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  • #31
    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    Because you're trying to portray Mullah Omar as a hero by some made up story which was used to try to make him look noble; when in reality he was a total hypocrite and used to indulge in comparative luxury and didn't give a damn about what poor Afghans had to go through
    prove me wrong but I see no hypocracy in the man. He could have kept his power in Afghanistan, all he had to do was give Osama to the Americans, he could have even let Americans build bases in the country for financial gain.

    One thing I would criticize him for is the things that happened in shomali after the massacre of Taliban in mazar in 97.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
      The Noble do not live lavishly while those under his care suffer.
      He is not living lavishly, and even if he was, he deserves it.

      Every leader lives lavishly.

      And he is not Allah, he cannot heal everyone.
      Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

      Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KhyberKhan View Post
        Once a delegation of guest came to visit Mulla Umar. Fresh bread, cream, tea and other delicacies were brought for the guests and they all began to eat heartily. All except Mulla Umar that is. He refused to touch the cream or the bread. His guests ushered him to eat with them but he refused.


        His advisors also urged him to eat with the guests, indicating that there was nothing wrong with him eating this food since it had not been brought especially for him; it was brought for the guests and he was the host. He still refused. A few moments later, a worker brought in a bowl of plain soup together with some hard, stale bread. Mulla Umar proceeded to break the hard bread with his hands and eat it with the soup. Upon being asked the reasons for his refusal to eat the cream, Mullah Umar said:

        "When the lowest person in my country eats this food, then I will eat it."

        It was not soup but his fav food....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Daruish View Post
          It was not soup but his fav food....

          Yeah and what's your favorite, Iranian wannabee?
          Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

          Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
            Yeah and what's your favorite, Iranian wannabee?
            Daal khor you got it wrong...just because i hate you cultureless people do not mean I’m pro-iran....both iran and pakistan are enemy of Afghanistan...both side shed blood of afghans, both want instability and weak Afghanistan. I see no difference between you Pakis and Rafizjee Iranians even though Iranian and I speak my language.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Daruish View Post
              Daal khor you got it wrong...just because i hate you cultureless people do not mean I’m pro-iran....both iran and pakistan are enemy of Afghanistan...both side shed blood of afghans, both want instability and weak Afghanistan. I see no difference between you Pakis and Rafizjee Iranians even though Iranian and I speak my language.
              So why are here then?

              Iran ta druma no, warsara Parsi kshe wazhaghezha chi zargai di khwash shi.

              De mizh watan prezhda se yaw gharib Paktikawal ta di kor ba derkawam.
              Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

              Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                how do we even know this story is true? I remember reading that in some Taliban propaganda like 11 years ago


                Then there were pictures of Mullah Omar's house



                Not exactly a man who's eating stale bread if he's living in such a nice house.


                Here is another view of his mansion....FYI this is after it was destroyed by bombs...





                when people of afghaistan were living like this

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                • #38
                  this is the current governments mansions,







                  whats the point

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                  • #39
                    this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Daruish View Post
                      Here is another view of his mansion....FYI this is after it was destroyed by bombs...





                      when people of afghaistan were living like this



                      Thank you so much!!! this basically shatters all the b.s. these Pakistani servants like Khushal and Khyberkhan try to promote.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #41
                        i am not a fan of mullah omar but i wouldn't call his home a mansion, seems like a typical afghan compound except for the paintings on the walls. a far cry from the presidential palace in kabul.

                        there are many legitimate gripes to be leveled at mullah omar but i don't think lavish living is one of them.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.

                          lets not forget the american bodyguards that were surrounding him 24/7 for a few years after that. truely an embarrassment to the afghan nation to have that as a "leader"
                          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                          Sayyid Qutb

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.
                            Actually the Taliban too were in power on the backs of foreign fighters and foreign support and more over, what actually happened was that the U.S. destroyed Taliban armaments; after which the Local Pashtuns who were no longer under threat of Taliban assaults and intimidation took arms and overthrew the Taliban themselves. So in actuality it was Pashtuns themselves that overthrew the Taliban, fully local and fully willing



                            source:

                            Military-political conflict—and the resulting factionalism, shifts in leadership, and divergent belief systems—has been a constant and crucial part of the Islamic world. In order to fully grasp the cultural, social, or political aspects of Islam in the modern world, it is necessary to comprehend the rich tapestry of Islamic history from pre-Islamic times to the present, much of which involved armed conflict.Conflict and Conquest in the Islamic World: A Historical Encyclopedia provides hundreds of entries on wars, revolutions, sieges, institutions, leaders, armies, weapons, and other aspects of wars and military life, enabling readers to understand the complex role conflict has played in Islamic life throughout history and see how Islamic warfare has evolved over the centuries. This reference work covers not only the traditional Middle Eastern regions and countries but also provides relevant historical information regarding Islam in North Africa, Central Asia, Southeastern Asia, and Oceania.
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                              Actually the Taliban too were in power on the backs of foreign fighters and foreign support and more over, what actually happened was that the U.S. destroyed Taliban armaments; after which the Local Pashtuns who were no longer under threat of Taliban assaults and intimidation took arms and overthrew the Taliban themselves. So in actuality it was Pashtuns themselves that overthrew the Taliban, fully local and fully willing



                              source:

                              http://books.google.com/books?id=WjQ...aliban&f=false
                              actually your source does confirm that the the US along with the NA launched military operations against the taliban which confirsm that the NA came to power on the backs of the US military.

                              Also your source does not confirm that the taliban came to power on the backs of foreigners. You are dishonest to the fullest degree.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                                actually your source does confirm that the the US along with the NA launched military operations against the taliban which confirsm that the NA came to power on the backs of the US military.

                                Also your source does not confirm that the taliban came to power on the backs of foreigners. You are dishonest to the fullest degree.


                                Ok I didn't deny that though? I am saying that your portrayal is superficial;

                                a.) the Taliban TOO were in power by foreign support
                                b.) The U.S. just disabled the Taliban militarily; which lead to Pashtuns themselves uprising against the Taliban; this shows the Taliban weren't locally supported but there by force.
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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