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  • #16
    I wonder why the basis of indian members on PF is on anti-pakistanism or india vs pakistan ****t. Why their friendship with afghans is on basis of common enemy? why not direct and absolute friendship?

    Except spogmai shaghlay, stay of all the indian members was not longer as there were not so much pakistanis here for targeting.

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    • #17
      I support India and Pakistan. Why are Pakis so mad when Afghans appreciate Indian contributions? India has contributed in Afghanistan. Pakistan has also helped and destroyed us by nurturing and sending us terrorists. We can't just side with Pakis for Pakis interests. India is a bigger donater than Pakistan.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by amna View Post
        I support India and Pakistan. Why are Pakis so mad when Afghans appreciate Indian contributions? India has contributed in Afghanistan. Pakistan has also helped and destroyed us by nurturing and sending us terrorists. We can't just side with Pakis for Pakis interests. India is a bigger donater than Pakistan.
        I dont know how much to stress that you Afghans with Pakistanis worked to destroy your own country. When you say Pakistan sends terrorists to your country I know 100 percent you are referring to Pashtuns from pashtunkhwa, Let me make this clear there are have been 100s of cases about Afghan Nationals being arrested in Pakistan for drug smuggling,kidnappings and Terrorism and you dont hear us saying Afghanistan sends us terrorists.

        I mean no offence to you but the destruction of Afghanistan was a joint venture by Afghan/Pakistani Madrassah students. If Afghans really hated Pakistan so much then they wouldnt have flocked in the 1000s to register themselves at ISI controlled madrassahs.

        Kind Regards

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        • #19
          Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
          i think in Afghanistan we have suffered more from Indian sponsored terrorism than Pakistani terrorism.
          Any source, proof, evidence or whatever them sending terrorists to Afghanistan?

          Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
          India supported the Northern Alliance
          Just like how Pakistan supported Taliban and the extremists amongst the Mujahideen. Just because Pakistan is known as an Islamic nation and India not, doesn't mean we are better off with Pakistan.

          Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
          and is currently supporting to colonists and their puppet regime of thieves, pillagers, sodomists and drug dealers.
          Exactly what Pakistan has being supporting all those decades. Except for you not having any proof against India while the net is full of proof against Pakistan.

          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
          In exchange of some help and money, afghanistan is providing its land for india to have terrorist activities in pakhtunkhwa and provide military assistance to baloch rebels.
          It's your government which in exchange a lot of money has let USA bomb entire Pakhtunkhwa since last few years because as far as I remember; It has been USA and your army involved in bombing Pakhtunkhwa, not India.

          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
          If afghanistan doesnt want friendly relations with pakistan then it should atleast remain neutral.
          As neutral as you were starting camps against Afghanistan? As neutral as you were while killing Daud Khan? As neutral as you were sending us Mujahideen? As neutral as you were sending us Taliban? As neutral as you are still sending us suicide bombers? And we aren't allowed to do anything in return? Neutralhood my foot!

          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
          Serving india as its loyal pet will lead it to nowhere.
          Yup, have you come a long way serving as pet of USA, UK, Saudi, China, and today the entire world!

          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
          For construction of a building you have become supporter of india?....any other reasons?
          For producing best doctors in Kabul. For students coming back from India as top students. For reconstruction efforts. For infrastructural efforts. For industrial efforts, and you name it. Or are you waiting for terrorism efforts as well? Sorry but they ain't Pakistan.

          Originally posted by Shadow Caster
          It makes me laugh when these afghanis kneel to a 3rd world country India.
          If friendship means kneeling (on whatever base it may be) then stop kneeling to China as well before laughing at anyone else mister Rupees.

          Originally posted by Shadow Caster
          If the situation remains like this sooner the hindunization of afghanistan will begin.
          Russianization hasn't taken place, Americanization hasn't taken place, Pakistanization hasn't taken place, nor will Hindunization take place. Don't worry, this is Afghanistan, not Pekhawer.

          Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
          We in Pakhtunkhwa who want peace and stability can live on and progress.
          Lemme guess, last six decades have been an example of that?

          Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
          You act as if Afghans were so weak that they couldnt stop the interfearance of Pakistan?
          You act as if Pakhtunkhwa was so innocent that it couldn't free itself from Indo-Pak referendum back in 1940's?

          Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
          Afghans choose to side with Pakistan when they both worked together to lure the Soviets into Afghanistan.
          And even you worked with Pakistan because of which till the day of today you are stuck with them. See how easy it is to point fingers without thinking?
          Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
            Any source, proof, evidence or whatever them sending terrorists to Afghanistan?


            Just like how Pakistan supported Taliban and the extremists amongst the Mujahideen. Just because Pakistan is known as an Islamic nation and India not, doesn't mean we are better off with Pakistan.


            Exactly what Pakistan has being supporting all those decades. Except for you not having any proof against India while the net is full of proof against Pakistan.


            It's your government which in exchange a lot of money has let USA bomb entire Pakhtunkhwa since last few years because as far as I remember; It has been USA and your army involved in bombing Pakhtunkhwa, not India.


            As neutral as you were starting camps against Afghanistan? As neutral as you were while killing Daud Khan? As neutral as you were sending us Mujahideen? As neutral as you were sending us Taliban? As neutral as you are still sending us suicide bombers? And we aren't allowed to do anything in return? Neutralhood my foot!


            Yup, have you come a long way serving as pet of USA, UK, Saudi, China, and today the entire world!


            For producing best doctors in Kabul. For students coming back from India as top students. For reconstruction efforts. For infrastructural efforts. For industrial efforts, and you name it. Or are you waiting for terrorism efforts as well? Sorry but they ain't Pakistan.


            If friendship means kneeling (on whatever base it may be) then stop kneeling to China as well before laughing at anyone else mister Rupees.


            Russianization hasn't taken place, Americanization hasn't taken place, Pakistanization hasn't taken place, nor will Hindunization take place. Don't worry, this is Afghanistan, not Pekhawer.


            Lemme guess, last six decades have been an example of that?


            You act as if Pakhtunkhwa was so innocent that it couldn't free itself from Indo-Pak referendum back in 1940's?


            And even you worked with Pakistan because of which till the day of today you are stuck with them. See how easy it is to point fingers without thinking?
            How could we free ourselves from the Indo-Pak referendum when your Persianized Rulers betrayed us and left us to the British?

            Where was your Afghan rulers and their support to the Pashtuns who opposed the referendom? where were the Objections from the Afghan side on a political level? why didnt you Afghans flock as you did to Pakistani Madrassahs to join with us to fight Pakistan?

            Of course Pashtuns fought agaisnt the refendem, Mirza Ali Khan was the one who continued his struggle agaisnt Pakistan but w8 w8 w8 who betrayed him and blocked his supplies and left alone???? ohh w8 w8 w8 It was Afghanistan.

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            • #21
              Shyesta

              Always remmeber who sold who for 12 lakh a year.

              Kind Regards

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                I dont know how much to stress that you Afghans with Pakistanis worked to destroy your own country. When you say Pakistan sends terrorists to your country I know 100 percent you are referring to Pashtuns from pashtunkhwa, Let me make this clear there are have been 100s of cases about Afghan Nationals being arrested in Pakistan for drug smuggling,kidnappings and Terrorism and you dont hear us saying Afghanistan sends us terrorists.

                I mean no offence to you but the destruction of Afghanistan was a joint venture by Afghan/Pakistani Madrassah students. If Afghans really hated Pakistan so much then they wouldnt have flocked in the 1000s to register themselves at ISI controlled madrassahs.

                Kind Regards
                What's up with the hatred remarks? Where did I mention Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa. Same old Maseed. Nothing but useless assumptions and insults. I said Pakistan when I say that I mean the Govt and spy agency.

                All you are doing on PF is creating division. If nationalists are like you, I want no part of unity or Nationalism. Try learning a thing or two on how to talk to women from Baygham and them. Don't be so cheap please.

                If you despise Pashtuns(Afghans)clearly you are in the wrong Forum.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by amna View Post
                  What's up with the hatred remarks? Where did I mention Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa. Same old Maseed. Nothing but useless assumptions and insults. I said Pakistan when I say that I mean the Govt and spy agency.

                  All you are doing on PF is creating division. If nationalists are like you, I want no part of unity or Nationalism. Try learning a thing or two on how to talk from Baygham and them.
                  Stop crying like a baby.

                  You said all that Pakistan has done is send you terrorists? Who are those Terrorists? Obviously you mean those Pashtuns crossing the border.

                  Plus you didnt even answer my comment or acknowledge but as usual due to weakness you resort to calling my comment as uselss assumptions.

                  I speak of Pashtun Unity and you say iam creating division because you guys cant let go of Tajiks and hazaras and your Afghaniat, while your fellow Afghans on here have a long history of calling Pashtuns frm Pashtunkhwa as Punjabis,ISI agents, No real Pashtuns, Fake Afghans etc.

                  I made a valid point here, There are 100s of cases in Pakistan of Afghan drug smugglers and kidnappers being arrested, so in logical sense without trying to be offensive towards your sensistive heart would make sense to say Afghans are sending terrorist and criminals into Pakistan? Am I right or as usual you will regard anything I say as assumptions and useless to feel secure about your own weakness and desire to get a big fat realty check.

                  Kind Regards

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                  • #24
                    Crying like a baby? Why did I even waste my time on someone as immature and childish like you. I apologize but I can't discuss something with somone who lacks the most basic etiquette of a debate. I should have learned from Qrratugai.
                    My apologies young man.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      How could we free ourselves from the Indo-Pak referendum when your Persianized Rulers betrayed us and left us to the British?
                      Same could be said about us; How could we have saved ourselves if Pekhawer allowed anti-Afghanistan members to take part in terroristic activities?

                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      Where was your Afghan rulers and their support to the Pashtuns who opposed the referendom? where were the Objections from the Afghan side on a political level?
                      Do you know why we were bombed in 1940's by Pakistan? Because we were asking them for chocolate. How mean, na?

                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      why didnt you Afghans flock as you did to Pakistani Madrassahs to join with us to fight Pakistan?
                      Why didn't you come and join Daud Khan's army instead of Pakistani army if you truly wanted freedom?

                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      Mirza Ali Khan was the one who continued his struggle agaisnt Pakistan but w8 w8 w8 who betrayed him and blocked his supplies and left alone???? ohh w8 w8 w8 It was Afghanistan.
                      Oh wait wait wait, where is your source for this claim? Oh wait wait wait, another lie caught! And oh who was the one rejecting another supporter of Pukhtoons called Bacha Khan? Oh wait wait wait, he was betrayed by everyone in Pakistan!

                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      Always remmeber who sold who for 12 lakh a year.
                      You also remember to provide proof stating such a contract being signed or either finger-printed and definitely don't forget that you have been sold by your own king as well, not just ours.

                      Kind regards back.
                      Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                        No doubt about it, lets hope that afghanistan become wealthy country sooner so that it doesnt have to earn by giving its soil to indians for using against pakistan....the name of mountain range in afghanistan is "hindu-kush" but nowadays it should be renamed to "hindu-yaar" or "hindu-lover"
                        More loyal to the king than the king himself. Punjabis wouldn't be that loyal to themselves as we are to them. And still we boost to be proud Pashtuns. Those who bow to others cannot have pride.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                          More loyal to the king than the king himself. Punjabis wouldn't be that loyal to themselves as we are to them. And still we boost to be proud Pashtuns. Those who bow to others cannot have pride.
                          Ofcourse we are filthy sell outs paaki dhalkhors who cant even count in pashto and are filthy punjabi slaves. and we have tasbeeh in our hands from which you are scared of.
                          Last edited by Michin Khel; 08-27-2010, 02:16 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Its the pakistan who supports and arm taliban
                            yet its afghans who make up the afghan taliban.

                            and its pakistani's who make up the TTP

                            stop living in denial mode, you talk as if pakistan is stopping afghanistan from being a super power liberal democracy, afghanistan and pashtuns still fiercely protect their age old tribal ways, and the taliban are an extreme expression of this

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by r3alist View Post
                              yet its afghans who make up the afghan taliban.

                              and its pakistani's who make up the TTP

                              stop living in denial mode, you talk as if pakistan is stopping afghanistan from being a super power liberal democracy, afghanistan and pashtuns still fiercely protect their age old tribal ways, and the taliban are an extreme expression of this
                              What about Punjabis who protect Sialkot killings of two innocen teenagers, the high levels of rape, the selling of girls to sardars and land owners.

                              Taliban is no expression of anything tribal nor Pashtun. Taliban are a bunch of Islamists who were supported by both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

                              I suggest you educate yourself properly before making tell tales up.

                              What about the Punjabi Taliban? or the Punjabi Islamist Terrosit groups? Are they protecting their fierce tribal ways?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                                What about Punjabis who protect Sialkot killings of two innocen teenagers, the high levels of rape, the selling of girls to sardars and land owners.

                                Taliban is no expression of anything tribal nor Pashtun. Taliban are a bunch of Islamists who were supported by both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

                                I suggest you educate yourself properly before making tell tales up.

                                What about the Punjabi Taliban? or the Punjabi Islamist Terrosit groups? Are they protecting their fierce tribal ways?
                                well yes, these are all big problems but thats a different issue altogether, the TTP are a new and recent phenomena.

                                i dont understand how you manage to absolve afghans of any responsibility for their own actions, the taliban is essentially pashtun in its makeup and are the remnants of the mujhadeen

                                these people were predisposed to backward thinking for centuries, the taliban was the logical conclusion after the US left and had created the mujhadeen, very sad but it seems true.

                                time and time again i ask if not the taliban then what in afghanistan?

                                once you create the monster there is no pain free solution

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