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  • #46
    Mullah Omar is a product of all the wars instigated by FOREIGNERS on Afghanistan over the centuries, Torabanana. Religious conservatism gives people living in crapholes in the west, hope. In war torn countries it does the same. It gives hope.

    Pol Pot did not give any hope.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by roadrunner View Post
      Mullah Omar is a product of all the wars instigated by FOREIGNERS on Afghanistan over the centuries, Torabanana. Religious conservatism gives people living in crapholes in the west, hope. In war torn countries it does the same. It gives hope.

      Pol Pot did not give any hope.
      roadrunner, you are right...looking at the fanaticism afflicting this board, I get disappointed sometimes but then I think it may be due to people alienation (especially of Pashtuns).

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
        Ok, then you can happily leave and live in the state of monkeys/apes....at least this Western society would get rid off some unwanted stuff....

        All of the great personalities you have listed above are better than your lunatic, deranged Mullah Omar although I am not their follower...They gave at least something to their societies contrary to those that keep their fellows in the fantasy of 72 hoors and a lot of ghilmans....
        i love how u think u are a respected member of western society when all u are to them is their lil brown friend, and even maybe a prospective translator in their war theaters. all u are is a tax payer and a number to ur sugar daddies.

        and u can drop the mullah omar stuff. i am not a follower nor a fan of his. referencing my mention of murderous secular leaders and following it with a "at least they..." in order to somehow tell me off isnt exactly helping whatever argument it is that u are trying to make.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #49
          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
          i love how u think u are a respected member of western society when all u are to them is their lil brown friend, and even maybe a prospective translator in their war theaters. all u are is a tax payer and a number to ur sugar daddies.

          and u can drop the mullah omar stuff. i am not a follower nor a fan of his. referencing my mention of murderous secular leaders and following it with a "at least they..." in order to somehow tell me off isnt exactly helping whatever argument it is that u are trying to make.
          No, I am not some under-achieved Muslim immigrant giving Islamist massage to my inferiority complex and the hurt ego and exulting in the fantasy of 72 hoors and a handful of ghilmans (for my women-folk) or am existing in an imaginary world of cancubines, harems, etc...I work hard and am positive about life and other human beings like millions of non-Muslim immigrants around the world...so get my respect...thanks a lot...
          Last edited by Toramana; 03-12-2011, 12:15 AM.

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          • #50
            u of all people accusing muslims of an inferiority complex? thats like a black guy calling someone a n gger. u and many like u have the "if u cant beat em join em" outlook on life. i know life must be difficult for u, and u are between 2 societies, none of which will ever accept u as their own. first u have pashtuns who will never accept u because of ur disbelief, and then u have americans who will always consider u as an outsider and cant pronounce ur name correctly.
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • #51
              Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
              u of all people accusing muslims of an inferiority complex? thats like a black guy calling someone a n gger. u and many like u have the "if u cant beat em join em" outlook on life.
              I find this quite ridiculous. Just because some people do appear happy in a secular society, does not mean they "joined em" as a compromise. They're just happy to be there. Whether it's secular or not, makes no difference I bet.

              Torabanana is correct, much as it pains me to side with him.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by roadrunner View Post
                Nobody wants to live under religious maniacs. But when society is plundered by lots of war, conservative religion takes hold. It is similar to the dumps where conservative Muslims live in the West.

                End the wars in Afghanistan, the religious maniacs will slowly go away.

                Afghanistan needs an end to war, and investment to take place (it is a rich country).
                The religious maniacs were imposed and supported by the secular maniacs. As long as interests exist then there will be some maniac that will do anything possible to gain those interests. Ending wars is a good thing but it is very difficult when too many interests clash in a place where the people are fiercely independent.

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                • #53
                  This thread has really made evident that Mentally colonized, slaves of Imperialist who idealize secularism, are essentially braindead fools who have been psychologically lobotomized and indoctrinated, dont have the slightest clue about logical coherence and live an existence completely out of touch with realty . An inferiority complex means a feeling a feeling of inadequacy. Muslims believing in the fortitude of Islam is the exact opposite of an inferiority complex; hence the claim is just logically nonsensical. To begin with.

                  It is people who idealize Secularism who fit the mold of having an Inferiority complex to a T. Their entire belief system is centered around the idea that the inadequacy and deficiency of their own attributes and faculties on account that it doesnt fit the standards of mainstream Secular cultures; which is pure asinine circular reasoning.

                  Take a look at their views themselves as proof: They believe "their" culture needs to be modified or that Islam has to be abandoned/reformed/diluted to match up with/accommodate for secular oligarchy/imperialist standards on account of secular culture operating on a lifestyle of heavy material over consumption, wastefulness, destructive patterns of behavior which is labeled is being labeled, shallowness and materialism, pretentiously being labeled "Productivity". The fact this paradigm has absolutely no evidence that it holds any intrinsic validity, but rather evidence of being globally detrimental, that this frame of thinking is nothing but imperially imposed nonsense.Regardless of how they try to reword or reframe the idea; They are in fact as someone else said " if we can't beat them we'll join" them and surrender themselves subserviently like good little colonized lemmings.


                  Most of them are so irrational and contradictory they'll say pure garbage like "we're against all imperialism", which is only disingenuous lip service because their entire Idealization of Secularism is a Product of Imperialism; what they're really trying to do with such rhetoric is attempt to forge a wedge against Islam, on one hand trying to stimulate a psychological stigma of adequacy in regards to being Muslims and following Islam and on the other hand portraying any attempt to improve Muslims by restoring Islamic rule as some sort of Imperialism by Arabs, just as European Imperialists had originally done to them. But everyone knows this is a classic Imperialist "divide and rule" scheme; trying to pit one group against the other so that Muslims never reuinite and work together and help each other in cooperation under a unified cause of Islam.

                  What's more telling is they'll talk about resisting Imperialism; but They expose their own subservience by Advocating Roman Script for Pashto. But just so their agenda doesn't seem obvious they'll feign legitimacy by also advocating some Mythified "Authentic" Pashto script called "Kharoshti" ; if anyone does any research, Kharoshti is actually a variation of Aramaic, not even native to Pashtuns, furthermore there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF PASHTO written in KHAROSHTI SCRIPT!!!! The Logical among us will naturally ask How can we go back to a script that Pashto was never written in? The answer is we don't Their real agenda of Imposing Roman Script. We won't get into how the entire venture is nonsense in this thread.

                  All these popular theatrical phrases like "extremists" when it comes to Hijabs or Niqabs and using manufactured Materialistic standards to measure Progress or Competency are all apart of that mix too. They'll either try to link hijabs/niqabs with extremism, and or do an even more goofy act of clownery conflate deranged acts like suicide attacks with Niqabs/Hijabs. The rhetoric from this lot gets more ridiculous and illogical as days go on.
                  Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-13-2011, 08:55 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                    This thread has really made evident that Mentally colonized, slaves of Imperialist who idealize secularism, are essentially braindead fools who have been psychologically lobotomized and indoctrinated, and dont have the slightest clue about logical coherence and live an existence completely out of touch with realty.
                    Someone sig this now!

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                    • #55
                      Mr Edge, when your Arab imperialists came to Asia, they enforced their religion upon the locals. Your socialistic character is void, when you have a inner-Imperialistic side to yourself, that being you are begging us to accept that Arabs and Pashtuns are racially the same, no thank you.

                      When your Arab Imperialistics enter out of their homes, they conquer,massacred,forced conversions, took otehr peoples women as war booty, I am Afraid, Most Non Arab Muslim countries are Colonised by people such as you.

                      Do not worry, I hope the day comes, when nobody gives two tosses about Arab legends and icons of the past.

                      I find you absolutely biased, we all know, its been well documented, that Arab Muslims were the biggest contributors to the Internation Slave trade than any white person or Jew.

                      We all know, how slaves especially the pretty ones were raped and sexualised in those Harems of yours. We know about Rayhana and what happened to her male members of her tribe in Arabia.

                      We know very well, you can fool a few here, but the whole world and history knows, Arabs were very famous for one thing, that is Slavery! Before you speak of others being colonised with Colonised mindsets, I suggest you take a good look at your Arabs in the past and how they colonised half of the world under the banner of Religion.

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                      • #56
                        Plus Mr Edge

                        It was only in 1970's when Saudi Arabia abolished the laws of Slavery, by American Pressure. While the world abolished Slavery centuries ago, your capital of Arabia, still practiced it. Goes to show Colonising eh!

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                        • #57
                          People ......keenly observe the mentally colonized slaves of Imperialists reply to what I posted and compare it to the described characteristics I wrote about; their actions were predicted to a T, like they mimicked everything from a script, with tactics like that there's definitely evidence that they're not working for Pashtuns; but for Imperialists.

                          observe;

                          Mr Edge, when your Arab imperialists came to Asia, they enforced their religion upon the locals.

                          now relate this back to what I wrote previously;

                          what they're really trying to do with such rhetoric is attempt to forge a wedge against Islam, on one hand trying to stimulate a psychological stigma of inadequacy in regards to being Muslims and following Islam and on the other hand portraying any attempt to improve Muslims by restoring Islamic rule as some sort of Imperialism by Arabs, just as European Imperialists had originally done to them. But everyone knows this is a classic Imperialist "divide and rule" scheme; trying to pit one group against the other so that Muslims never reuinite and work together and help each other in cooperation under a unified cause of Islam.
                          we can easily see the Propaganda Technique these Mentally Colonized slaves who idealize Secularism employ; First notice how they say "Arabs came to Asia" to make it appear that somehow Arabs were some external non-Asiatic peoples. Middle East is apart of Southwest Asia, those Arabs that came were Asiatic. Notice how they try to distort facts to create a false picture for the European Imperial agenda of keeping Muslims divided. Another technique in the Colonized mindset is to exonerate imperialism and divert focus on Imperialist created red herring. Observe the one of Mentally Colonized's other remarks

                          It was only in 1970's when Saudi Arabia abolished the laws of Slavery, by American Pressure. While the world abolished Slavery centuries ago
                          The slave of Imperialism is trying to use emotional blackmail of referencing Saudi Arabia; even though Pan-Islam and most Islamic Movements identify Saudi Arabia as a puppet state and product of Imperialism. They use Saudi Arabia as a smokescreen to divert attention away. While at the same time; they try to white wash the Imperialists;

                          As we all should know by now,Slavery Still eixsts in America; it's just more disguised so that the GOvernment officials can take more kick backs and exploit these people for themselves.

                          'Slavery still exists in modern America'
                          Most Americans are shocked to discover that slavery still exists in the United States. Yet 145 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, the government says 14,500 to 17,000 foreigners are 'trafficked' annually into the United States, threatened with violence, and forced to work against their wil

                          People who idealize secularists/Mentally colonized slaves of Imperialists will never acknowledge this, but they will focus all the attention on Imperialist's puppet Governments like KSA. Next Observe how they will lie and use spin doctor tactiics, this was also done by another Mentally colonized servant of Imperialism/idealizer of secularism. read this page for further details of that debate. http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...73/index8.html

                          The current colonized slave said this.
                          When your Arab Imperialistics enter out of their homes, they conquer,massacred,forced conversions, took otehr peoples women as war booty,

                          But even the Historians of Imperialists themselves know these are lies and spin them for their political Agenda. the mentally colonized slaves' own sources prove them wrong

                          Islam Arabia Before The Prophet

                          led by the Umayyads and other prominent clans, which had little desire to convert the subject populations, either Arab or otherwise, to the new religion. Unaccustomed wealth and political power, which was reflected in the growth of new cities around Arab garrisons and the expansion of older urban centers, were the Arabs' rewards for these startling victories.


                          Most converts were won over peacefully, due to the great appeal of
                          Islamic beliefs and to the considerable advantages they enjoyed over non-Muslim peoples in the empire. Not only were converts exempt from paying the head tax, but greater opportunities were open to them to get advanced schooling and launch careers as administrators, traders, or judges. No group demonstrated the new opportunities open to converts as dramatically as the Persians



                          So we can see the the real Agenda of the Mentally colonized to Favor and manipulate for their Imperal Masters by spin doctoring truth into lies
                          Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-14-2011, 07:16 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Scimitarxedge
                            You should teach in kabul university ,that was a perfect exaplaination.

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                            • #59
                              ^ Good idea for him - after the war is over.

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