American Muslims and their weird mentality

[ScimitarXEdge]

solution please, stop waffling.

you're not apart of the solution.

[IamDZJ]

Let's get one thing straight; America= Canada and Canada= America. I see no distinction; i see plenty. you wouldn't be what you are had you the privilege of seeing the distinction.I've been to both countries, the culture and lifestyle is the same.
I dont get why you keep trying to draw distinction; after all Canadian troops are helping their American Allies in their conquests of Asia.

It's precisely because of being reduced to living like a spineless coward, that you're patriotic in the first place because Patriotism is something manufactured by Imperialist cultures to mentally enslave brainwash people into blind conformity. If you were brave, you would have the courage to smite what surrounds you irregardless of whatever lies and illusions they try and fool the masses with. so in other words, you are too smart to like the people around you.. good for you.

Obviously being a house slave for so long has twisted your mind to think of reality in reverse.


You can't think rationally what so ever apparently; Something isnt valid or invalid based on the circumstances a person is in. A person can live next to someone who burn 1000 Qur'ans but what makes a difference is what they do with their location. A Patriot won't do anything except make sure their system stands.

I can burn 1000 Qur'ans and it still won't be as cowardly and spineless and mentally enslaved as being patriotic; How Legitimate we are is a state of mind, not a state of location. And if your state of mind is patriotic; then they already own you; at least with me , my mind hasn't submitted. you are fighting a battle inside your mind with yourself. such battles almost always don't exist outside one's own mindset. in other words, you are a bucking coward who thinks alot about things but rarely takes action upon them. why don't you continue with your mental jihad on your own and leave the rest of us alone. i for one don't have the ability to read minds and figure out who stands where and how dedicated he is to the claims he makes.
i am very much happy with the people and country where i live in. the minute i find the need to fight a jihad in my head against it, i will kindly find me somewhere better to live in instead. there is no point in building a volcano of hatred inside me for people if i don't plan on doing anything against it rather than hate people and the country that i live in.

should prove that i have no intentions of wanting to be a member of the society of wimpy racist self deluded olive stinking afghan wannabe arab *******s ....as i mentioned on my second post in this thread.

[faye]

you're not apart of the solution.

apart or a part? maybe i am not 'a part' of the solution, but you can be if you stop with the prejudice and turn and look to the issues that need to be solved within your own community.

[Haris]

I think in the UK the Muslim community is closer because Muslims are more concentrated (in London, Birmingham, Bradford etc) whereas in the US/Canada they would be more spread out. I think this is a factor worth noting when considering the American Muslim mentality.

On Fridays & Eid the mosques here are always packed (the other day people were praying outside on the pavement) and London has more mosques/masjids than any other city in the West.


Although that is not to say that there are no Muslims who are 'patriotic' in the sense that they give up their Islamic identity for a Western one.

Infact if you are interested this is a very good film about this:

[ScimitarXEdge]

@DZJ

of course you'd rather be apart of mentally enslaved subservient weaklings, hide behind patriotism to justify their brainwashing. That's the only way you can rationalize being a traitor of Muslims.

I never said I'm fighting a battle in my own mind; that's all you could take out of it because you're so brainwashed you can't think outside the boundaries of your brainwashing.

The reason you see a distinction is because you want to justify your subservience to yourself. I have not the same mental impairments that you do thankfully. I can see reality for what it is. Canada and America more or less identical. The only "mental war" here is one where your mind is under their control or where your mind isn't.

You're a deluded fool if you think that Living in Canada equates to believing in it's merits or that living in the society you oppose equates to contradiction; You're in Canada because of what Canada , it's Masters the United States and Britain and others have done to manipulate and exploit the global habitat out of it's natural balance. Obviously the brainwashing you've been enslaved prevents you from seeing that the Problem is Globalized exploitation by Institutions centered in this societies; hence the "moving to the other place" would only work if you had a plan to leave the Planet Earth itself.

Living in Canada or America we have a certain Opportunity; and by Opportunity I don't mean the delusions of advancing according to their framework of indoctrination; I mean opportunity to liberate our planet; Are you using that opportunity .or do you want to continue being a passive sheep justifying it through some delusion of patriotism.

again; I would rather be an Arab wannabe than a slave. by all means call me that if that's what being opposite of a slave is.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I think in the UK the Muslim community is closer because Muslims are more concentrated (in London, Birmingham, Bradford etc) whereas in the US/Canada they would be more spread out. I think this is a factor worth noting when considering the American Muslim mentality.

On Fridays & Eid the mosques here are always packed (the other day people were praying outside on the pavement) and London has more mosques/masjids than any other city in the West.


Although that is not to say that there are no Muslims who are 'patriotic' in the sense that they give up their Islamic identity for a Western one.

Infact if you are interested this is a very good film about this:

The problem with the Muslim community in the UK though is it has so many Loud mouths and Wahhabist Types who are blinded by emotion rather than logistical approach at how to liberate themselves out of the chain of dependence.

And hence you have people who fall into these two channels; misguided fatalists or slaves.

[faye]

scimitar, you say the same things over and over, mentally colonised etc, that it sounds as though you are the one that is programmed and robotic.
you seem to think you are the only one capable of being perceptive to the deceits of western civilisation, you are the only liberated free being. when you are really free, you will use the heart as well as the head. ( i read it somewhere, what would i know, lol)

[ScimitarXEdge]

compared to DZJ; I certainly stand a chance to be liberated than she does.

I feel bad for her honestly, but as you said Faye, she has a choice, she chose the dark side. So she'll be on the receiving end of the barrel soon enough.

[faye]

whose barrel scimitarx? wheres the love?

[Baygham]

the oppression you see of Muslims to other Muslims is usually by puppets, for example; Pakistan would be an example of a Puppet Government.

Believe me I'm fully aware that the FBI watches me and there's a Van that's parked near my house every other day. I never incite violence, but I want to cultivate a psychology. Where we can destroy their civilization without a single shot fired.

We believe you, brother and we call it Paranoid schizophrenia,

Thorazine will take care of that Van outside.

[khushal]

Arabs were slavemasters selling black slaves to the 'whites' for hundreds of years. Arabs brought their terrorist ideologies to Afghanistan. Their imperialism in Africa (Sudan). Their modern governments are corrupt/sinister/oppressive.

On the same token they gave us Islam. They fought justly against the crusaders. They spread science, mathematics, philosophy & knowledge throughout the world (golden age). They set up complex trade routes throughout Asia & South-East Asia.
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What are you talking about. The Arabs did not give us Islam. It was Allah through the Muslims that gave us Islam. It was the Muslms that spread, science, mathematics, philosophy, and knowledge throughout the world. These contribution to humanity was not done by the Arabs alone, but everyone from all over the world went to the muslims because they had the freedom to further their research and advance their studies. Many of these Scholars from Europe, Central Asia, India, and other areas were persecuted for thinking differently than the norm in their indigenous society. Most Mathematics was actually advanced by Hindu Indians that had the freedom to do research in Baghdad.
These Scholars who were Muslim, Christian, Jews, Hindu, Buddhists were a huge asset to the Muslim Ummah and had transformed Baghdad into the beacon and center of knowledge. But of course in Sangars thinking they would have been killed off like they were killing them in Europe at the time which kept them backwards and in the Dark ages.

[unknownprince]

Believe me I'm fully aware that the FBI watches me and there's a Van that's parked near my house every other day. I never incite violence, but I want to cultivate a psychology. Where we can destroy their civilization without a single shot fired

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I really hope your not becoming paranoid. You have the right to speak out against foreign intervention, meaning the failed criminal war in Afghanistan and the rest of the world.

[khushal]

When I am done I will be back in Afghanistan where I can make the life of apostates, infidels and servants of the kufar miserable inshaa allah.

Don't do it. Bring peace to the country not misery.

[Haris]

What are you talking about. The Arabs did not give us Islam. It was Allah through the Muslims that gave us Islam. It was the Muslms that spread, science, mathematics, philosophy, and knowledge throughout the world. These contribution to humanity was not done by the Arabs alone, but everyone from all over the world went to the muslims because they had the freedom to further their research and advance their studies. Many of these Scholars from Europe, Central Asia, India, and other areas were persecuted for thinking differently than the norm in their indigenous society. Most Mathematics was actually advanced by Hindu Indians that had the freedom to do research in Baghdad.
These Scholars who were Muslim, Christian, Jews, Hindu, Buddhists were a huge asset to the Muslim Ummah and had transformed Baghdad into the beacon and center of knowledge. But of course in Sangars thinking they would have been killed off like they were killing them in Europe at the time which kept them backwards and in the Dark ages.

I do not deny any of that, but, simply put, if it were not for Arabs we would not have Islam in Afghanistan.


My point was that Arabs have brought us good things (if you have objections to the good things that I stated then you can replace them with your own) and bad things so it would be irrational to aspire to be like them, when we should aspire to be good Muslims.

[khushal]

I do not deny any of that, but, simply put, if it were not for Arabs we would not have Islam in Afghanistan.
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This is a racist statement. Your confusing the argument. The Arabs did not invent Islam and brought it to the World. The Arabs were converted to Islam, and the Muslims spread Islam to the world. It was the Muslims that brought Islam to the region. These Muslims were a diverse group. They were not one race or ethnic group.
Because of your line of thinking, Arabs are hated by many people because when you think like this you are manipulating the Arabs into an arrogant people, you are transporting them back into the era of Jahilia.