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You claim to be a muslim but really you are a munafiq.Originally posted by Mountain Goat View PostWhatever the political goals of Memri TV, the footage they used is actual footage from an Iraqi TV debate.
The captions on the video were written by the islamophobes to disprove the Quran, were they not?
You are a donkey, that much is clear to me. All you can do is make up strawman arguments to convince yourself that you are smarter, when really you are just as ignorant as faye.So basically you've made a 180 degree turn on the issue and now believe what every sane Muslim knew all along, that the Earth is round.
It's a bloody miracle.
where did Harun yahya endorse earth expansion theory?LMAO, this guy cracks me up.
It's always one step forward and three steps back with you, isn't it Alchemist? This hypothesis is a relic. It was rejected 40 years ago yet here you are, parading it around as if the issue is currently being debated and the Expanding Earth hypothesis is perfectly valid and substantiated.
40 years behind. This really is symptomatic of you Alchemist. Completely ignorant of scientific developments, spouting falsehoods and pseudoscience that you've picked up from some Harun Yahya pamphlet.
Anyway, to anyone interested here is why the Expanding Earth hypothesis is bogus:
Just show me that much ...
Obviously you can't accept an earth expansion model despite the obvious evidence, because it would totally debunk the mythology of evolution.
Then every time you want to disprove me, you have to run to wikipedia to read what the concensus of lay people are rather what real scientists. It is just as easy for me to go the same wikipedia page and click on the discussion section to find the bias.
The four points you have mentioned can easily be disputed.
1) Data from NASA shows that the position of satelites is increasing vertically by at least 1.7 mm/year.
2) is not even sourced on wikipedia. So it appears that the editors at wikipedia are your primary source now. In any case...here is evidence of accretion:

Each layer of the grand canyon is of a different colour, showing deposits of meteors and debris collected from different ages when the earth was moving through space.
The fossils that are collected, from each layer, had its own day under the sun at one point. Modern estimates of accretion of dust to about 214 tons/day.
3) the papers sourced from the 60's ...besides paleomagnetic data shows that india never "drifted" off and smashed into asia.
SpringerLink - Pure and Applied Geophysics, Volume 104, Number 1
the data shows that india has been in the northern hemisphere in the precambrian era ...but the accepted theory is that india drifted from the south and crashed into asia 50 million years ago - no evidence.
"from rocks of this age are of highly variable quality, and are
plagued with large uncertainties in the age of various components.
After careful examination of the existing paleomagnetic
data, we have chosen to limit our attempts at a detailed
reconstruction to the Vendian, from the approximate time of
the last glacial episode of the Neo-Proterozoic Cryogenian
System (see Table 1.1.1) through to the Cambrian-Ordovician
boundary. Several factors influence this decision, including the
low number of well dated or stratigraphically constrained
paleomagnetic determinations for Early and Middle Proterozoic
time, and the general lack of intercontinental correlation
between them. Precambrian paleomagnetic data have been
used to support a wide variety of conflicting models of Precambrian
plate motions, both for and against the existence of
modern-style plate tectonics and even for an expanding earth
(Piper 1982, 1983, 1986; Schmidt and Embleton 1981; Klootwijk
1980)."
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~jkirschvink/pdfs/pprg.pdf
4) Interestingly enough the source (18) to this last tidbit on the list of "evidence" on wiki's page is a news letter of 26 pages, and in it there is evidence against the plate tectonic mentioned:
]See the letter by James Murdock where he asks that drill testing be conducted at "megathrust" regions to check the date of the rocks there for evidence for convergence...because so far the evidence collected is against platetectonic models. He cites Choi (1992) and Fujita (1997) who couldn't find any evidence of subduction or tectonic accretion at the trenches off the Izu Peninseula of Japan. There is a list of 20 references at the end...you might want to check it out.
Anyway ...you are a goofy clown and I highly doubt you could check or cross reference any of the sources...otherwise I would lay over you with a pile of scientific papers in support of a global expansion tectonic theory.
"Alternative theoretical formulations which have a following within the scientific community are not pseudoscience, but part of the scientific process."
memorize the above.Last edited by Alchemist; 05-23-2011, 06:11 PM.
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Roflmao!
Stop dodging, the footage is real regardless of who captured it and what captions were applied afterwards.Originally posted by Alchemist View PostThe captions on the video were written by the islamophobes to disprove the Quran, were they not?
Oh yes, of course! Because if the volume of the Earth is increasing it would mean that organisms did not develop into other organisms, right? It makes perfect sense!Originally posted by Alchemist View PostObviously you can't accept an earth expansion model despite the obvious evidence, because it would totally debunk the mythology of evolution.
Hahaha! Behold as the great scientist Alchemist presses on to disprove yet another well established scientific theory, plate tectonics!Originally posted by Alchemist View Postthe data shows that india has been in the northern hemisphere in the precambrian era ...but the accepted theory is that india drifted from the south and crashed into asia 50 million years ago - no evidence.
First evolution, then the shape of the Earth and now plate tectonics.
What will be next in his long line of discoveries? Alas, if only the scientific community would listen to his genius...
Last edited by طالب; 05-23-2011, 08:24 PM.
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See how delusional this goat is?Originally posted by Mountain Goat View PostStop dodging, the footage is real regardless of who captured it and what captions were applied afterwards.
He has himself convinced that it was me in the footage and now he is saying I am "dodging" it because it's not me ...what an a.s.s.
no genius, because evolution holds it that life emerged from the sea. But according to a global tectonic expansion theory the earth would first be mostly land and not sea...so life would have to originate on land as well...Oh yes, of course! Because if the volume of the Earth is increasing it would mean that organisms did not develop into other organisms, right? It makes perfect sense!
see...you are goofy. I have to connect the dots for you EVERY TIME.
Practice here.
show proof for subduction.Hahaha! Behold as the great scientist Alchemist presses on to disprove yet another well established scientific theory, plate tectonics!
First evolution, then the shape of the Earth and now plate tectonics.
What will be next in his long line of discoveries? Alas, if only the scientific community would listen to his genius...
if you can...
oh that's right ... your proof is that "its established fact" ... more circular arguments ... ba-aaah...ba-aaah...ba-aaah.
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WHAT?!? Nooo, are you saying the guy in the video isn't you? This cannot be! My world comes crushing down! lolOriginally posted by Alchemist View PostHe has himself convinced that it was me in the footage
Good thing the Expanding Earth hypothesis is a load of bull then.Originally posted by Alchemist View Postno genius, because evolution holds it that life emerged from the sea. But according to a global tectonic expansion theory the earth would first be mostly land and not sea...so life would have to originate on land as well...
Open any high school geography book and...here it comes...read.Originally posted by Alchemist View Postshow proof for subduction.
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right ...make goofy faces and "dodge" the challenges by telling me to go read the books you never have read your self ...Originally posted by Mountain Goat View PostWHAT?!? Nooo, are you saying the guy in the video isn't you? This cannot be! My world comes crushing down! lol
Good thing the Expanding Earth hypothesis is a load of bull then.
Open any high school geography book and...here it comes...read.
YouTube - ‪Yes! The Earth is Expanding. Part 1 of 14.‬‏
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wror iv heard its shaped like a ostrich egg is it true ?Originally posted by Alchemist View Postright ...make goofy faces and "dodge" the challenges by telling me to go read the books you never have read your self ...
YouTube - ‪Yes! The Earth is Expanding. Part 1 of 14.‬‏
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Originally posted by barakzaigirl View Postwror iv heard its shaped like a ostrich egg is it true ?
technically speaking it is an oblate sphere (like an ostrich egg)...but even more technically speaking it's pear shaped since the diameter south of the equator is smaller than the diameter north of the equator, but barely so.
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mmm so this is mentioned in the quran wror really need to understand the quran,wow this interesting so its still a type of oblate spheroid so its still type of roundish.Originally posted by Alchemist View Posttechnically speaking it is an oblate sphere (like an ostrich egg)...but even more technically speaking it's pear shaped since the diameter south of the equator is smaller than the diameter north of the equator, but barely so.
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