Why are Salafis full of so much hate

[randolph85]

I didnt say that, did I?

I believe he can believe what he likes. But when he starts believing he is better than me because of his religious beliefs, my response is

(strong language, 15 rated)

YouTube - The Greatest Movie Quote of all Time[/URL]

so hes wrong for believing in what he does according to u. ur as bad as he is, and by ur own standards.

[roadrunner]

so hes wrong for believing in what he does according to u. ur as bad as he is, and by ur own standards.

He's wrong for believing in supremacism, yes.

That is obvious.

[Toramana]

@Toramana,
your ideas are not practical in pashtun societies. They could possibly work if pashtuns were an urban people, but more than 80% live in rural areas. The people in rural areas are very conservative and despise the west and their ways. Your ideas have been tried many times before(shahshaja amanalahkhan, karmal and others), all those people did was bring misery to the people you love. You have to think of ways that are practical in real life and not in fantasy. Your ideas only bring friction which cause suffering.

Not true about Pukhtunkhwa...we don't want to live under any Mullah Omar, Gulbuddin, Haqqanis, etc. I have no issue you having all these Muslamanans as long as I am not affected...

[roadrunner]

Nobody wants to live under religious maniacs. But when society is plundered by lots of war, conservative religion takes hold. It is similar to the dumps where conservative Muslims live in the West.

End the wars in Afghanistan, the religious maniacs will slowly go away.

Afghanistan needs an end to war, and investment to take place (it is a rich country).

[randolph85]

u say a secular western society is better than an islamic religious one, how does that not make u a supremacist? u believe in the supremacy of ur beliefs just like he does. any person with an ounce of conviction would believe in the supremacy of their beliefs.

[roadrunner]

u say a secular western society is better than an islamic religious one, how does that not make u a supremacist? u believe in the supremacy of ur beliefs just like he does. any person with an ounce of conviction would believe in the supremacy of their beliefs.

No I'm not a supremacist. I believe society would be better off if it were less poor. Does that make me a supremacist? No.

I believe that a richer society would cause conservative Islam to wither away because all I see are backward conservative men and women in low class messed up areas in the west.

If i believed that I was better than you because I believe the stars are made out of cheese, then I would be a supremacist. But having an opinion that one society is better than another is not supremacist in the same way.

[randolph85]

supremacist [sʊˈprɛməsɪst sjʊ-]n a person who promotes or advocates the supremacy of any particular group

adj characterized by belief in the supremacy of any particular groupsupremacism , suprematism n

[Toramana]

u say a secular western society is better than an islamic religious one, how does that not make u a supremacist? u believe in the supremacy of ur beliefs just like he does. any person with an ounce of conviction would believe in the supremacy of their beliefs.

If that were not true and the Western country you are living in were also ruled by religious maniacs like your Mullah Omar, you would long ago have been dispatched to Kandahar to live in the purity of your sacred Islamist state....Now you should thank secularism that allows you to spit venum in the same plate you are eating from and talk against the very ideology that has given you this liberty in the first place...

Imagine, if you were living in the state of Mullah Omar, would you have dared speak against his Islamist model...? That is the difference. Secularim means don't bring Islam in matters of governance....

Also remebers monkeys/apes cannot create things like Internet you are using as something for granted....

[roadrunner]

supremacist [sʊˈprɛməsɪst sjʊ-]n a person who promotes or advocates the supremacy of any particular group

adj characterized by belief in the supremacy of any particular groupsupremacism , suprematism n

it refers to individuals, not societies.

[Toramana]

No I'm not a supremacist. I believe society would be better off if it were less poor. Does that make me a supremacist? No.

I believe that a richer society would cause conservative Islam to wither away because all I see are backward conservative men and women in low class messed up areas in the west.

If I believed that I was better than you because I believe the stars are made out of cheese, then I would be a supremacist. But having an opinion that one society is better than another is not supremacist in the same way.

You are calling me supramacist whereas you worship your Pakeezstan like a kaabba and think of your Jin-nah as more of a prophet...come on.

[graveyardofempires]

roadrunner and toramana are getting nervous
please stop the debate

[randolph85]

If that were not true and the Western country you are living in were also ruled by religious maniacs like your Mullah Omar, you would long ago have been dispatched to Kandahar to live in the Islamist purity of your sacred Islamist state....Now you should thank secularism that allows you to spit venum in the same pot you are eating from and talk against the very ideology that has given you liberty in the first place...

Imagine, if you were living in the state of Mullah Omar, would you have dared spoken against his Islamist model...? That is the difference. Secularim means don't bring Islam in matter of governance....

my mullah omar? as opposed to your mao/stalin/kim jong il/mubarak?

[roadrunner]

You are calling me supramacist whereas you worship your Pakeezstan like a kaabba and think of your Jin-nah as more of a prophet...come on.

i didnt call you a supremacist.

i don't worship any of the things you claim i do.

do you have reading problems?

[randolph85]

and what is this liberty u speak of? i live the same way i would if i lived in a state ruled by shariah. this liberty of urs is just a license for excess.

[Toramana]

and what is this liberty u speak of? i live the same way i would if i lived in a state ruled by shariah. this liberty of urs is just a license for excess.

Ok, then you can happily leave and live in the state of monkeys/apes....at least this Western society would get rid off some unwanted stuff....

All of the great personalities you have listed above are better than your lunatic, deranged Mullah Omar although I am not their follower...They gave at least something to their societies contrary to those that keep their fellows in the fantasy of 72 hoors and a lot of ghilmans....