Hazrat Khalid Ibni Walid the Sword of Allah

[Dreamer]

no all uve done is shown that ur hero is guilty of what has been stated since u have failed to clear him

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

JEDDAH, 5 June 2005 — To some, it’s an unthinkable act; for others, it’s better than loneliness, but in what is otherwise a conservative culture, misyar marriage goes against the grain.

Misyar marriage is a legal alternative marital arrangement more Saudi men and women are using to offset prohibitive marriage costs and the stigma unmarried women face.

In a misyar marriage the woman waives some of the rights she would enjoy in a normal marriage. Most misyar brides don’t change their residences but pursue marriage on a visitation basis. Some marriage officials say seven of 10 marriage contracts they conduct are misyar, and in some cases are asked to recommend prospective misyar partners.

Most of the women opting for misyar either are divorced, widowed or beyond the customary marriage age. The majority of men who take part in such marital arrangements are already married.

Most of the women respondents called it “legal prostitution” or objected to the lack of women’s rights in misyar marriages.
Misyar Marriage — a Marvel or Misery?

Now this is the real "legal prostitution" and your imams in Saudia are happily practicing it. How do you feel about this esopxi? Let me guess, this is very moral and ethical thing to do and very "Pashtun" thing to do eh? ignoramus.

[Dreamer]

bro seriously! ur on fire! anyway lets get back 2 the topic at hand

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

I am off! But I will be back to respond to these murtads bashing Shia Islam. Fahad and esapzi I invite you to denounce moavia son of sufyan son of hurm (LA) (may Allah's curse be upon them) and chose Ali(AS) as your leader (Imam) and accept Islam, the real Islam.
Sincerely,
Your well wisher LOL

[Fahd]

^bye good night :p ahhahaha hmm still want u talk about anal and shiite allowed it !!

[Dreamer]

^grow up^

[Fahd]

Refuting the argument that Khalid ibn Al Waleed killed Maalik ibn Nuwayra and took his wife ...

Khalid ibn al-Walid killed Malik bin Nouira Sabra and edematous on his wife

Entered in the same night. Omar was said to Khalid: "O enemy of God bless the man who killed a Muslim and then Nzot to his wife, and God Orjmenk stones, but Abu Bakr defended him and said Wahba, Omar, interpreted Vokto Farfa tongue of Khaled».

Ignores the Shiites «The owner called the immortal Ben Nouira Vonnbh on what was to follow him Sjah, and to prevent Zakat and said: Did you not know it the presumption of prayer? Maalik said: The claim that he speak, he said: Is it our friend and not Besahbk? O reciprocating hit his neck, hitting the neck »(the date of al-Tabari, 2 / 273 Date Ibn ether 2 / 217 the starting and ending 6 / 326).

It Amadgat Tijani saying «There has been a betrayal of historians, the immortal, the owner and his companions». Can ask the owners of Shia fundamentalism What is the value «narrated by historians» in the art of the wound and the amendment?
While the wound was found in history and we must accept the necessary proof of the establishment of a Jewish sect Raafidi hands. And had to Ngerh out of Shia Islam in history. Because history has shown the Jewish Abdullah bin Saba as the founder and principal of the doctrine of Shi'ism.

The novel is then adopted by Tijani, which claims that the immortal wanted to kill the owner of Ben Nouira because his wife is not worthless and Nkartha Cdhuzha has attributed Tijani margin on the following references (the date of redemption means father start and end date of Yacoubi and mortality objects). When reviewing some of these references is clear for each researcher on the right is a breach of Tijani in transport, if we reviewed the book (and deaths of objects) to the son Khalkaan in the News of the death of the owner found it provides a story contrary to what reported by Tijani Khalkaan's son told the story as follows «When he emerged Khalid bin Walid may with him to fight in the caliphate of Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him down the owner of which was built by his people has taken Erbua zakaah and disposal, Khalid word meaning, Maalik said: "I come to pray without Zakat, Khalid said to him: As I learned that prayer, almsgiving together, not accept one without the other, said the owner: You may say that he was a friend, "said Khaled: And you see the authors? God has interested to give your neck, and then to speak in long Tjola said to him, Khalid: I Qatlk, he said, commanded you to your friend or so? He said: This is after that? By God, Oguetlink.

It was Abdullah ibn Umar and Abu Qatada Al-Ansari may Allah be pleased with him in the eternal present, the more command, speaking to the idea, said the owner: "O Khalid, Abosna to Abu Bakr Vicu is to govern us, I sent to others who have more than guilty Jermna, said Khalid: Allah does not Oqalni Oqltk, and submit to the Azores Dirar bin al-Asadi hit his neck, he turned to his wife, the owner or complementary, "said Khaled: This that killed me, and she was very beautiful Khalid said to him: but God to kill you have returned from Islam, he said I am the owner of Islam , said Khaled: Ya reciprocating hit his neck, struck his neck ».

The Tijani claims that the immortal arrested his wife Leila and entered by that night and attaches to the user objects and mortality, but when we come back to find the book says «Khalid was arrested with his wife, was told that he had bought from the shade and married, and is said to have attacked three menstrual cycles and then proposed marriage to her she replied to itself» ( mortality objects to Ibn Khalkaan 6 / 14).
Hence we know that the immortal killed Malik bin Nouira believing he is an apostate and that he does not believe in the necessity of Zakat as in the novel that I have mentioned the history books.

His allegation that Umar said Khaled «O enemy of God bless the man who killed a Muslim and then Nzot to his wife, and God Orjmenk stones». The attribution to the date of al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir, Yacoubi and injury, once the review of the history and injury Yacoubi not find this sentence make a difference!
The history of al-Tabari was cited in the novel does not invoke the weak orbit for the son, Hamid, Muhammad ibn Ishaq, ibn Ishaq Vmamed differently in the health (of Mzee Tahdheeb translation No. 5057 and the weak of Aghily translation No. 1578).

And the son, Hamid, Muhammad bin Humaid Bin Jabir Al-Razi is weak, it said Jacob Alsdosi: Many nail polish, and Al-Bukhaari said: Speaking the view, "said Women's: I do not trust, said Aljosjani: bad non-trust doctrine (refine refinement No. 25/102 (5167). And weaknesses Ibn Hajar in approximation (2 / 69 No. (5852).

[Dreamer]

shame that Bukhari relied on rafadies then

[Toramana]

Very interesting discussion. See also the following article.

شبكة أنصار أهل البيت ( Sunni-Shiai Dialogue) lies/deceptions in order to hide Khalid marrying the Widow of Malik
شبكة أنصار أهل البيت ( Sunni-Shiai Dialogue) claims that it is only a fabrication (made by Shias) that Khalid married the widow of Malik. Then it tries to de-authenticate Historic traditions.
Please Note:
1. Firstly ansar.org didn't brought all the Historic Traditions in light (they presented only 3 Historic Traditions and claimed there exist only these 3 traditions).
While reality is this there are more historic traditions which mention this incident.
2. Secondly, according to ALL Sunni Ulama, the standards of "Hadith" could not be applied to "History". This is long discussion and I will deal with it in next post. Insha-Allah.


Evidences of Khalid taking's Malik's Widow as wife
First Tradition:
at-Tabarî— (narrrates from)— as-Sarî ibn Yahyâ— (who narrrates from) — Shu‘ayb ibn Ibrâhîm— (who narrrates from)— Sayf ibn ‘Umar— (who narrrates from)— Sahl (ibn Yûsuf)— (who narrrates from)— Qâsim (ibn Muhammad) and ‘Amr ibn Shu‘ayb, who say...
"Khâlid married Umm Tamîm the daughter of Minhâl, and left her till her clean period ended."
Reference: Târîkh at-Tabarî vol. 2 p. 273 (Dâr al-Kutub al-‘Ilmiyyah, Beirut 1408/1988)

Note:
Here Ansar.Org claimed that this narration is weak due to "Sayf Ibn Umar".
Please keep in mind that "Sayf" was a Nasibi and he created whole Book in order to defend Uthman and Bani Umiyyah.
"Sayf" is labeled weak in "Hadith" but he is accepted in History by Sunni Historians. Just look at Ibn Katheer who narrated a lot lot lot from Sayf in his history book "Al-Badayah wa Al-Nahayah". All other Sunni Historians also narrated heavily from Sayf.
We Shias reject Sayf's self-created fantasy story of Abdullah Ibn Saba and his role, which all is collected in Sayf's book on this Issue. But as far as a hundreds of other Historic Traditions from Sayf are concerned, then they could not be thrown in dustbin as there are Traditios from other transmitters too who are telling the same Incidents.
So, in simple words, both Sunni and Shia Ulama accept those Traditions of Sayf which are also narrated by other Transmitters.
(Note: Sayf if alone in narrating about Role of Abdullah Ibn Saba against Uthman. There is no other Transmitter which reported any kind of Role of Ibn Saba against Uthman. Therefore this fantasy book of Sayf is totally rejected)
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Second Tradition:
at-Tabarî— (narrrates from)— (Muhammad) ibn Humayd (ar-Râzî)— (who narrrates from) — Salamah (ibn al-Fadl ar-Râzî)— (who narrrates from)— Muhammad ibn Ishâq— (who narrrates from)— Talhah ibn ‘Abdillâh ibn ‘Abd ar-Rahmân ibn Abî Bakr— who says that it used to be Abû Bakr as-Siddîq’s instruction to his armies...
"....‘Umar told Khâlid: “You enemy of Allâh! You killed a Muslim man and thereafter took his wife. By Allâh, I will stone you.”
Reference: Târîkh at-Tabarî vol. 2 p. 274
Again Ansar.Org using the weapon of De-Authentication. Therefore they are criticizing Ibn Ishaaq for tadlees.
But biggest problem in Ansar.Org's approach is this that they are once again applying the Standards of "Hadith" upon "History". Ibn Ishaaq has been criticized in "Hadith", but as far as "History" is concerned then he has been deemed authentic by Sunni Authorities (and especially no problem in accepting a Historical Event by him when same thing has been narrated by other sources too.
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3rd Tradition
Ibn Hajar quoted it from a source called ad-Dalâ’il byThâbit ibn Qâsim:
"Khâlid saw the wife of Mâlik ibn Nuwayrah. She was very beautiful. Thereupon Mâlik told his wife, “You have killed me,” meaning that she will be the cause of his death. And so it happened."

Reference: Ibn Hajar al-Asqallani, al-Isâbah vol. 6 p. 37

Note:
During History, lot of books have been lost.
But if we find their references at other places in other books, then it doesn't mean these reports/references have to be thrown into Dustbin while original Sources have been lost in History.
Therefore, even if this book "al-Dalail" by Thabin bin Qasim is non-existant today, but still this reference by Ibn Hajar has weight while this report is authenticated by many other existance Traditions too about Khalid marraige with Malik's Widow.
So, better for Ansar.Org to See this Tradition in light of other Traditions instead of throwing it into dustbin in name of not finding this book today.
Please also note, this incident of Khalid marrying Malik's widow was so much famous and common that none of Sunni Historian rejected it. Therefore Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani also narrated it normally from Thabit bin Qasim without criticizing it in any way. (Perhaps Ansar.Org are the first one in....

http://wilayat.net/index.php?option=...alid-bin-walid

[ScimitarXEdge]

Commentaries do not prove historical events Toramana

Try again.

[ScimitarXEdge]

and Sunnis please don't turn this into some Sunni-Shi'ite battle.

There's negative things about BOTH ideologies; We need to disengage ourselves from both and focus on Pure Islam.

[Michin Khel]

To me as a Pashtun there is no morality in shiaism.

No doubt no Pashtun can send his sister to one-night-stand marriage.

I wonder if mutah is practiced among shia pashtuns of bangash, tori and orakzi.

[KhyberKhan]

i watched shias on youtube in pekhawar beating themselves, i felt sick.

no joke.

[Michin Khel]

Haider bangash has raised interestings points of halala and mishyar nikah, i will read about it.