Pashtuns of Taliban a Pakistani proxy?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Hehe paighoor kho mi na day karay zargiya that was just a reminder that Pakistan did something .. And yeah it was Pakistan who did it not Pakhtunkhwa It was the state which welcomed the Afghans not the Pakhtunkhwa govt and yes Pakistan is taking care of them if it was only Pakhtunkhwa you would have not found Afghans in Lahore and Karachi So you saying that it's not Pakistan it's wrong ..

Pakistan dollari ogatali lol.. zargiya pakistan damaki ogatali , chars podar e o gatal And much more not only dollari

Pakhtunkhwa housed them, 90 % of them....would still do it, as it is porous region and they are own people. Mung kho agho manoo walae che Pashtaana dee, stha Pakistan kho mung ham na manee...shall I remind you of how Sindh and Panjab trated the IDPs of Swat/Buner/Shangla?

Wo ddalarae ao daa charss che dae khaana dae tha ba khalk speen powder wael ao generals pae arabo ddalarae ogattl. Walae da nuke pa muftha jorr shuwae wo lolzz? Please the drug trade helped facilitate it. Bombings were there fault...it is called policy blowback..if they had interfered like they did in Pashtunkhwa and Afghanistan then this would not have happened.

[khushal]

Hmm, that is Pakistan? Ok tell me Is Pakistan the ONLY country responsible for all the s*** in Afghanistan?
Are the Afghans not equally responsible? If someone is brainwashing you why you get brainwashed? Y are we so cheap that every one can buy us for a few dollars and make us do whatever they want? Pakistan is also suffering because of all this ...

Okay If Pakistan is that much bad than why its a dream land for a normal Afghan? What are Afghans doing here? They don't even apply for citizenship here? (Don't take me wrong, I don't want them to get out of here unlike the so-called Pakhtun Nationalist Party Afghanistan). The ground realities are quite different .. Afghans themselves are also equally responsible for their miserable conditions today !!

If Pakistan is the only country responsible than the solution is very easy for you bycott Pakistan on each and every level and you will be safe .. Afghanistan will be heaven than?

Why do you keep bringing up the notion that afghans are in pahtunkha, and what are they doing there. Every time you are unable to come up with rational counter arguements, its the same thiing you say.

You have been so brainwashed by these anglo servants you defend so much that you have lost the essence of being a pushtun or a muslim. No pashtun or muslim tells a melmai or refugee, what are you doing here. Your heart is in the wrong place.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Let' agree for the sake of Argument that only Pakistan and ISI are responsible so what now :?

Yes I'll say that its your so called best friend India using Your land against ME And I am gonna say it again and again .. And yes I am not dictating it to you I am just telling You that your land is used against me And yes if you are so close friends why don't you go to India instead of Pakistan .. I am sure they won't think twice before throwing you to the 3 yards prison


I will kick each and every individual who will think of kicking Afghan out of Pakistan. Actually those loved by you the great Pakhtun nationalist are telling Afghans to go back not me

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Let' agree for the sake of Argument that only Pakistan and ISI are responsible so what now :?

Yes I'll say that its your so called best friend India using Your land against ME And I am gonna say it again and again .. And yes I am not dictating it to you I am just telling You that your land is used against me And yes if you are so close friends why don't you go to India instead of Pakistan .. I am sure they won't think twice before throwing you to the 3 yards prison


I will kick each and every individual who will think of kicking Afghan out of Pakistan. Actually those loved by you the great Pakhtun nationalist are telling Afghans to go back not me

Who is you and who is them? You just admitting one thing for the sake of an argument then did a 180 right after. How does that work? If we accept (for the sake of argument) ISI and Pakistan is responsible, then it is logical to consider options that do not include Pakistan. What else are people to say? Lolzz come on man.

[Shehbaz Khan]

What I am getting that We both will just be arguing about it and the enemies will kick us all

Loved being in here with you the problem is just that you put all the blame on me and my agencies and no way I agree to that You live happily with your point of view I will stay happy with mine

[BLS_1919v2.0]

What I am getting that We both will just be arguing about it and the enemies will kick us all

Loved being in here with you the problem is just that you put all the blame on me and my agencies and no way I agree to that You live happily with your point of view I will stay happy with mine

Well mung da tha waaayu che Pakistan ham aghyaaro kae hisaab ka...now see what you did here. You just sidetracked lolzz. No one is blaming you, we are saying we are Pashtuns and Pakistan agencies/army are just as big of an enemy towards Pashtuns as say Peerangyaan. We substantiated our statements, now peera do the same :-).

[khushal]

[QUOTE=Levanaye Zalmaye;156491]I'm sorry, khushal, but I think you missed the purpose behind my post. There was no victory in that war. The biggest losers out of that conflict were Pashtuns. Look at us now. Look at Afghanistan, look at FATA. Who profited from that so-called Jihad? The Pakistani state. Israel. The United States.

Apology accepted wrora,
But there was victory in that war, The Soviets left in defeat, what happened after that war which was the civil war was a different matter. Once the Soviets left, the ISI's goal was to bring the kabul government down and they accomplished it by using the greedy desires and power hungary leaders Hekmatyar and Masood and also Najib mismanaged the government by empowering a the brutal Dostom. These idiots should have sat down and realized that if the fight continues, only outsiders would benifit.

[QUOTE=Levanaye Zalmaye;156491
So despite three victories, Afghanistan lost nearly 50% of its population to the British Empire and nearly as much land? Wasn't the Afghan Emir to be paid and equipped by the British after 1880 against any possible Russian intervention?

That is true but they tried their best to prevent it, Abdur rahman never recognized the durand line nor did any leader after him. He was even fooled into signing anything since it was in english and he did not know how to read or understand english. The agreement was to stop interfering in each other affairs and it was not for the durand line this is the reason why pakistan is so nervious of a strong and stable afghanistan, because they know that the durand line is illigal and many international law experts agree that the agreement that was signed by abdur rahman is not ligitimate. the British tried hard even after 1880 to make that agreement as ligitimate as possible but they failed.

[khushal]

What I am getting that We both will just be arguing about it and the enemies will kick us all

Loved being in here with you the problem is just that you put all the blame on me and my agencies and no way I agree to that You live happily with your point of view I will stay happy with mine

Your views are that of a traitor to your own people. you give pekhor to your brothers and sisters for the sake of a panjabi by boasting that your feeding hungary refugees, its not you, you cant even feed yourself, Your defending the Pakistani leaders that stole UN aid from those hungary refugees, The same Pakistan leaders that have brought much suffering to your own people that is if you consider yourself an afghan.
How could you not feel sharam when you say things like that.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Manana

You kept on saying all wrongs I did to you and when I said I even did something good and even your land is used against me and even you harmed me you said that I am doing peghor

Stay happy Read my first reply to this topic .. That gives my point of view Manana

[Khan Gul]

Dear Shehbaz Khan,
Wrara da Pukhtu da Mattal kho ba mo awredaley wee kana che "Da khro marg da spoo akhtar we." This mattal speaks volumes. In effect, the financial survival of Pakistan rested on the annihilated Afghanistan. Perhaps you don't want me to go into detail of the Billions of Dollars and sophisticated weapons and arms Pakistan received and is still receiving from the U.S. and the rest of the world.
And concerning your claim Pakistan or Pukhtunkhwa feeding Afghans, let me remind you we did not treat our Afghans brothers with any dignity or respect but rather we have had them confined to inhuman and dreadful camps like Jalozai and in return we filled our own tummies with what we received in the form of aid in their names. My several visits to Jalozai and other camps will for ever keep me disturbed.
If Jasmine's assumptions and observations are correct about the recent resistance of Afghans against the invaders, being human beings and Pukhtuns let us support it. Afghans suffered a lot and the reason its suffering was prolonged has its seat and roots in Pakistan.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Dear Shehbaz Khan,
Wrara da Pukhtu da Mattal kho ba mo awredaley wee kana che "Da khro marg da spoo akhtar we." This mattal speaks volumes. In effect, the financial survival of Pakistan rested on the annihilated Afghanistan. Perhaps you don't want me to go into detail of the Billions of Dollars and sophisticated weapons and arms Pakistan received and is still receiving from the U.S. and the rest of the world.
And concerning your claim Pakistan or Pukhtunkhwa feeding Afghans, let me remind you we did not treat our Afghans brothers with any dignity or respect but rather we have had them confined to inhuman and dreadful camps like Jalozai and in returned we filled our own tummies what we received in the form of aid in their names. My several visits to Jalozai and other camps will for ever keep me disturbed.
If Jasmines' assumptions and observations are correct about the recent resistance of Afghans against the invaders, being human beings and Pukhtuns let us support them. Afghans suffered a lot and the reason its suffering was prolonged has its seat in Pakistan.

Camp zhwand dder spak zhwand wo ham da Afghanistan pashtano tha, ham da qibaeelo ao ham da swat idps. Afsoss pur dae dae che wuss ham pwae shuwee na dee....wuss kho da khudaade mumlikath da Afghanistan thareefoona ba kaee kho che mathlab thae laarrshee nu Pashtunkhwa khalk baertha chowkidaaar ao akhtrott shwll ao Afghanistan tha ba dyuu baertha ihsaanoona arraee...da gharib Afghanistan mashomaan ao nor pashtaana che da labour kaee ao khazalae raattolaee da kho warna haer wee.

[khyaal]

Your views are that of a traitor to your own people. you give pekhor to your brothers and sisters for the sake of a panjabi by boasting that your feeding hungary refugees, its not you, you cant even feed yourself, Your defending the Pakistani leaders that stole UN aid from those hungary refugees, The same Pakistan leaders that have brought much suffering to your own people that is if you consider yourself an afghan.
How could you not feel sharam when you say things like that.

The poor friend Shahbz doesn't even know the fact that Pakistan has completely crippled his very common sense. He is in such a big trouble that though he is a Pashtun(afghan) he is in search of an alternative identity for himself.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Manana for all your concerns I'd given my point of view of things and read yours .. In the end we all have the same goal I guess May be I am a kid and not that much mature as you guys are and it will definately take me some time may be I am not cent percent right neither you will be 100 percent correct

Manana to you all once again

[khushal]

Manana for all your concerns I'd given my point of view of things and read yours .. In the end we all have the same goal I guess May be I am a kid and not that much mature as you guys are and it will definately take me some time may be I am not cent percent right neither you will be 100 percent correct

Manana to you all once again

Shabaz khan wrora,
You have your points but listen to other points with an open mind. You are in Pakistan, and you only know what the state wants you to know. You are against any other idea because the state have only fed you things that would advance their interests.
If the pakistani leaders trully were muslim and that had good intentions for the their neighbors and their own citizens who are muslim, They would not have destroyed them and have them live through misery. These leaders advance disunity among the pashtuns and among the muslims. Just look at how Pakistan celebrates eid on a different day then the rest of the muslim world, that right there is a clue on what their intentions are. They are hated by all their neighbors.
Pakistan was created by the British to prevent the muslims from ruling India like they have done for centuries before. They put these theives in power in Pakistan to menace their neighbors and bring disunty to muslims. Pakistan today is the number one threat to pashtun unity which you say is your goal, but you are defending the number one threat. So your points of view dont make sence since you are defending a bunch of criminals against your own people.