BBC Debate: 'Has The Taliban Won In Afghanistan?

[Maiwand]

I think you are very illogical. In order for us to win the war and defeat the crusadors we need cut them of their logistics and their main backers and that remains to be Pakistan. If we do that they will not be able to sustain themselves for a week in Afghanistan. Are you crazy?

No that's not true. even if you don't completely cut the supply line from Pakistan, you will still be able to defeat them. The taliban are repeatedly attacking those supply lines, but the crusaders have began a new route from the North, they have bases in former soviet Republics. The whole world is their military base. They get support from the whole world, so Pakistan wouldn't make a very big difference, altough it is true that they get also a lot of support from ISI and Pakistani puppet government the last nine years (those you consider to be supporting Taliban, LOL).

But I guarantee you, if the crusaders are defeated in Afghanistan, the pakistani regime wouldn't survive for a long time thereafter. Pakistan is now really destabilized, from natural disasters, from a war in Pashtun area's, from an insurgency, from the side of India (kashmir), the government is corrupt, they are helped with loans from IMF and world bank, their economy is in a very bad shape. Now they are getting some money from the US, but when the US and NATO pulls out, that life-line will also stop. Then you will see how quickly pakistan will be taken over by the Taliban, inshallah.

[Maiwand]

When the crusaders leave, Pakistan will have a direct influence on all the politics of Afghanistan if the Taliban return. The Taliban just like in the past will get its support from Pakistan in the name of Islam while Pakistan will try extremely hard to make it its proxy. Pakistan wants to see you backwards Maiwand, why don't you realize that? The Taliban low level officials might be great but its senior commanders had frequent meetings with the ISI.

many documents support that ISI supported them, If the ISI supports them, why don't they support a Taliban government to replace its current Govt.

Answer me carefully.

These are absolutely no facts or the truth. You are only repeating again and again the same propaganda and conspiracy theory of the ISI and Taliban connection. Come with real facts, arguments then I will answer. It seems that no matter what we say you people will always repeat the same propaganda that you hear on the (afghan) media.

[ComradePashtun]

Stop nitpicking man, oh man, oh man, oh man. Don't blame the player blame the game. Nothing will happen to Pakistan even when you defeat the crusadors. You will need them for a bowl of daal when you will be back in that madrassah. Alot of the instability in the Pashtun areas is created by Pakistan itself.

[Maiwand]

Pakistan's intelligence agency said to support Taliban - Wikinews, the free news source
Pakistan: "The Taliban's Godfather"?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/wo...ibal.html?_r=1
Crisis of Impunity - Pakistan's Support Of The Taliban
Taliban 'receives direct support from Pakistan' - Telegraph
WikiLeaks shocker? In Kabul, Pakistan support for Taliban is no surprise - CSMonitor.com

Maiwand,
face it. They are Pakistans proxy.

ahaha, well those are not really the most reliable and trusted sources to get these kind of news. Those are all biased and have their own political agenda. Even wikileaks is part of the American government agenda and strategy to spread their propaganda against the Taliban.

[ComradePashtun]

There is no propaganda. These are established facts that we Afghans have known first hand for a decade and before.

[Fahd]

taliban = pashton
who said taliban to pakistan side no
taliban to pashton -afghan - muslim side
taliban i think will get back our land from pakistan im sure they will
taliban fight for our country and there s ppl say wrong thing's about them
???? i know sometime u confuse the right and wrong
(who said taliban study in pakistan that mean they are for pakistan ??
can i say who study in UK or USA will be to they side ???)
who know the story how taliban come to world ?
i dare if 80% don't know the real .
mybe im kid for the old ppl here and they think im talk like kid's who study in ksa ??
ksa don't love taliban evry friday pray they talk about dua for all muslim
do u know they never said afghan's or taliban ?????????
they hate taliban and when they said plaestane and other country that's make ma blood boils
there alot of hadith sharif that talk about ppl wear black thing's on head (patkai ) from kharasan (afghanistan name in islamic time ) they take the islam again and do jihad (do u know that ksa mallu said that's hadith is weak we can say that true huhu they know it's real but they said that becuse in the same hadith talk about that ksa king when die he's son's and brother son's fight with each other for be king .
i must say u ppl don't know alot of thing's mybe im kid but i know more and more
i wish u all know the right from the wrong