Canadian Muslim professor: 'If you want sharia law, go back to the hellhole country

[Mujib]

i would like to spend more time in a muslim country myself. i already have my belief system that serves me well but i have a good rapport with muslims, in the flesh, but not always on a forum.

Maintain your relations with Muslims in the flesh and avoid heated debates on forums, especially political debates. And avoid websites like those suggested to you in the earlier post.

Islam is a religion of peace; it establishes peace within the hearts of individuals and within societies. Muslims want peace and good for all people.

[faye]

so what religion are you, lech_walesa, if you don't mind me asking?

[faye]

i have been looking for the meanings to words ie; islam-peace, submission.
muslim; person who submits to the will of god.
like i said to maiwand, all good in theory, then it gets derailed, mujib.

[Lech_Walesa]

Maintain your relations with Muslims in the flesh and avoid heated debates on forums, especially political debates. And avoid websites like those suggested to you in the earlier post.

Islam is a religion of peace; it establishes peace within the hearts of individuals and within societies. Muslims want peace and good for all people.

Dear Mujib.

I would like to disagree with your comment here. I find it quite typical of you to suggest to others to avoid debates, are you abit insecure of the public seeing the truth of Religion as a whole?

I mean, You guys (Pirs) are very good at making yourselves look peaceful but you guys openly praise assassins who kill unarmed outspoken politicians such as Salman Taseeer.

Not just this, you call for a innocent Christian Pakistani to be hung in public even though the poor women complain of mistreatment in june 2009 but due to a constant hatred towards Christians in Pakistan was lied about and brought to one of your "peaceful religionous courts".

Faye, Mujib and his sect is suppose to be the most tolarant of them all, but from this picture here can you see the kind and peaceful tolarance they have



Where in this world would you see the police and public wrap flowers over a killer and justify it with some Religionous context?

Mujib, all Salman Taseer stated was the law was Black Law and he got 20 or so bullets in return.

Talk about peaceful eh!

[Mujib]

The words of Mohammad are contradicted by every school of thought as his words are written by man not himself as he could not read or write plus there is the question of why his words were written 300/200 years after his death.

False and false. And it is also false, good friend, that most Muslims "hardly" follow Islam.

You should learn what Islam is from traditional Muslim sources, not from anti-Islamic polemicists.

By blindly attacking Islam you are showing the traits of the very extremists you oppose. And you encourage the very treatment of which you complain.

[Lech_Walesa]

i have been looking for the meanings to words ie; islam-peace, submission.
muslim; person who submits to the will of god.
like i said to maiwand, all good in theory, then it gets derailed, mujib.

Faye, Islam is like any other Religion. Its a Abrahmic Religon. It has practices taken from the ancient Israelites i.e Stoning people to death, it has many other aspect such as claiming Jesus was a Muslim and then Islamifying past history to claim that they were all Muslims.

We as part of mankind do not need Religion to teach us about Morals, we have a conscience for that.

Bin Laden says a Muslim can kill Civilians, a Christian says Jews are all evil and must be expelled, Jews say they are the chosen ones and the rest are evil gentiles, well, one's conscience may say oh wait, this is wrong because its wrong to kill civilians, its wrong to hate Jews and its wrong to claim to be the chosen ones and the rest unimportant, if in a relgionous context, you would be going against god, which is a sin and you would be punished for following your conscience.

[faye]

hey, don't start sandwiching me in between your anger and what someone else says. i get what mujib is saying. now you are doing what you are accusing others of. by avoiding heated debates i will keep my peace.

[graveyardofempires]

Faye, Islam is like any other Religion. Its a Abrahmic Religon. It has practices taken from the ancient Israelites i.e Stoning people to death, it has many other aspect such as claiming Jesus was a Muslim and then Islamifying past history to claim that they were all Muslims.

We as part of mankind do not need Religion to teach us about Morals, we have a conscience for that.

Bin Laden says a Muslim can kill Civilians, a Christian says Jews are all evil and must be expelled, Jews say they are the chosen ones and the rest are evil gentiles, well, one's conscience may say oh wait, this is wrong because its wrong to kill civilians, its wrong to hate Jews and its wrong to claim to be the chosen ones and the rest unimportant, if in a relgionous context, you would be going against god, which is a sin and you would be punished for following your conscience.

you should be banned for being disrespectful towards religious people.

i,ll report you right away

[Mujib]

i have been looking for the meanings to words ie; islam-peace, submission.

An excellent introduction: Islam: Religion of Life.

The agenda of Islamophobic polemicists is clear (though they might present a different face now and then). Avoid them and other extremists altogether.

[faye]

it's ok. i'm a well travelled, well read, 62 year old. i think i've got it sorted.

[Lech_Walesa]

it's ok. i'm a well travelled, well read, 62 year old. i think i've got it sorted.

Sorry, I ment no harm.

If you didnt know, that holding onto a British.EU.American Passport will get you respect in the Muslim world, try holding onto a Pakistani or Indian passport in Dubai and lets see if they even care if you get run over or get your wages paid on time let alone being paid 1/4 of your salery after 8 months of hard labour.

I will leave this topic alone for your sake.

[faye]

i am well versed in the injustices of this world and it is not a one way street.

[ScimitarXEdge]

this was actually supposed to got to another thread but....
scimitarx. your hatred of the pink faced yellow haired, is in itself, a wallowing. it has you blind to positives and you are preaching from hatred. if you want to educate from hatred you are not being a logical and rational being.
there are a lot of us so called, pinkies ( i noticed we have become pink since your own photo makes you look so white) who also think 'the system" sucks and there are a lot of us who have the heart to actually care what happens to others.
i personally love being in muslim countries that allow me the freedom to be there and to enjoy the people, food and country ie; malaysia. my next trip i would like to go to morrocco and spain.
that still doesn't answer the question about the people, in afghanistan, on the ground, whilst you are saving the planet, in comfort and relative freedom.

Faye with all due respect; you're giving the Uncle Tom/House slave contingent a feeling of validation, you're not helping.

I understand you're hurt by my reference of pink faced and yellow haired, since I realize they're epithets of Northern European identity. However you're wrong in assuming it's born out of hatred, and it' is in fact completly rational.

As a person of the East, I see the standard of the Pink Faced Yellow Haired being pushed on us as an ideal of progress to which we're told we must be subservient to as a destructive concept. The use of such a mnemonic is merely to highlight to other peoples of the East who suffer this anxiety of the Gorilla that this is not a gorilla but a baboon and that if you know how to take it down, it's much ado about nothing. It's highly rational and logical; it's just you only comprehend things from the superficial level because terms like pink faced baboon sting, it's understandable why it stings you, and I'm sorry that it does. But to me it's not understandable why it stings House Slave/Uncle Tom Baygham.

inferiority complex afflicted individuals such as Baygham who suffer a psychological angst of self hatred and desperation to efface all that is meritable merely to gain the acceptance and pity of the "Gorilla" he lives in fear of, if he realizes the gorilla is a baboon maybe he has a chance to regain his senses and awaken from this hallucination.

Believe me there's a very sound method here, where logic and reason fail to reach Baygham, a clever mnemonic of pink faced baboon, rocks the pillars of his conscience or lack there of. Psy-Ops is what's at play here.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Faye, Islam is like any other Religion. Its a Abrahmic Religon. It has practices taken from the ancient Israelites i.e Stoning people to death, it has many other aspect such as claiming Jesus was a Muslim and then Islamifying past history to claim that they were all Muslims.

We as part of mankind do not need Religion to teach us about Morals, we have a conscience for that.

Bin Laden says a Muslim can kill Civilians, a Christian says Jews are all evil and must be expelled, Jews say they are the chosen ones and the rest are evil gentiles, well, one's conscience may say oh wait, this is wrong because its wrong to kill civilians, its wrong to hate Jews and its wrong to claim to be the chosen ones and the rest unimportant, if in a relgionous context, you would be going against god, which is a sin and you would be punished for following your conscience.

Notice , you didn't say Islam says Muslims can kill civilians, only Bin Laden, I think your own rhetoric unveils your own error in your logic and reasoning.

if you understand conscience, you'll see how it leads to Islaam, you just need the logical tools to come to that convergence.

[faye]

scimitarx...

don't try your silly little mind games on me please. have a bit more respect, for yourself as well as me. i am amused by your racism. you seem to be more conditioned in a western mindset than myself. you like to go on about how everyone is brainwashed but you
so please stop pinning your little badges on to who you think i am and what i stand for. because you are wrong and you are wrong because your mind is not open enough to comprehend someone who has not bought into the conditioning crap. i am a lucky person. i was given a lot of freedom and taught to question EVERYTHING

Faye with all due respect; you're giving the Uncle Tom/House slave contingent a feeling of validation, you're not helping.

I understand you're hurt by my reference of pink faced and yellow haired, since I realize they're epithets of Northern European identity. However you're wrong in assuming it's born out of hatred, and it' is in fact completly rational.

As a person of the East, I see the standard of the Pink Faced Yellow Haired being pushed on us as an ideal of progress to which we're told we must be subservient to as a destructive concept. The use of such a mnemonic is merely to highlight to other peoples of the East who suffer this anxiety of the Gorilla that this is not a gorilla but a baboon and that if you know how to take it down, it's much ado about nothing. It's highly rational and logical; it's just you only comprehend things from the superficial level because terms like pink faced baboon sting, it's understandable why it stings you, and I'm sorry that it does. But to me it's not understandable why it stings House Slave/Uncle Tom Baygham.

inferiority complex afflicted individuals such as Baygham who suffer a psychological angst of self hatred and desperation to efface all that is meritable merely to gain the acceptance and pity of the "Gorilla" he lives in fear of, if he realizes the gorilla is a baboon maybe he has a chance to regain his senses and awaken from this hallucination.

Believe me there's a very sound method here, where logic and reason fail to reach Baygham, a clever mnemonic of pink faced baboon, rocks the pillars of his conscience or lack there of. Psy-Ops is what's at play here.