The political divide

[Maiwand]

Our heroes are even pure when they become shaheed and go straight to paradise, so we win no matter what. They will loose no matter what. This is the law of Allah (swt).

[شمله ور خراساني]

yeah, ahahha. That is so true. They have all the characteristics of the munafiqs and disbelievers, they look always to their narrow self-interest, without giving any importance to religion, morals, ethics, pride, dignity, ghairat, namoos etc. As long as they get a few Dollars, Roobels or Rupees, they are happy, no matter what they are doing, which regime they are supporting etc.

They are so self interested that they cant even get along with each other. You have Pakistani Pashtun Nationalists attacking the Afghani Pashtun Nationalists.

These people are a joke.

There use to be one of them here, he use to curse the tribes of Afghanistan and praise his own tirbe. Ironically he was the most popular member of this forum untill he got banned.

[Maiwand]

Dont appease and please your enemies. Be just, but dont compromise.

Indeed we should never compromise with our religion. Because Islam is the true religion. They can change their stances, deen (way of life), ideology etc. We have a perfect religion, so we cannot play around with the rules. These kuffaar were even willing to sit with the prophet Mohammad (pbuh), they wanted to compromise with him, but the prophet (pbuh) never compromised with them. And that was the power of Islam. We should never play the game according to their rules, otherwise we will become the next Hamas or Muslim Brotherhood, they will lose in the end. But the Taliban haven't compromised in the least bit, look how powerful they are, mashallah. Today France has announced that it will pull out its troops in the beginning of 2011. They are all begging the Taliban every day to sit at the negotation table. SubhanAllah that is the dignity given by Allah to the mujahideen, who are on the truth and will never compromise on the truth, even when they become Shaheed.sten to this, history is repeating itself:
They wish that you should compromise

[Maiwand]

They are so self interested that they cant even get along with each other. You have Pakistani Pashtun Nationalists attacking the Afghani Pashtun Nationalists.

These people are a joke.

There use to be one of them here, he use to curse the tribes of Afghanistan and praise his own tirbe. Ironically he was the most popular member of this forum untill he got banned.

Yes, subhanAllah, they characteristics remains the same. They haven't changed in the least bit. They same happened with the alliance of the kuffaar at the battle of Al-Ahzaab, it is also stated in the Quran, that the kuffaar alliance seems to be one whole and seems to be strong, but in reality that is not the case, because Shaitan fools them and deceives them, so eventually their coaltion will break and everyone of them chooses for his own self-interest, because that is the underlying motive for every action of them in this world.

[Catya Sher]

Powerful, tough discussion by both of you and Unknown.
Impressive essay by SK which started this all off.

Thanks, you guys, for going to bat against the bad guys, who sound frankly like spoiled brats. Some of them seem like nasty kids one wouldn't care to meet on a playground. Let alone on a Forum supposedly displaying the best qualities of Pashtuns before the world's eyes.
Glad you guys are giving a good name to Afghans.

Like Unknown, I pray these are only a radical fringe of pampered expats. God forbid there are any significant number in Afghanistan or the Tribal Areas.

[Toramana]

Oh, this thread has been destroyed...Could you, people, please start another thread to discuss the fantastic ideas that you wanna shove down our throats.

Catya Sher, it would be more appropriate of you if you would say something about Turk nationalism prospering at the cost of Kurds and other oppressed minorities in Turkey. Or is all the pan-Islamic utopia meant for Pashtuns only ? At least say something about Turkey's very close relations with Isreal and the desperation to jump into the European Union bandwagon as soon as possible.

[Azmal]

Unknownprince,
What about occupation of Old Kafir British Raj Punjab Regiment of Pashtonistan? Do you think we also need liberation from the Kafir British and their successors?

[Shayesta]

Ijaz Yusufzai is the most respected member here he was never attacked shayesta just did not agree with what he said and it was a debate.

Thank you for pointing it out because I wanted to add that I didn't disagree with Ijaz because he wanted Pukhtoon unity, I was in a disagreement with him because he was ridiculing non-Pukhtoon Afghans in order to shout for Pukhtoon unity. And this exactly has been problem of Pukhtoons, we always try to point out flaws of non-Pukhtoon Afghans/Pakistanis in order to make realize one another how important it is for us to unite, but give me a solid point where you mention only Pukhtoons and how Pukhtoon nation can benefit us, not how a non-Pukhtoon nation can harm us. This is one of the reasons why BLS wror has pretty much been the only member with whom I never even needed to start an argument because he knows exactly what Pukhtoon unity means and he knows exactly what's a no-no to talk about when it comes to Pukhtoon unity. He knows where Pukhtoons stand and he accepts that even if Pukhtoons are struggling, we are a much bigger sinner in that than any Tajik, or even Punjabi in this case.