Islami Sharia saves Raymond Davis

[ScimitarXEdge]

Aimal kansi was a cia payed operative himself, had his dad killed, likely by pakis, blew his top off and killed some low level office workers, ran home and the son of pakistan president (a friend of his) gave him up for the 5 mill ransom. Being a pashtoon hero or being a pashtoon was not on his agenda or mind.

We all like our share of conspiracy theories, but calling punjabi taliban being a langley operation is an insult to the 100 million punjabies. Langley wont know what to do with a herd of 10 thousand sheep let alone create the punjabi mindset. If god was given a second chance, I doubt he would be able to mess it up that bad second time around. So please, yes we love our conspiracy theories, but withen reason. You can add a few bits of time travel and space travel on horse (barak) to spice it up but dont stretch it beyond that.

Congratulations Baygham; just the predictable response I would expect from the mentally colonized; you serve your zoo handlers well.

That's quite a large leap; everyone else is a conspiracy theorist but you; A technocratically savvy Institution of a wealthy Capitalist Imperialist Nation well known for it's geopolitical machinations and ventures all over the world, in South America, Eastern Europe, South East Asia who have well documented evidence of funding, training, having chief operatives directing over the ISI, being involved in ISI operations is a "conspiracy theory". The reality is Third World Punjabis outwitted them and they simply has no idea what their creation was doing. the CIA were innocent victims here of course.

But of course, in the world of the mentally colonized, Aimal Kasi just killed low level office workers; even though the U.S. Media themselves called then Spies/Analysts; and Kasi was even a CIA operative, even though there's no documentation of it, had his father killed, and his capture was done with a joint cooperation of the FBI/CIA and ISI. And of course he was Bilal Musharraf's (then President pervez' sons) best friend in the world, even though that too is undocumented, according to the CIA it said that Afghans had lead them to Kasi.

But this isn't a conspiracy theory at all, despite it's undocumented and suspiciously inconsistent nature; it is fact!



No offense sir, but you are royally full of sh*t

[randolph85]

i don't follow. Explain a bit more.

do u not think that whatever he was doing in pakistan was against the interests of muslims and a violation of shariah? u are looking at this in the context of a guy killing 2 guys and thats it instead of him being a cia agent among thousands doing god knows what over there. that in itself is an anti islamic crime.

[ScimitarXEdge]

This guy in mardan, killed his four sisters all shot at point blank, only left his mother alive. Got arrested, the mother went to judge and as the sole heir of the sisters pardoned him. He in turn inherited all the land that the four sisters were demanding from him. No secular american spy was holding a gun to the heads of the judges or the mother. He was let go under sharia law of the land.

Here two million dollars changed hands, 99% of pakistani's including pashtoons will sell their mothers for much less.

Amazingly enough this story is undocumented and not reported in any news, another Anecdotal reference which you ALONE have access to.

[Feroza_Banu]

This guy in mardan, killed his four sisters all shot at point blank, only left his mother alive. Got arrested, the mother went to judge and as the sole heir of the sisters pardoned him. He in turn inherited all the land that the four sisters were demanding from him. No secular american spy was holding a gun to the heads of the judges or the mother. He was let go under sharia law of the land.

Here two million dollars changed hands, 99% of pakistani's including pashtoons will sell their mothers for much less.

Do you know what sharia law means? sharia law is derived from Quran and sunnah (ahadith). can you please back up your claim that the guy was freed because of what sharia says?... a few verses from Quran and ahadith would be nice that shows... killing 4 sisters is pardonable under sharia law...

I am sorry to break it to you , Sharia law does not exist anywhere in its true sense... no government is built under sharia law and there is no place in this world where Sharia law is practiced or implemented... and i doubt if it can ever be practiced to its true sense until the end of times...

Islam is perfect but sadly humans are not!... don't hate Islam, hate the ones that misuse it.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Actually speaking in terms of Islamic Shari'ah, Diyyah, is only accepted if the perpetrator is a Muslim. Because Muslims are currently in a state of war with Imperialists, thereby invalidating taking diya.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Do you know what sharia law means? sharia law is derived from Quran and sunnah (ahadith). can you please back up your claim that the guy was freed because of what sharia says?... a few verses from Quran and ahadith would be nice that shows... killing 4 sisters is pardonable under sharia law...

I am sorry to break it to you , Sharia law does not exist anywhere in its true sense... no government is built under sharia law and there is no place in this world where Sharia law is practiced or implemented... and i doubt if it can ever be practiced to its true sense until the end of times...

Islam is perfect but sadly humans are not!... don't hate Islam, hate the ones that misuse it.

Ferzona Banu ....just a little 4-11, Baygham makes up stories to add to feign credence to his arguments.

Watch he'll have no documentation for the story he claimed.

[laevanay]

Amazingly enough this story is undocumented and not reported in any news, another Anecdotal reference which you ALONE have access to.

Why are we all assuming that the family was forced to take money. Also heard that the wife of one of the guys committed suicide because she was asked to marry the younger brother of her dead husband.....

[roadrunner]

The isi agents threaten the victims ,s family to accept the offer.
It was the dirty punjabistani govt not the ,,sharia,,
Try something good to blame sharia this one would,nt work..
The so called civilised and democratic govt of USA never respect others and their law.
Pakistani govt is their pupet or i should say like a prostitute.
They have no honour.Pay the paki leaders,Generals , isi and have fun in their homes .
The saudis are scared of iran and wants the US to save their so called saudi kingdom.
So it is not wise to blame sharia here.

This is not true.

Pakistan has two sets of law. One is the secular law, the other is the Sharia Law.

The case, if tried under Secular law would have resulted in imprisonment.

But because Sharia Law exists in Pakistan, the offender got off free.

[roadrunner]

do u not think that whatever he was doing in pakistan was against the interests of muslims and a violation of shariah? u are looking at this in the context of a guy killing 2 guys and thats it instead of him being a cia agent among thousands doing god knows what over there. that in itself is an anti islamic crime.

Sure. But you need proof that he was doing it. You can't just convict without proof.

We DO know he killed 2 men. For that punishment is prison by secular law. No other option.

Sharia law says prison also, but gives the option of letting him go free if he's rich enough. This was his legal escape.

You do know that both secular AND sharia law exists in Pakistan don't you?

[laevanay]

why were the guys following RD?

[faye]

the suspense is killing me. tell us.

[Baygham]

Amazingly enough this story is undocumented and not reported in any news, another Anecdotal reference which you ALONE have access to.

Heirs pardon killer father under Qisas law

Heirs pardon killer father under Qisas law

Author: Rafaqat Ali
Publication: Daily Dawn
Date: July 27, 2002
Zakir Hussain Shah, a resident of Bara Kau locality who had murdered his daughter last month, will be absolved of the charge as his wife and son in their capacity as legal heirs of the deceased have agreed to pardon him under the Qisas and Diyat law.

The Qisas and Diyat law, which was enforced in 1990 on the insistence of the then chief justice Mohammad Afzal Zullah, is being massively abused. Under the law, murdering a family member virtually carries no punishment as the other family members have the right to pardon the killer.

The Qisas law has changed the nature of the crime. Before the introduction of this law, murdering a person was crime against the state but now it is against the person. The heirs have powers to pardon the murderer.

Zakir had slit the throat of 18-year-old Sabiha on June 26 at Dhoke Khayam on suspicion that she had become pregnant. The matter was reported to the Bara Kau police by her maternal uncle, Ibrar Hussain Shah. Ibrar had stated that Zakir had murdered Sabiha after tying her with charpoy.

Zakir disappeared from the scene with the knife and later obtained pre-arrest bail from the sessions court of Islamabad. He has since returned home and is now living with his wife and son. He had submitted a compromise deed on behalf of his wife and son.

The police presented the challan in the court of the district and sessions judge, and the case is slated to be taken up on Saturday. The court would have no option except to verify from the heirs whether they had pardoned him or not. If the response is in affirmative, the matter ends there and the murderer father would be a free man like he was one month back.

The main argument for the enforcement of the Qisas law was that it would have deterrence effects on society and the homicide would decrease.

Twelve years after its enforcement, the law is being misused to the extent that people now commit homicide with impunity, especially in family.

Justice Munir A. Sheikh, senior puisne judge of the Supreme Court, has been observing time and again that after the introduction of the Qisas law, the crime rate has increased. Recently, he asked Jamaat-i-Islami lawyers during the course of Riba case to state whether the murders had decreased. When the counsel had no answer, Justice Sheikh said his experience as a judge of the high court and the apex court was that now people murdered with impunity.

In another case, a had killed his four sisters in Mardan when they demanded share in the ancestral property. The mother, who was the legal heir of the deceased girls, pardoned the son and the case ended then and there. Similarly, a man in Sargodha opened fire on his family members, resulting in death of his two daughters. His wife and other daughters, wounded in the shooting, pardoned the murderer as they were the legal heirs of the deceased.

[Baygham]

Do you know what sharia law means? sharia law is derived from Quran and sunnah (ahadith). can you please back up your claim that the guy was freed because of what sharia says?... a few verses from Quran and ahadith would be nice that shows... killing 4 sisters is pardonable under sharia law...

I am sorry to break it to you , Sharia law does not exist anywhere in its true sense... no government is built under sharia law and there is no place in this world where Sharia law is practiced or implemented... and i doubt if it can ever be practiced to its true sense until the end of times...

Islam is perfect but sadly humans are not!... don't hate Islam, hate the ones that misuse it.

read above, that is what happens under sharia, if you know more than the hundred thousand ulema's in pakistan, than well, you must be reading another version of the Quran and I would recommend sending them a copy so they make the adjustments to this heinous law under sharia.

This law is 100% according to quran and sunnah, per the ulema in pakistan, ask any in afghanistan about this case and if they say that it was unislamic than we can have the two meet.

[Baygham]

Congratulations Baygham; just the predictable response I would expect from the mentally colonized; you serve your zoo handlers well.

That's quite a large leap; everyone else is a conspiracy theorist but you; A technocratically savvy Institution of a wealthy Capitalist Imperialist Nation well known for it's geopolitical machinations and ventures all over the world, in South America, Eastern Europe, South East Asia who have well documented evidence of funding, training, having chief operatives directing over the ISI, being involved in ISI operations is a "conspiracy theory". The reality is Third World Punjabis outwitted them and they simply has no idea what their creation was doing. the CIA were innocent victims here of course.

But of course, in the world of the mentally colonized, Aimal Kasi just killed low level office workers; even though the U.S. Media themselves called then Spies/Analysts; and Kasi was even a CIA operative, even though there's no documentation of it, had his father killed, and his capture was done with a joint cooperation of the FBI/CIA and ISI. And of course he was Bilal Musharraf's (then President pervez' sons) best friend in the world, even though that too is undocumented, according to the CIA it said that Afghans had lead them to Kasi.

But this isn't a conspiracy theory at all, despite it's undocumented and suspiciously inconsistent nature; it is fact!



No offense sir, but you are royally full of sh*t

Not musharraf, it was Farooq laghari's son, he lured him to come hunting with him. 2 million is a lot of money.

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Read his CIA contacts here:Mir Aimal Kansi The Most Wanted Man on the FBI list, Arrested

I am sure I can find a reference for his father's death as well. Its a pretty notorious story of the 90's, every one knew it in pakistan.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I commend you for actually FINALLY backing up your stories

regardless one backed up story doesn't justified unsupported ones.

Your own CIA paramours are saying it was an Afghan; why contradict the official story, you don't want to be a conspiracy theorist now do you?

http://www.subcontinent.com/research..._06_001_s.html

Mir Aimal Kansi The Most Wanted Man on the FBI list, Arrested

SAPRA Research Bureau
30 June 1997

"After a four-and-a-half-year manhunt that reached from Washington`s suburbs to Afghanistan`s deserts, the suspect, Mir Amal Kansi, a 33-year-old Pakistani,was handed over by "Afghan individuals" after the United States had placed a $2 million reward on his head, the FBI said on Tuesday night (17 June 1997). Government officials refused to say whether the money had been paid to the Afghans or how they had captured the suspect".