Once at dinner with Mullah Umar...

[khushal]

Because you're trying to portray Mullah Omar as a hero by some made up story which was used to try to make him look noble; when in reality he was a total hypocrite and used to indulge in comparative luxury and didn't give a damn about what poor Afghans had to go through

prove me wrong but I see no hypocracy in the man. He could have kept his power in Afghanistan, all he had to do was give Osama to the Americans, he could have even let Americans build bases in the country for financial gain.

One thing I would criticize him for is the things that happened in shomali after the massacre of Taliban in mazar in 97.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

The Noble do not live lavishly while those under his care suffer.

He is not living lavishly, and even if he was, he deserves it.

Every leader lives lavishly.

And he is not Allah, he cannot heal everyone.

[Daruish]

Once a delegation of guest came to visit Mulla Umar. Fresh bread, cream, tea and other delicacies were brought for the guests and they all began to eat heartily. All except Mulla Umar that is. He refused to touch the cream or the bread. His guests ushered him to eat with them but he refused.


His advisors also urged him to eat with the guests, indicating that there was nothing wrong with him eating this food since it had not been brought especially for him; it was brought for the guests and he was the host. He still refused. A few moments later, a worker brought in a bowl of plain soup together with some hard, stale bread. Mulla Umar proceeded to break the hard bread with his hands and eat it with the soup. Upon being asked the reasons for his refusal to eat the cream, Mullah Umar said:

"When the lowest person in my country eats this food, then I will eat it."

It was not soup but his fav food....

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

It was not soup but his fav food....

Yeah and what's your favorite, Iranian wannabee?

[Daruish]

Yeah and what's your favorite, Iranian wannabee?

Daal khor you got it wrong...just because i hate you cultureless people do not mean I’m pro-iran....both iran and pakistan are enemy of Afghanistan...both side shed blood of afghans, both want instability and weak Afghanistan. I see no difference between you Pakis and Rafizjee Iranians even though Iranian and I speak my language.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

Daal khor you got it wrong...just because i hate you cultureless people do not mean I’m pro-iran....both iran and pakistan are enemy of Afghanistan...both side shed blood of afghans, both want instability and weak Afghanistan. I see no difference between you Pakis and Rafizjee Iranians even though Iranian and I speak my language.

So why are here then?

Iran ta druma no, warsara Parsi kshe wazhaghezha chi zargai di khwash shi.

De mizh watan prezhda se yaw gharib Paktikawal ta di kor ba derkawam.

[Daruish]

how do we even know this story is true? I remember reading that in some Taliban propaganda like 11 years ago


Then there were pictures of Mullah Omar's house



Not exactly a man who's eating stale bread if he's living in such a nice house.

Here is another view of his mansion....FYI this is after it was destroyed by bombs...





when people of afghaistan were living like this

[khushal]

this is the current governments mansions,







whats the point

[khushal]

this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Here is another view of his mansion....FYI this is after it was destroyed by bombs...





when people of afghaistan were living like this

Thank you so much!!! this basically shatters all the b.s. these Pakistani servants like Khushal and Khyberkhan try to promote.

[randolph85]

i am not a fan of mullah omar but i wouldn't call his home a mansion, seems like a typical afghan compound except for the paintings on the walls. a far cry from the presidential palace in kabul.

there are many legitimate gripes to be leveled at mullah omar but i don't think lavish living is one of them.

[randolph85]

this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.

lets not forget the american bodyguards that were surrounding him 24/7 for a few years after that. truely an embarrassment to the afghan nation to have that as a "leader"

[RevolutionThroughReason]

this is how Karzai came to power, on the backs of foreigners because they did not have any afghans that would fight for them.

Actually the Taliban too were in power on the backs of foreign fighters and foreign support and more over, what actually happened was that the U.S. destroyed Taliban armaments; after which the Local Pashtuns who were no longer under threat of Taliban assaults and intimidation took arms and overthrew the Taliban themselves. So in actuality it was Pashtuns themselves that overthrew the Taliban, fully local and fully willing



source:

http://books.google.com/books?id=WjQfo3a1eVMC&pg=PA873&lpg=PA873&dq=Pashtun+rose+against+Taliban&source=bl&ots=YsL295ImPy&sig=Yzp32FUNpOcwBstpM02rbv2O5vo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rCgGUP6dEsni0QHu_bitCA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Pashtun%20rose%20against%20Taliban&f=false

[khushal]

Actually the Taliban too were in power on the backs of foreign fighters and foreign support and more over, what actually happened was that the U.S. destroyed Taliban armaments; after which the Local Pashtuns who were no longer under threat of Taliban assaults and intimidation took arms and overthrew the Taliban themselves. So in actuality it was Pashtuns themselves that overthrew the Taliban, fully local and fully willing



source:

http://books.google.com/books?id=WjQ...aliban&f=false

actually your source does confirm that the the US along with the NA launched military operations against the taliban which confirsm that the NA came to power on the backs of the US military.

Also your source does not confirm that the taliban came to power on the backs of foreigners. You are dishonest to the fullest degree.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

actually your source does confirm that the the US along with the NA launched military operations against the taliban which confirsm that the NA came to power on the backs of the US military.

Also your source does not confirm that the taliban came to power on the backs of foreigners. You are dishonest to the fullest degree.

Ok I didn't deny that though? I am saying that your portrayal is superficial;

a.) the Taliban TOO were in power by foreign support
b.) The U.S. just disabled the Taliban militarily; which lead to Pashtuns themselves uprising against the Taliban; this shows the Taliban weren't locally supported but there by force.