Evolution contradicts Islam

[Alchemist]

Haha name calling? You being a conspiracy theorist is name calling? I thought when you told me that Jews were behind every known evil in the world, that this was a conspiracy. but now I see how immature and childish that someone using conspiracy theories being called a conspiracy theorist is. Thanks for guiding me.


Oh yeah calling people heretics for not following some Man-Made perversion of Islam is much more adult.

Oh believe me I have a an argument, I just have tests so I can only give short replies for a few days.

if by short replies you mean the posts where you call me a goof, daft, and a pokemon watcher...then don't bother.

All you do is just show how hurt you are by the torrent of information that I have unloaded here.

Go. Be a good boy. Study for your test. Impress your seniors at the academy.

Besyar pok gary wa kacha gery nako.



It just goes to show that you are using forums and all forms of debate platforms as a way of exorcising your own demons and inflating your own ego.

What is this rubbish about the jews and why do you keep repeating it over and over?
Is that all you have to fall back on now?
It's a bit pathetic that you won't argue on what it is I am saying and then throw phrases like "Strawman fallacy" 40 times a day at everyone else.
Have some shame and stop with the "bully tactics". It won't work on me. All it does is make you look silly.

In any case. Since I have disproved everything else you have tried to argue on, be it on Islam or Science. I will continue to write about the delusions of evolution.

Yes, there is a conspiracy in the institutions of 'Sciences' to suppress all the data and facts that contradict this debunked theory of "evolution".
Ben Stein's "Expelled: No intelligence allowed" documents this fact by going behind the scenes and looking at the hundreds of cases of scientist loosing their position for exposing evolution as a fraud. This is because many prestigious journals, scientific societies and magazines for decades have endorsed the theory of evolution as a fact. Many professors and their ilks have staked their lives on it. So to pull the curtains on them would show them naked and discredit the institution as a whole. This would be a repeat of a second fall in the west, the first being that of the church. If the Church was shown false, then the scientific institutions claims on the narrative of life proven false, what else would they have to fall on? Islam?

The first big argument you and I had wasn't on the legitimacy of the Federal Reserve, which is predominantly jewish controlled. It was on the theory of Platetectonics. I wanted to see how open minded you are, so I shot the question at you: "What do you think of the earth expansion theory". You showed yourself to be a true conformist. The level of your conformity can be gauged by how hard you are trying now to vilify me. You think it is an insult to call me a "creationist"?
Platetectonic theory is another dogma on which evolution theory rests upon. It can easily be shown that in the beginning, there were no oceans. Thus the proposition of evolution that life began in the ocean would be false. And your claim that all living things "came from" water, would be utterly absurd.

for those who are interested:

http://www.aoi.com.au/matrix/Nuteeriat-P22-41.pdf

I asked you a simple question - explain this:






How does this prove subduction when it shows that new ocean floor is emerging from the rifts between the continents?





Have you seen this?




This is a fossil record of a 300 million year old dragon fly.

Guess how big it is?

2.5 feet.

Else where you were laughing and saying Adam couldn't possibly be 90 cubit feet tall. This was in a hadith, that he, peace be upon him, was 90 cubits feel and that subsequent generations became shorter and shorter.


How did an insect this big fly? Does it make you wonder?


Just food for thought.

[Alchemist]

My opinion is that I don't understand what on Earth you're on about.

Nobody has claimed that Islam has a need for scientific evidence. In fact nobody has ever claimed that Islam was scientific. The fact that Islam is a religion should provide a clue as to why.

Science deals with the natural world, not the supernatural, therefore it can not provide evidence for many of the concepts in Islam. The most obvious being that there is but one God, Allah, and that he is above the natural, i.e. supernatural.

That's not what this debate is about though. The debate concerns whether or not Islam contradicts the scientific theory of evolution.

So what do you think Goat? Not that you can think, but what is your opinion?

Who was Adam, alihi salam?

[ScimitarXEdge]

if by short replies you mean the posts where you call me a goof, daft, and a pokemon watcher...then don't bother.

All you do is just show how hurt you are by the torrent of information that I have unloaded here.

Go. Be a good boy. Study for your test. Impress your seniors at the academy.

Besyar pok gary wa kacha gery nako.



It just goes to show that you are using forums and all forms of debate platforms as a way of exorcising your own demons and inflating your own ego.

What is this rubbish about the jews and why do you keep repeating it over and over?
Is that all you have to fall back on now?
It's a bit pathetic that you won't argue on what it is I am saying and then throw phrases like "Strawman fallacy" 40 times a day at everyone else.
Have some shame and stop with the "bully tactics". It won't work on me. All it does is make you look silly.

In any case. Since I have disproved everything else you have tried to argue on, be it on Islam or Science. I will continue to write about the delusions of evolution.

Yes, there is a conspiracy in the institutions of 'Sciences' to suppress all the data and facts that contradict this debunked theory of "evolution".
Ben Stein's "Expelled: No intelligence allowed" documents this fact by going behind the scenes and looking at the hundreds of cases of scientist loosing their position for exposing evolution as a fraud. This is because many prestigious journals, scientific societies and magazines for decades have endorsed the theory of evolution as a fact. Many professors and their ilks have staked their lives on it. So to pull the curtains on them would show them naked and discredit the institution as a whole. This would be a repeat of a second fall in the west, the first being that of the church. If the Church was shown false, then the scientific institutions claims on the narrative of life proven false, what else would they have to fall on? Islam?

The first big argument you and I had wasn't on the legitimacy of the Federal Reserve, which is predominantly jewish controlled. It was on the theory of Platetectonics. I wanted to see how open minded you are, so I shot the question at you: "What do you think of the earth expansion theory". You showed yourself to be a true conformist. The level of your conformity can be gauged by how hard you are trying now to vilify me. You think it is an insult to call me a "creationist"?
Platetectonic theory is another dogma on which evolution theory rests upon. It can easily be shown that in the beginning, there were no oceans. Thus the proposition of evolution that life began in the ocean would be false. And your claim that all living things "came from" water, would be utterly absurd.

for those who are interested:

http://www.aoi.com.au/matrix/Nuteeriat-P22-41.pdf



I asked you a simple question - explain this:






How does this prove subduction when it shows that new ocean floor is emerging from the rifts between the continents?





Have you seen this?




This is a fossil record of a 300 million year old dragon fly.

Guess how big it is?

2.5 feet.

Else where you were laughing and saying Adam couldn't possibly be 90 cubit feet tall. This was in a hadith, that he, peace be upon him, was 90 cubits feel and that subsequent generations became shorter and shorter.


How did an insect this big fly? Does it make you wonder?


Just food for thought.

The only thing you have proven is your responses are filled with scientific illiteracy and empty pomp

notice how easy it was for me to show you have you completely dont comprehend your sources and the sources say sometyhing contrary

your counter response "oh it's a conspiracy" ....lol you dont have a meritable argument and even within your last "evidence/referential" post you dont really understand the Methodology used for matching sequences

I'll get to that this weekend. That's why I laughed because it demonstrates how you're completely ignorantly making random shots at stuff and it falls short.

And your false dichotomy ; a spreading sea floor is not contrary to subduction if you understood what differential crustal heating and cooling was.

and also how you contradict your own reasoning, Even though the Qur'an says thatn different protohumans have been exterminated and replaced, this is false according to you

but the existence of a giant dragonfly is proof of a giant human? Logic is important here, the presence of one does not verify the evidence of the other.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Yeah ...Mountain Goat we need to stop the bullying tactics; and be more considerate when calling people heretics because they arent brainwashed by a bunch of scientifically ignorant individuals who look liberty to say the qur'an indicates the world is flat, without any actual basis for it.

[Alchemist]

Even though the Qur'an says thatn different protohumans have been exterminated and replaced, this is false according to you

This is just a false claim that you made up your self. A heretical claim, may I add.


I already disproved this. But you didn't bother to counter...instead you just keep trying to call me "brainwashed" and a "conspiracy theorist".


Where is the cooling regions on the map? And do you actually believe that the earth is like the sea and that material get's "cycled" from top to bottom?


That the world is flat is also stated clearly in the Qur'an. You didn't even bother to read did you?

Sumon Bokmun 3myon.


You can't debate with me on the facts. You never could.

In fact this has always been your way of diverting from the truth. Maybe Mountain Goat is just another one of your own accounts eh? Because the tact seems to be the same. You just keep repeating your self ...even after getting disproved.

Silly goat.

[ScimitarXEdge]

you didn't disprove anything and haven't disproved anything you have misrepresented things and distorted what they actually say. You also disregarded the original context of your debate, which would make the terms equally relevant. Anyways, we'll come back to the debate

you just have a massive ego and you think by flaunting a massive ego it means you have stronger proof.

the world IS flat? so the roundness of the Earth is a big conspiracy too?

I'm almost tempted to rubber stamp you a moron; but since you veil your gobbly goop with pseudo science; I have an ethical duty to expose how you do so.

deal with you later. Enjoy the reprieve.

[طالب]

That the world is flat is also stated clearly in the Qur'an.

Wait, do you believe the world is flat?

[ScimitarXEdge]

Wait, do you believe the world is flat?

yes and he believes it's a big scientific conspiracy saying that it's round. LOL


seriously I have no respect for his arguments anymore. he''s a bonafide moron as far as I'm concerned

I feel bad because I feel duped. I thought he was kind of intelligent.

[Toramana]

Hahahahahahaaaaa....Is this still on....By the way, Al-Chemist brother has poor underestanding of induction-deduction and other theorem/hypothesis-building tools and processes....

Al-Chemist Wrora, I want to say something against Arabs but only when you are not around---so what is your schedule for the coming week? Alternatively, I can forward what I want to say to you for you to censor before posting...sa dai khwakha da....?

[Alchemist]

Yes I believe the universe is flat.


YouTube - How Do We Know the Universe is Flat?


The ulama of Islam stand corrected.

[طالب]

Yes I believe the universe is flat.

That's not what I asked.

Do you believe the Earth is flat?

[Alchemist]

yes and he believes it's a big scientific conspiracy saying that it's round. LOL


seriously I have no respect for his arguments anymore. he''s a bonafide moron as far as I'm concerned

I feel bad because I feel duped. I thought he was kind of intelligent.

All bark.
No bite.

woof woof.

yes and he believes it's a big scientific conspiracy saying that it's round. LOL


seriously I have no respect for his arguments anymore. he''s a bonafide moron as far as I'm concerned

I feel bad because I feel duped. I thought he was kind of intelligent.

Hahahahahahaaaaa....Is this still on....By the way, Al-Chemist brother has poor underestanding of induction-deduction and other theorem/hypothesis-building tools and processes....

Al-Chemist Wrora, I want to say something against Arabs but only when you are not around---so what is your schedule for the coming week? Alternatively, I can forward what I want to say to you for you to censor before posting...sa dai khwakha da....?

Easy to be a clown.

Wait, do you believe the world is flat?

That's not what I asked.

Do you believe the Earth is flat?

I know what you asked goat.

Refer to post #122

Obviously Scimitar has to distort the meaning of what I say...But I don't feel duped or cheated or hurt. When you distort specific meanings of the ayats of the Qur'an...then whom I? I am nothing!

ScimitarXEdge,

You are no different than Qadianies.

You distort the meaning of several ayats of the Qur'an just like they do.
Where as qadianies pledge allegiance to a fake prophet who calls himself a khalifa...you pledge your allegiance to the academic institutions to which you have devoted most of your life to. You are the western version. You have taken up science on a higher mantel and wish to "sanitize" Islam using debunked dogmas like evolution. "Protohuman" is more laughable than even a flat earth conspiracy...but oh well. Allah has made it look right to you.

And if anyone has been exposed here. It is you.

Goat,

I've always answered your questions. Never made an excuse.
So I ask you again: Who was Adam Alihi Salam?

[طالب]

Why don't you answer my question Alchemist? It's straightforward, do you believe the Earth is flat? Yes or no?

[Alchemist]

Why don't you answer my question Alchemist? It's straightforward, do you believe the Earth is flat? Yes or no?

For the second time.

My answer is in post 122 of this thread.

Don't be a lazy goat. Go and read it.

[طالب]

I've skimmed it and can't figure out your position on the subject. Would you please settle the matter and answer my question with a yes or no: Do you believe the Earth is flat?

EDIT: Why is this so difficult for you? I don't understand why you can't answer yes or no. Are you hiding something?