Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan: “al-Aqsa Is Weeping For Another Ayyubi"

[Catya Sher]

ScimitarXEdge,

You're making the most reasonable arguments.
I have to gently warn you of something!
If you thought Toramana was all over the place in his emotive attacks - you described his modus operandi to a T above ! -
this person is an old old old nemesis of the nice type of person on this Forum who espouses the general type of beliefs you describe.

Without reading any more than the first one I could guess it is the former MiG
returned.
This person cannot rest for a second after each banning!
He returns and tackles the nearest conscientious pro-Islamic type.

I dont remember if you were sparring with him before his last exit.
If so you know what I'm talking about.

If not, you will find out all too soon!

Cheer up, there are some of us like Unknown, me, etc. who will help combat the inane arguments and hostility toward Islam of such types as this one. I'm waiting for a hyena avatar to adorn his username any day now !

So keep that jeweled scimitar with calligraphic verses from the Quran inscribed on it ready for a verbal fight!

[Toramana]

And M16 is very right when he says Islam has to change for the lot of the Muslims to be better...Until Islam undergoes radical transformation through a process of modernication that inculcates democratic attitude, respect for basic human rights, rule of law, rationality, and pluralism in terms tolerance towards ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and sectarian diversity---coupled with human-resource development, socio-political re-organization, and revamping of values, there cannot be a better day for Muslims.

Even then the dream of the utopian Muslim Ummah is impossible of realization...At most that can be achieved is some facade of unity at regional level....The ideological, sectarian, linguistic, cultural, sub-civilizational divide cannot be abridged so simply....How can it be assumed that the economic interests of Malalysia are more aligned with those of the Beduine states than an economically vibrant South East Asia?

Although, the utopia of a Muslim Ummah thing might give a temporary relief to the sense of humulaition of some Muslims in the West who find themselves to be increasingly left behind others in terms of creativity and productivity and overall advancement...and try to irrationally take refuge in the stone age thinking, ways, approaches, and morality of a bygone age...

[ScimitarXEdge]

That sad reality is that there was not anything meritable to respond to because none of my actual points had been addressed but rather certain points taken out of context and a clear emotional reaction when I presented a balanced critique of what happened with the Pashtunistan and Balouchistan causes; I wish there was something to respond to, but clearly goal was agenda based when I was accused of "typical Pakistaniyat" after agreeing with the notion of Pakistani Injustice. That says that theseresponses are ready made rehearsed reactions and not intellectual. Even the arguments you present are typical commentaries of Orientalists and/or situations from imperial divide and rule strategies.

I even stressed that there are meritable aspects of Pashtun Nationalism but because of sold-out individuals who have raped Pashtun Nationalism of it's original pure intentions for a Neo-Imperialist Anti-Muslim agenda, this eventually became tarnished and mired.

Even now all that can done in response is attack my "verbosity" not the actual points that I made.

Everything written from this platform, from this Straw-Man Argument of "Utopia" (something no one claims) and then defining progress by IMperialist/Neocolonialist models of prosperity/success whether by defining things from their environmentally destructive "productivity" or their shallow materialistic "creativity" all reek of just a weak minded feeling of subservience and inferiority complex driven motives.

[ScimitarXEdge]

And M16 is very right when he says Islam has to change for the lot of the Muslims to be better...Until Islam undergoes radical transformation through a process of modernication that inculcates democratic attitude, respect for basic human rights, rule of law, rationality, and pluralism in terms tolerance towards ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and sectarian diversity---coupled with human-resource development, socio-political re-organization, and revamping of values, there cannot be a better day for Muslims.

Even then the dream of the utopian Muslim Ummah is impossible of realization...At most that can be achieved is some facade of unity at regional level....The ideological, sectarian, linguistic, cultural, sub-civilizational divide cannot be abridged so simply....How can it be assumed that the economic interests of Malalysia are more aligned with those of the Beduine states than an economically vibrant South East Asia?

Although, the utopia of a Muslim Ummah thing might give a temporary relief to the sense of humulaition of some Muslims in the West who find themselves to be increasingly left behind others in terms of creativity and productivity and overall advancement...and try to irrationally take refuge in the stone age thinking, ways, approaches, and morality of a bygone age...

I have no problem with the idea of reforming the Muslim community, because the problem is not Islam, but the fact people have not sincerely made an effort to abide by Islamic Principles. It's not Islam that needs change, but peoples attitude of it that does. Islam is beyond superficial representations like beard length, and miswak use. The problem I have is your model of reformation is based on some Manufactured concept of Modernity and not one based on genuine or logical analysis of Human Needs. It contradicts our Anthropological Niche. Your rhetoric is the complete opposite of what it claims to be, and that is rational.

If Muslims coming together is "impossible" for you; then why are you striving so hard to bring Pashtoons together (who are by and large MUSLIMS) and yet have more internal divisions than the average Muslims. The question shows your argument is disingenuous.