghairat then western people.




read above, westerners are worst then animals when it comes to morals, just look at europe.

You know, there was a very well known tablighi, he came to UK, he was booted out of a Street by muslims, the reason was, because they are very happy and he should spread his tablighi in the Muslim world who needs it more than those in Europe.

If westeners are worse than Animals than what about your Arab sheiks eh? are they not considered lower than animals since you love them very much.

What Shariat man? you cant even tolarate those who font follow Mr Wahab, who will u rule over eh? nobody will accept it, and you still dont accept reality

[inqilab]

haha oh really, shall i post the 1000's of suicide mission cds of Taliban on Shias and other people?

Well you already know my stance against shias.

But please do post the videos where taliban take responsibility for attacking other people, who are these other people anyways?

Doesnt seem like Blackwater is doing it, usual attitude eh, blaime others

You know the truth very well but ignore it

Yes the usual attitude, until taliban claims the responsibility for it, i take the default position that they did not do it. I rather not believe in the propaganda by pakistan.

Tell me mr wise guy, what did the suicide bombing on the civili hospital in DI khan? Was it Blacwater or TTP?

Did ttp take responsibility? Can you show me where. And was not the attack on shias?

I do have a value and aim in life, but it isnt about killing people in the name of god and i dont abuse peoples faith to oppress others beleives.

You see, I want to work for the betterment of Pashtuns, but people such as you, just want violence and war, nothing else, all you care for is to prove your own loss of confidence with the world, by killing those you deem as kaffir, your an minority, you see, your sane normal people wont support such movements as yours, you will taste reality very soon, lets see how long people such as you last, you live under ISI protection, Afghan taliban are the childrne of COl imam, you think Afghans and other people will accept you as a government?

lol i did not say you have no value nor aim, i said you are a nationalist that is a failure.

And yes, afghans will accept and already have accepted taliban in the south, do they think they prefer karzai or nato in their lands? lol

Anyways you already know my stance, i will not change it unless you can give me solid proof.

[Feroza_Banu]

I said "Taliban ruling the world meaning if they are the group establishing the shariah properly, then they should spread all over the world and take charge."

1. Which i believe they are, yes, and i do not have to prove anything since this is not a sales pitch. I am not here to convince you.

2. Muslim countries has better morals then western, yes. Keep in mind no muslim country rules by shariah, and still then they have more ghairat then western people.

3. read above, westerners are worst then animals when it comes to morals, just look at europe.

1. wake up sleepy head... u will have to do alot of convincing if u want taliban government to take charge over the world. or r u planning to blow up everyone who doesn't want taliban rule? didn't ur taliban government already try forcefully establishing government and it didn't work? u r really in a dream land.

2. where is this ghairat that u are talking about. i am sure as hell pakistan doesn't reflect it. just because u keep repeating something over and over again doesn't mean u r making a point... u r like a broken record stuck on the same note...

3. look what? what does exist in europe that doesn't exist in muslim countries? still... u r a broken record. like ur buddies (taliban)... u lack knowledge, comprehension, and education. neither u deserve to rule nor the people that u represent.

[inqilab]

You know, there was a very well known tablighi, he came to UK, he was booted out of a Street by muslims, the reason was, because they are very happy and he should spread his tablighi in the Muslim world who needs it more than those in Europe.

Ok so? They have millions of tablighis in afghanistan, pak and india.

i do not understand what is your point about one tablighi guy.

If westeners are worse than Animals than what about your Arab sheiks eh? are they not considered lower than animals since you love them very much.

Where did i say i love arab sheiks? lol

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the wet, why are they leaving they western values for islam?

What Shariat man? you cant even tolarate those who font follow Mr Wahab, who will u rule over eh? nobody will accept it, and you still dont accept reality

You mean mr muhamamd ibn abdul wahab? Or wahab is someone else?

if you are talking about the other thread, i never even mentioned anything about following ibn abdul wahab.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Well you already know my stance against shias.

But please do post the videos where taliban take responsibility for attacking other people, who are these other people anyways?




Yes the usual attitude, until taliban claims the responsibility for it, i take the default position that they did not do it. I rather not believe in the propaganda by pakistan.




Did ttp take responsibility? Can you show me where. And was not the attack on shias?




lol i did not say you have no value nor aim, i said you are a nationalist that is a failure.

And yes, afghans will accept and already have accepted taliban in the south, do they think they prefer karzai or nato in their lands? lol

Anyways you already know my stance, i will not change it unless you can give me solid proof.

As i said, where is the afghan uprising like the one we seen during the soviet war?

Why just the South? I thought all Afghans support Shariat.

Who said Iam a Nationalist, I thought a JUI supporter such as yourself wouldnt use Western terms, call me a Pashtun who cares for his people instead of Nationalist.

Please As i have said 100000's of times to your one sided brain, come to DI Khan, you will see all your Afghan Taliban patrolling with Pakistan Army. If your Taliban are such Shariat supporters, then why doesnt Mullah omar SPEAK OF SHARIT OF PAKISTAN?

its because hes protected by the ISI and Pakistan,

[inqilab]

1. wake up sleepy head... u will have to do alot of convincing if u want taliban government to take charge over the world. or r u planning to blow up everyone who doesn't want taliban rule? didn't ur taliban government already try forcefully establishing government and it didn't work? u r really in a dream land.

2. where is this ghairat that u are talking about. i am sure as hell pakistan doesn't reflect it. just because u keep repeating something over and over again doesn't mean u r making a point... u r like a broken record stuck on the same note...

3. look what? what does exist in europe that doesn't exist in muslim countries? still... u r a broken record. like ur buddies (taliban)... u lack knowledge, comprehension, and education. neither u deserve to rule nor the people that u represent.

First of all you are a nobody for me to convince, you are just a forum user name.

If you do not like what i have to say, just ignore me. That is it. But i will not change my views of the taliban being good and western values as being immoral and inhumane.

And you want to talk about heera mandi etc. most of those pimps and *****s are shias anyways. Because that is what their shia religion teaches them.

You can talk about immorality in muslim countries, and i guarantee you most of it comes from shias or westernized people.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Ok so? They have millions of tablighis in afghanistan, pak and india.

i do not understand what is your point about one tablighi guy.




Where did i say i love arab sheiks? lol

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the wet, why are they leaving they western values for islam?



You mean mr muhamamd ibn abdul wahab? Or wahab is someone else?

if you are talking about the other thread, i never even mentioned anything about following ibn abdul wahab.

Well my point is, compare the standard of life of a Muslim in the west to the standard of life of a person who lives a life like you.

People get confused by the meaning of fastest growing, I would agree, that Muslims have alot of children, and due to this their population grows, but Mr Iqilab, tell me are Wahab followers so much in numbers, when you say fastest growing relgion, who would you consider is contributing to such big numbers when you dont even consider shias nor sufis etc as Muslims.

There is a big difference.