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    Hillary Mann Leverett, a former National Security Council official and co-author of The Race for Iran.

    1. In late May, then-top commander General Stanley McChrystal said there is "clear evidence of Iranian activity" in training and providing weaponry to the Taliban in Afghanistan. What are Iran's core interests in Afghanistan, and how have they evolved in the last nine years? How do those complement or work against what the U.S. and NATO are trying to achieve there?
    Iran has a strategic stake in Afghanistan that has not changed in the last nine years. Tehran's overriding interest is to prevent Afghanistan (with its long and lawless border with Iran) from being used as a platform from which to attack or undermine the Islamic Republic or to weaken Iran's standing as a regional power.
    To prevent Afghanistan from being used as an anti-Iranian platform, the Islamic Republic has worked, over many years, to form relationships with Afghan players who could keep Iran's Afghan enemies (principally the Taliban but also other anti-Shiite and anti-Persian groups) and their external supporters (principally Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, two of Iran's most important regional antagonists) in check. To this end, Iran has worked to strengthen and unite Afghanistan's Shiite Hazara and other Dari/Persian-speaking communities (which together comprise about 45 percent of the population) as a counterweight to anti-Iranian, pro-Saudi, and pro-Pakistani elements among Afghan Pashtuns (roughly 42 percent of the population). The Hazara and other Dari/Persian-speaking communities were, of course, the core of the Northern Alliance that fought the Taliban during the 1990s, and were supported by India and Russia as well as Iran.
    In contrast to Iraq, where Shia are a clear majority of the population and Shiite groups linked to Tehran are the most important political forces in the country, Iran knows from bitter experience that the Hazara and the other Dari/Persian-speaking communities provide, at best, inadequate protection for Iranian interests in Afghanistan, because they cannot govern the country in a way that keeps it relatively stable and minimizes Pakistani and Saudi influence. So, alongside its alliances with the Hazara and the other Dari/Persian-speaking groups, Iran has also cultivated ties to some Pashtun elements in Afghanistan and supported the country's Pashtun President, Hamid Karzai.
    As part of its cultivation of ties to Pashtun elements, Iran has almost certainly reached out to some Taliban factions. But I would wager a substantial sum that America's "ally" Pakistan is providing vastly more support to the Afghan Taliban than anything the Islamic Republic might be doing. And Tehran remains strongly opposed to the Taliban's resurgence as a major force in Afghan politics, for two reasons. First, the Taliban have traditionally persecuted Iran's Afghan allies -- especially the Shia Hazara -- and have even murdered Iranian diplomats. Second, Tehran sees the Taliban as a pawn for the expansion of Pakistani and Saudi influence in Afghanistan.
    As Tehran pursues this strategy of multiple alliances within Afghanistan, it must also assess the evolving role of the United States there and the implications of the U.S. posture toward Iran for Iran's Afghanistan policy. If the United States and NATO could convince Iran that they want an independent and stable Afghanistan that would be friendly to Iran, then U.S./NATO and Iranian strategies and tactics could complement each other very constructively. (This was very much the case in the months following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, when I was one of a small number of U.S. officials engaged in ongoing discussions with Iranian counterparts about how to deal with Afghanistan and al-Qaeda, and U.S. and Iranian policies regarding these issues were rather closely coordinated.)
    But, if Tehran perceives Washington as hostile to its interests -- which, unfortunately, is currently the case, given the Obama administration's drive to impose sanctions and continued use of covert operations to undermine the Islamic Republic -- then Iranian policymakers will regard the United States, along with America's Pakistani and Saudi allies, as part of the complex of anti-Iranian external players that Iran needs to balance against in Afghanistan. In this context, Iran has a strong interest in preventing U.S. troops in Afghanistan from being used to attack Iran directly, used as covert operatives to undermine the Iranian government, or used to strengthen Iran's regional rivals.

    2. What is Iran's likely reaction to the expected U.S. drawdown in Afghanistan, scheduled to begin in July 2011? How might Iran react if the Taliban's influence across Afghanistan grew, particularly in Herat and other border provinces?
    In contrast to the United States, which seems at least to be looking for a viable exit strategy from Afghanistan, there is no exit strategy for Iran. Iran publicly calls for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, partly because U.S. forces there could be used against Iran. But Tehran also calls for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan because Iranian policymakers believe that the extended U.S. presence there is seen by much of the population as an occupation and that it is this occupation which is fueling an increasingly fierce cycle of violence and instability. From Tehran's perspective, this cycle of violence and instability empowers Iran's Afghan adversaries, principally the Taliban, and their external backers, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, both of which are regional rivals to the Islamic Republic.
    For an Iranian standpoint, the most constructive American strategy would have been for the United States to begin a gradual but steady withdrawal of troops a few years ago when that could have helped shape a political settlement based on power sharing among all of Afghanistan's major constituencies. From an Iranian perspective, such a settlement could have included the Pashtun, though, at least at the time, not necessarily the Taliban, and would have given Iran's Afghan allies -- who, at the time, were also America's allies -- the upper hand. Today, Iran is concerned that, as America belatedly positions itself to begin withdrawing forces from Afghanistan next year, the Obama administration still has no coherent strategy regarding President Karzai's drive for a political deal -- a deal which, because of mistakes made by Washington, must now include the Taliban and its chief external backers, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
    In the political and security vacuum that is today's Afghanistan, Karzai's effort to engage the Taliban is generating deep unease among Iran's allies in Afghanistan's Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara communities. Already, the leadership of these non-Pashtun communities -- who also dominate the upper echelons of the Afghan military -- are organizing to resist, by force, any serious attempt at power-sharing between Karzai's government and the Taliban. If the Taliban's political influence across Afghanistan continues to grow -- particularly in an environment conditioned by what Tehran sees as America's strategic and tactical incompetence -- Iran will support its Afghan allies as they "push back" against a resurgent Taliban.

    3. It's been reported that Pakistan is seeking to increase its leverage in Afghan reconciliation talks. What might Iran's reaction be to an increase in Pakistani influence in Afghanistan?
    Iran is concerned that the United States' interest in fostering sufficient stability in Afghanistan for long enough to allow U.S. troops to begin leaving next year will lead Washington to drop the "red lines" it has imposed on Taliban participation in a political process. Iran is concerned that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia will be able to use the Taliban's unchecked involvement in a power-sharing arrangement as a proxy to expand their influence in Afghanistan at Tehran's expense and to threaten the Islamic Republic.
    Under these circumstances, Iran will intensify its support for key players among the Hazara, Tajik, and Uzbek groups, just as it did during the civil war that broke out after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan and after the Taliban took power in Kabul in 1996. These dynamics raise the risks of renewed civil war in Afghanistan -- a civil war that would simultaneously be a proxy war among Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, the country's most powerful external players. These were precisely the conditions under which al-Qaeda found sanctuary and thrived in Afghanistan during the 1990s.

    4. How would the ‘grand bargain' between the U.S. and Iran affect stability in Afghanistan and Pakistan?
    Post-conflict stabilization in Afghanistan requires recognizing and working with the integral connections between Afghanistan's internal balance of power and the broader balance of power among major states in the Middle East, Central Asia, and South Asia. And that means cooperation with Iran is essential to stabilizing Afghanistan and, by extension, Pakistan.
    Following 9/11, Iran worked with the United States on the short-term project of overthrowing the Taliban -- but with the long-term goal of prompting Washington to reconsider its hostile posture toward the Islamic Republic. In effect, the Iranians hoped that cooperation with the United States would facilitate a U.S.-Iranian "grand bargain" -- but this approach did not work, largely because of American resistance to a broader opening to Iran.
    Under current circumstances, Iran would need to be persuaded to cooperate once again with the United States in Afghanistan -- persuaded, in particular, that power-sharing could be done in a manner that addressed Tehran's longstanding concerns about the Taliban, the regional balance of power, and U.S. intentions toward the Islamic Republic. This cannot be done while Washington is pursuing sanctions against Iran -- however feckless they may be -- and offering progressively less veiled support for regime change in Tehran. Today, cooperation with Iran on post-conflict stabilization in Afghanistan has to be embedded in a broader strategic understanding between the United States and the Islamic Republic -- what my husband, Flynt Leverett, and I have described as a U.S.-Iranian "grand bargain".
    So, in other words, a U.S.-Iranian grand bargain has become essential to avoiding something close to strategic failure in Afghanistan. The Islamic Republic will, as I described, continue supporting its longstanding Afghan allies in resisting a Taliban onslaught backed by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. But, in the absence of a broader strategic understanding, those efforts will be seen, in Washington, and elsewhere, as undermining whatever political arrangements the Karzai government has reached with the Taliban. And that will fuel a regional proxy conflict with Afghanistan as the main battlefield, and with the United States drawn increasingly into supporting Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. That is a position the United States has been in before. We should not want to go there again.
    Hillary Mann Leverett, CEO of the political risk consultancy STRATEGA, is a former official with the National Security Council, State Department, and the U.S. mission to the United Nations. She blogs at the Race for Iran.

  • #2
    I beleive your both right, but I wonder why the US doesnt warm up to Iran since it would be in there interest to use them to balance power against saudi and pakiistani influence in afghanistan and they could also use them to balance saudi influence in iraq. My theory is the Israeli lobby is preventing the obama administration to warm up to iran

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    • #3
      But that is what has been happening, Khushal. I don't know about wrming up on a general term, but in Afghanistan to larger extend it is more or less axis of convinience and Iran has gained more influence than it has ever had and the U.S. has done nothing to stop it. And ofcourse Iran has been a spoiler too, with its limited covert support for Taliban on differnt levels. Whilst the Israeli lobby without a doubt has its own influence, U.S.-Iranian cooperation in Afghanistan alone cannot be a catalyst for their complicated relationship geo-politically and their interests to some extend naturally clash. And there are the like or Russia and China in the room too and the energy game etc. let alone their recent vexation over the nuclear proliferation.

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      • #4
        What further role do you envisage Iran can play? Is there any more room for further Iranian role? Could it not even become counter-productive?

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        • #5
          Iran khpal zaay peezhaani. Aw chances ye ziat de she gains in the end through less proactive role and what role to play. Pashtano sara de hum mindful wee, zma pa fekr. Iran kho da makha hum doost mulk woo, aw Talibano qeesa bela da haghooy hasee lewanian woo aw Iran pre poh dai.

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          • #6
            US-Saudi arms deal ripples from Iran to Israel




            By Adam Schreck
            The Associated Press


            DUBAI - As American and Saudi officials spent months quietly hammering out a wish list for a mammoth sale of American warplanes and other weapons to the oil-rich kingdom, leaders in Iran were busy publicly displaying their advances in missiles, naval craft and air power.

            In one memorable bit of political theatre, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood under a cascade of glitter in August to unveil a drone bomber - dubbed the "ambassador of death" - that he claimed would keep foes in the region "paralysed" on their bases.

            The response by Washington and its cornerstone Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, moved a step ahead Wednesday. The Obama administration notified Congress of plans to sell as many as 84 new F-15 fighter jets, helicopters and other gear with an estimated $60 billion price tag.

            The proposed deal - one of the biggest single US arms sales - is clearly aimed at countering Iran's rising military might and efforts to expand its influence.

            But it ties together other significant narratives in the region, including an apparent retooling of Israeli policies to tacitly support a stronger, American-armed Saudi Arabia because of common worries about Iran.
            It also reinforces the Gulf as the Pentagon's front-line military network against Iran even as the US sandwiches the Islamic republic with troops and bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.

            Israel has made no diplomatic rumblings over the proposed Saudi deal - a marked contrast to almost automatic objections decades ago to Pentagon pacts with Arab nations. It's widely seen as an acknowledgment that Israel's worries over Iran and its nuclear programme far outweigh any small shifts in the Arab-Israeli balance of power.

            Israel is moving towards a policy of "pick your fights," said Efraim Inbar, director of the Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University near Tel Aviv.

            "After all", he added, "Saudi Arabia is not such a big threat to us".
            And Israel does not come out of the current American arms bazaar empty handed. Earlier this month, it signed a deal to purchase 20 F-35 stealth fighters that could possibly reach Iran undetected by radar. Israel has an option for 75 more.

            “This equipment is primarily to give [Israel] a better feeling facing the Iranian threat. It is not related to Israeli-Arab relations,” said Inbar. “Ironically, in the current situation, Saudi Arabia is in the same strategic boat as Israel is in facing the Iranian threat.”

            Besides the new fighters for Saudi Arabia, the US plans to upgrade an additional 70 of the kingdom’s existing F-15s. State Department and Pentagon officials told lawmakers the sales also will include 190 helicopters, including Apaches and Black Hawks, as well as an array of missiles, bombs, delivery systems and accessories such as night-vision goggles and radar warning systems.

            Congress has 30 days to block the deal, which was first revealed in September but has been in negotiations for months. US officials say they aren’t expecting significant opposition.

            Iran, meanwhile, has concentrated on its missile arsenal overseen by the powerful Revolutionary Guard. Its solid-fuel Sajjil missile has a reported range of more than 2,000 kilometres - within range of Israel and all main US bases in the region.

            Iran’s navy has staged war games in the Gulf and announced major additions to its fleet, including three Iranian-built submarines designed to operate in the Gulf’s shallow waters.

            It marks the Gulf as a buyer’s market for arms, led by the US as the dominant Western military power from Kuwait to Oman. Throughout the Gulf, Washington counts on access to Arab allies’ air bases, logistics hubs and the Bahrain headquarters of America’s naval powerhouse in the region - the US 5th Fleet.

            A report last month by the US General Accountability Office said Washington approved $22 billion worth of military equipment transfers to the six Gulf Arab states between fiscal 2005 and 2009 through a Pentagon-managed programme.

            More than half was earmarked for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, including a $6.5 billion deal in 2009 for the UAE to buy the Patriot missile defence system.

            The UAE agreement was the largest single arms approval during the five-year period - but is dwarfed by the proposed Saudi deal.

            The researcher Wezeman said Iran is clearly the top perceived threat for the Gulf Arabs, but there are background concerns about Iraq’s stability and the unrest in neighbouring Yemen that includes Shiite Houthi rebels and Islamic extremists linked to Al Qaeda. The Saudi military was drawn into rare fighting in northern Yemen starting late last year, using air strikes and artillery to battle a Houthi rebellion that was spilling across the border.

            “Of course it’s against Iran. Of course it’s against Yemen,” said Wezeman. “You can read between the lines... but there are not any official statements about it.”

            Wezeman’s group issued a report this month that estimates the eight nations ringing the Gulf - including rivals Iran and Saudi Arabia - accounted for 10 per cent of all conventional weapons imports between 2005-2009.

            The appetite was on display earlier this month when envoys from more than 50 US defence and aerospace firms held talks in Abu Dhabi, where they were welcomed by the UAE’s minister of foreign trade at an opulent hotel on the shores of the Gulf.

            As the American defence budget tightens, the Gulf’s deep pockets beckon.

            “This is a critical time for our companies abroad as the US defence budget continues to face pressures at home,” said a statement from Lawrence Farrell, head of the National Defence Industrial Association based outside Washington.

            Jane Kinninmont, a Middle East and Africa specialist at the Economist Intelligence Unit, said concerns over Iran are the primary motivation for the Saudi arms expansion. But she wonders how much the untested Gulf forces rattle Iranian commanders who are almost all veterans of the 1980-88 war with Iraq.

            “I would not be surprised if the Iranians are pretty cynical about the armies here,” she said during an interview in Dubai. “To put it bluntly, they’ve fought a war.”

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            • #7
              Also notice, the Mulawi Kashaf spokes person for the peace council today formally requested Saudi help.

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              • #8
                Zalimanu da IRAN dwyam Kor Afghanistan da........

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                • #9
                  You are right, fake Pakistani Nokia. So what is your point?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jasmine
                    Iran thinks Afghanistan falls under it influences.
                    No they don't, as per se. They clearly have their interests and degree of influence. There are clearly converging interests between the two countries, that is if Iran plays its cards well and wise. Traditionally Iran and Afghanistan have had warm relations, this was only disrupted by exogenous factors and that including import of ideologies i.e. Marxism, Sunni fundementalism and Talibism etc. But Iran is equally to a degree shia fanatic state. However, Iran as is a pragmatic state knows too well that it should choose its policy conduct with Afghanistan beyond this ideological medium as Afghanistan itself is beyond being a fundementalist ideological state and hence there is a potential open field to harness political-economic interests of both which will potentially create a strategic security envorinment for both state with too many common bondages and mutual interests. If Iran and Afghanistan can rationalise this it will re-establish both countries' lost position in the region.
                    Last edited by ComradePashtun; 10-22-2010, 12:49 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I read an article back in 2003 when the US was massing troops in kuwait to invade iraq. The saudis egyptians and jordians were becoming very nervious that the US was changeing favortism towards shias in the region. They feared the US was putting an Iran friendly government in Afghaniastan, and an Iran friendly government in Iraq and that eventually the sunnis would lose power in the middle east hence the reason they started supporting the taliban to create unstability in afghansitan and the insurgency in iraq to create unstablity to undermine the regimes established in each country.

                      The only thing that is left is that the US has not warmed up to iran and it is the US that is resisting better relations not the iranians.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PashtunQueen
                        ComradePashtun, Iran traditionally has been pro-Persian and they want to see another persian speaking nation in the region. Even in the 80s Afghanistan used to be flooded by Iranian magazines tht were all in Persian. Iran wants a strong Persian speaking Afghanistan.
                        Do you see that as a hostile act? Read my previous posts again, I mentioned that Iran should be cautious of its role in Afghanistan.

                        Agreed, Khushal.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PashtunQueen
                          ComradePashtun, Iran traditionally has been pro-Persian and they want to see another persian speaking nation in the region. Even in the 80s Afghanistan used to be flooded by Iranian magazines tht were all in Persian. Iran wants a strong Persian speaking Afghanistan.
                          Thats not true. Iran doesn't give a damn about what language Afghanistan speaks... for a matter of fact Iranis hate afghans no matter what ethnicities they belong to. they hate hazaras equally to pashtoons... and i have been to Iran so i would know. we are not labelled as Pashtoon, tajik hazara to Iran, we are all Afghans and frankly speaking they don't even care about shia madhab afghans.

                          Gulbudeen (the **** head) who always spoke against Iran and was hardline opposition of Iran actually took asylum in Iran. and the irani government welcomed him. do you see the contradiction here?

                          no one in this world does anything for language, religion, or culture... everyone is busy fighting for money and power. its all about money and its all about power... a brother will kill a brother over power and history has repeated this many many many times.

                          Iran's involvement in Afghanistan has NOTHING to do with Farsi...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                            You are right, fake Pakistani Nokia. So what is your point?
                            CP ........zma Point sa da bal kala ta ba ya Khpal kor shi da

                            iran........
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
                              CP ........zma Point sa da bal kala ta ba ya Khpal kor shi da

                              iran........
                              Fake Pakistani Nokia,

                              Ka pa Pashtu khse leekana kawi no bya sama saafa standard Pashtu woleeka che har sarray pre poh shee.

                              WTH was that, I really can't get what you are saying?

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