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  • #16
    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
    You didn't get my point did you? I did not argue if they exist or not, re-read my post carefully and slowly. I haven't posted my political stance yet. I just disagree with your claim in which you boldly said "NONE". You said it as if it was a fact. If you would have said "In my opinion" I wouldn't have been typing this. This is a basic fundamental of debating. You do not make such substantial claims without citing sources. I can't just say Canadians are American slaves and expect everything to be pretty and glooomy. When you post, there is a certain expectation. Its sort of an unwritten law that without citing sources or providing concrete evidence your post is invalid and void. Besides, quite obviously many Pashtuns of Pakistan want Loy Afghanistan and PF is clear evidence for this. We have members who want Loy Afghanistan that reside right in Hayatabad,Peshawar. You can even pay them a visit if you want. They aren't robots. I can name a handful members who reside perhaps no more than 100KMs away than you. Strange world ain't it?


    If necessary, mein aap ko Urdu or Pashto mein samjha sakta hoon. Tension nahein lena ka, dena ka.
    I know how smart are the people of Hayat Abad area
    and ur last sentnce realized me something Mr Admin Khan....thanks
    [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Barking Dogs Seldom Bite...![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
    :fighting:

    LONG LIVE UNITED PAKISTAN

    ([B]Balochi + Sindi + Punjabi + Pashtoon + Chitrali + Kashmiri = My Sweet Pakistan[/B])

    Jeeway Jeeway Pakistan

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
      I know how smart are the people of Hayat Abad area
      and ur last sentnce realized me something Mr Admin Khan....thanks
      Great, I am glad(pleased?) to know that you know understand the difference between your opinion and a factual claim.

      A fact is something that is true about a subject and can be tested or proven.
      Look for clues such as: " 56% of...., or "The patient experienced..."

      An opinion is what someone thinks about that subject.
      Look for clues such as: "I believe...", "It's obvious...", or "They should..."


      What you had posted was your opinion that you disguised as a fact.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
        Alhamdulillah.....non of the pakistani pashtun wants neither ur loy afganistan nor khorasan

        come towards ground realities
        Brother ,with all respect to you, why should every nation in the world have its own country while we Pakhtuns are not allowed to have our own country /nation and our own identity?

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        • #19
          How can we create our land? I was thinking this could be start:


          1. First of all , we Pakhtuns should start from our selves. Every Pakhtun should acknowledge the fact that he/she is a Pakhtun and not "paki","arab","american " etc.. Once you understand that your root is Pakhtun ,your blood is Pakhtun, your mother tounge is Pakhtun,youf culture and tradition is Pakhtun,your honour and gherat is Pakhtun, then you have understood that you really are a Pakhtun and not a Paki.

          Most Pakhtuns in Pakistan think they are "pakistanis".hello wake up. Why do you forget your 5000 yeard old histroy for 60 years of "pakistanism". A Pakhtun is a Pakhtun no matter what, You cant change your identity.

          2. Once your have recognized your identity, you inform other Pakhtuns about it and wake them upp too.

          3. You look at what your position is in the so called "pakistan". Look at where your nation is and look at where the punjabis are at. Once you realise that you as Pakhtun are looked upon as a 3rd class citizen and a slave you do somehing about it. What do you do about it?

          4. You start educating your self, your family, your friends etc..

          5. Start a samll moovement within the colleges ,schools and universities a moovement that forwards only Pakhtun interests and works for the ultimate goal wich is to unite Pakhtuns on both sides of the border o create one LOY AFGHANISTAN or KHURASAN.

          6. You starts rallies around teh Pakhtun land ,Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan and informs the poor people of how you are beeing treated,How your nation is killed for usa dollars etc...

          7. When you get through to the public you start demanding for a referendum where you ask the Pakhtun nation if they want to be with pakistan or not. I belive majority of Pakhtuns wants to be seperated from pakistan.Because Pakhtuns have not benefitted anything from pakistan. We are the loosers on all platform.Therefore its about time we wake up and do something about our own situation.Remember you are a nation that no one can stop. Once you put your mind to something you always accomplish it.

          8. This moovement must be done in a peaceful manner .We do not want violance.As we want to work for the unity and creation of a country wich is only for Pakhtuns ,governed by Pakhtuns no one else.

          10.Its very important that the young people are behind this kind of moovement,because our elder leaders can not be trusted.They are all in the pockets of pakistani goverment and they are corrupt.

          11. There will come obstacles in our way,but we have to give some sacrifice ,InshAllah all will work out well.


          Finally I just want to add,why should every nation have their own country and not us Pakhtuns? Why should we be the slaves of others? For how long are we going to be silence about the destruction of our lives,blood,homes etc?? What kind of bagherati is this to call your self "pakistani" when the same country is killing you?


          One golden rule to never forget.NEVER TRUST A PAKI,NO MATTER HOW SWEET HE IS TO YOU AND KIND!.

          If any of you have any thoughts that can be fruitful for this idea.please share

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          • #20
            For me it doesn't matter if it is Loy Afghanistan or Khurasan, the only thing I want is the sake of the people who will be sacrificed for this name.
            Life is like posing for pictures. We pose the way we want to be seen by others. But stolen shots are better. They capture who we really are...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
              The reasons for the creation of Loy Afghanistan in the future are political and geo strategic not religeous in nature. It does not imply however that religion is not important element in Pakhtun/ Afghan culture but if it is kept at a distance from political struggle and confined to aesthetics , private and cultural life ,it will be more appropriate and realistic.
              To test how realistic your proposition is, how about you go to any street corner in Afghanistan and declare what you have stated and see the reaction.
              O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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              • #22
                @Pakistani_Policy
                Welcome (back) and now be quick with your offer of a Loy Pakistan!
                Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                • #23
                  no thank you sir, we are just fine with Afghanistan ...and inshaALlah we will become loy afghanistan.

                  and when that happens... all the panjabi lover pashtoons should move towards panjab from pashtoonkhwa

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
                    who believes in e-world.
                    At least i dont.....rather i trust which i see with my eyes.
                    Weren't you the one stating your hatred towards Afghans and Afghanistan because of this very same e-world?
                    Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                    • #25
                      Son of M,

                      We like you e-Paki-bretoona! lol

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
                        Alhamdulillah.....non of the pakistani pashtun wants neither ur loy afganistan nor khorasan

                        come towards ground realities
                        All of the posters here are eating khyali pulao. These e-warriors in the west will talk for ever.

                        Some idiots are feeding them wrong info, i respect the concern of afghans for us but i strongly dislike the propaganda cells like khyaal and pir rokhan, they should b realistic.
                        Last edited by Michin Khel; 10-10-2010, 06:42 AM.

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