Taliban army before invasion (real national army of Afghanistan).

[Maiwand]

This was indeed a real national army of Afghanistan, representing all segments of the Afghan society and defending the lives, interests, souls, properties and religion of the Afghan moslims, even those of muhajiroon (refugees) and mujahideen from other parts of the world. Inshallah soon this Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will return, much more stronger, independent, sovereign, mighty and will eventually liberate all the Islamic countries and establish one Islamic Khalifate.

[khyaal]

Only in your dreams. These Punjabi ISI stooges are destined to be perished.

[Maiwand]

Of course we had, we had an Islamic goverment (Emirah). We had a government with ministeries and ministers and a head of govenment (amir ul mumineen Mullah Mullar), but they were quite inexperienced in the governance aspect and had no sufficient budget to rule the country. But this time everything will be different. It will be a broad-based national govenment, supported by all Afghans and they will establish a real Islamic govenment (Shariah law) without the mistakes that were made in the past.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Of course we had, we had an Islamic goverment (Emirah). We had a government with ministeries and ministers and a head of govenment (amir ul mumineen Mullah Mullar), but they were quite inexperienced in the governance aspect and had no sufficient budget to rule the country. But this time everything will be different. It will be a broad-based national govenment, supported by all Afghans and they will establish a real Islamic govenment (Shariah law) without the mistakes that were made in the past.

we've heard this story before

[muhsina]

Of course we had, we had an Islamic goverment (Emirah). We had a government with ministeries and ministers and a head of govenment (amir ul mumineen Mullah Mullar), but they were quite inexperienced in the governance aspect and had no sufficient budget to rule the country. But this time everything will be different. It will be a broad-based national govenment, supported by all Afghans and they will establish a real Islamic govenment (Shariah law) without the mistakes that were made in the past.

My dear angelic bro

Can you please descend to the planet earth from your "alamul arwaah" for a moment so we can critically appreciate your ideas. I am sure you will have nothing to loose except your dreams.

You claim that you had :

1) an Emirah
2) a govt with ministries and even ministers and also headed by a head of govt [his name being Omar prefixed by three to four religeous cadres instead of adminstrative ones]
3) They were inexperienced in governance
4) They lacked Budget to run the govt
5) This time everthing will be fine
6) It will be a broad based national govt supported by all Afghans
7) They will establish an Islamic govt without repeating the past mistakes

Please give a serious heed to the bold phrases. I will just float some question to send a surge of alternating current so that your sacred inactive nuerons [well equipped with imaniyat-e-thalatha] might move a bit.

If you read till no. 4 when it was Emirah, Amir ul Momineen etc it was just lack of experience , lack of Budget, Lack of good governance.

Then you took a 180 degree turn and claimed that this time everyhting will be fine because it will be a broad based national govt ,supported by all Afghans...

You noticed the difference.

Your last sentence again shows that you are ready to repeat the mistake again as a result of which you will have no good governance, lack of Budget etc.

[ComradePashtun]

Maiwand is a Paki nationalist from Paki defence forum and he is advocating Emirah for us. Hahaha

[Maiwand]

My dear angelic bro

Can you please descend to the planet earth from your "alamul arwaah" for a moment so we can critically appreciate your ideas. I am sure you will have nothing to loose except your dreams.

You claim that you had :

1) an Emirah
2) a govt with ministries and even ministers and also headed by a head of govt [his name being Omar prefixed by three to four religeous cadres instead of adminstrative ones]
3) They were inexperienced in governance
4) They lacked Budget to run the govt
5) This time everthing will be fine
6) It will be a broad based national govt supported by all Afghans
7) They will establish an Islamic govt without repeating the past mistakes

Please give a serious heed to the bold phrases. I will just float some question to send a surge of alternating current so that your sacred inactive nuerons [well equipped with imaniyat-e-thalatha] might move a bit.

If you read till no. 4 when it was Emirah, Amir ul Momineen etc it was just lack of experience , lack of Budget, Lack of good governance.

Then you took a 180 degree turn and claimed that this time everyhting will be fine because it will be a broad based national govt ,supported by all Afghans...

You noticed the difference.

Your last sentence again shows that you are ready to repeat the mistake again as a result of which you will have no good governance, lack of Budget etc.

This time the Taliban are a lot more experienced in politics and governance aspects, as well as military. They will be morally much more stronger, because they will have defeated the crusader alliance. They will get the support of Islamic groups and the ummah from the rest of the Islamic world, inshallah. If you don't believe me, just wait and see, inshallah. Have faith in Allah (swt) and pray for your mujahideen brothers and everything will be fine. All the muslims around the world should support them with ideas, money, dua's and them selves.

[Maiwand]

Maiwand is a Paki nationalist from Paki defence forum and he is advocating Emirah for us. Hahaha

Please stop with your pathetic conspiracy theories. I am just an ordinary pashtun Afghan from Maidan Shahr (Wardak). I have absolutely no connection with Pakistan, except a brotherhood of faith with the muslims over there.

[ComradePashtun]

We all have similar objectives and that is a free Afghanistan. And you cannot achieve that with military means alone. Taliban lack a cohesive political strategy. I guarantee you if their pundits weren't in GHQ it would be easier for them to continue their struggle and liberate Afghanistan from occupation in a much effective way. The way their struggle is carried out seems to be only meeting the objectives of GHQ than freeing Afghanistan alone. I pray for the ones on the battlefield and I have all the resopect for them that a man should have for another. I had I been there and lived through what they have I would be also there. It is their leaders who they take directives from who are leading their struggle astray. Why can't they also pursue a political struggle?

We are all Afghans and the foreigners have to leave. I differ in achieving that objective from the Talibani way to be more responsible. God help us we are stuck in the middle between the two devils. Foreigners cannot occupy our country perpetually, they just want to leave Afghanistan stable and without being dominated by rag-tag irresponsible ISI militia. And this is what majority of Afghans also want.

[ComradePashtun]

This time the Taliban are a lot more experienced in politics and governance aspects, as well as military. They will be morally much more stronger, because they will have defeated the crusader alliance. They will get the support of Islamic groups and the ummah from the rest of the Islamic world, inshallah. If you don't believe me, just wait and see, inshallah. Have faith in Allah (swt) and pray for your mujahideen brothers and everything will be fine. All the muslims around the world should support them with ideas, money, dua's and them selves.

Is that something they are told to recite in some rotten Paki madrassah?

[Maiwand]

We all have similar objectives and that is a free Afghanistan. And you cannot achieve that with military means alone. Taliban lack a cohesive political strategy. I guarantee you if their pundits weren't in GHQ it would be easier for them to continue their struggle and liberate Afghanistan from occupation in a much effective way. The way their struggle is carried out seems to be only meeting the objectives of GHQ than freeing Afghanistan alone. I pray for the ones on the battlefield and I have all the resopect for them that a man should have for another. I had I been there and lived through what they have I would be also there. It is their leaders who they take directives from who are leading their struggle astray. Why can't they also pursue a political struggle?

We are all Afghans and the foreigners have to leave. I differ in achieving that objective from the Talibani way to be more responsible. God help us we are stuck in the middle between the two devils. Foreigners cannot occupy our country perpetually, they just want to leave Afghanistan stable and without being dominated by rag-tag irresponsible ISI militia. And this is what majority of Afghans also want.

no that's not true, the crusaders want to occupy our country, plunder our resources, subjugate and humiliate our people (especially the pashtuns), suppress our values and morals, brainwash our youth with their way of life, indoctrinate our masses with their perverted and materialistic ideology, install a puppet, subversive regime which is also corrupt,remove Islam from the society and politics (shariah) and make Islam instead a ritualistic and private matter, torture and kill the mujahideen and rape our women, demolish our homes. Of course they won't say this on CNN to you, but this is the ground reality in Afghanistan, this is what the orindinary Afghans have seen the last nine years. Nobody believes over there in democracy or their so called "civilization" or "human rights" any more. There is a revivle and awakening of Islam, I have been to Kabul and other areas and I have seen it with my own eyes. Ordinary people hate the corrupt government and the crusaders and want to liberate their country and bring safety, security and justice back and at least the taliban government where taking care of those important things. The situation of the ordinary people in Afghanistan has only gone worse the last nine years, only a few rich and corrupt elite and the drug and war lords are benefitting of the contintued occupation of our country. This is the truth and these are the facts on the ground. It is now time to stop with useless discussion and the spreading of conspiracy theories. We won't achieve anything with that. We should unite now and focus our effort to liberate our country, rebuild it, make it prospers and then we can deal with Pakistan and our external enemies.

[ComradePashtun]

No man, that is what is inculcated in to you. They cannot do that, seriously. I guarantee you, you will be part of any outcome not kufars. You are just paranoid. Relax. Na'aoozubilah kufar kho khudai na da che har tsa wooghwari aw hagha ba kawi. You think too simple. I don't think they really gives a shyt about establishing a democracy for you there and etc. etc. etc.

Of course they have interests, just put your head in to work and then you wont have a problem and it will be a win win.

The revival blah blah blah my aaaaas!

[ComradePashtun]

You can't deal with shyt. I guarantee you after 10 years you will be still pushing yourself on that keenarab. And Taliban will still stink of crap than rather become engineers. lol haha

[ComradePashtun]

Well said, Jasmine.

[Baygham]

The Taliban have great people among them but sadly, Its elite are under Paki influence.

No doubt that its soldiers are among the best of Pashtuns.

Jasmine what is your backround. I am very curious, to say something like that, I can assume you were not raised in pakhtunland. I thought you lived in USA or something and worked for them. are you just touting maiwand or are you serious, I am dumfounded.May be it is sarcasm? I dont know??