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[Nokia_Apridy]

Sallamona Pera..........

NA DA IRAN AFU____N YAM NA DA HINDI PATHAN
YAM PUKHTUM ZWAY DA PUKHTUNKHWA

Wos Poy shweay da Tolo Khalku awa khwakha

Migrate khalk na manu gani khpal hewad ba warla pragdu haha

ka nda ?

[AnGaaR]

I m an afghan
i am from Afghanistan


I am tired of these kinda topix too lol
Admina cherta wrok yai zalima.. kho rasha da topic merge ka.. this is kinda 3rd topic in a month with same meaning

[BehavedMaseed]

^ Dont worry shlombay jana, its not my voicve only. The fact is its voice of all pashtuns of pashtunkhwa.....u electronic afghanis are liar actually to put forward wrong information......ur dreams to break pakistan will never come true inshaAllah

Dear SOM roara

Pakistan will ultimately break itself. This is not what 'Afghanis' are saying, its what non pashtuns are saying. Pakistan will lead itself to civil war and those days of general zia, liaqat ali khan, jinnah and iqbal are long gone. Pakistan can not protect its own citizens let alone unify its nation, these are all signs of a up coming civil war. The Only Option for Pakistan is to keep supporting the Taliban to unify the nation under Islam but sadly USA wont allow that and we are already seeing signs of a strong uprising by the Baloch people and sooner or later the Pashtuns will gather pace.

However this does not mean we will all join Loy Afghanistan etc, it will lead to Pashtuns having their own state.

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Dear Maseed,

Those Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens and others you are insulted you need to understand these people have fought for Afghanistan. I am speaking of the ordinary people not the leaders who are sold out.

How many people in Pakistan have fought for the country? Besides living on American and British dollars they haven't accomplished anything.

In the name of Islam they killed many innocent Afghans and tortured those that were refugees in Pakistan and used them to make dollar.

Tell me would a Punjabi come to your rescue if you are in deep trouble? Would a Sindhi come to your rescue if you are in trouble? I can count on Tajiks,Uzbeks, Turkmens and other minorities to help me when I am in need of help.

I have seen first hand how helpful Pashtuns across the Durand line are to their Afghan Pashtuns. They were labeled many names and they were used and had to deal with harsh realities.

Afghans and particulary the Pashtuns of Afghanistan are known for their hospitality.

Has the Afghan Army ever came to our rescue in Waziristan when Pakistan Army bombs us daily?

What do you Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa living on British and American Dollars?

Wasnt is your Mujahideen who enjoyed the American and British dollars and used you as canon fodder to get on back on the Soviets?

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^ Dont worry shlombay jana, its not my voicve only. The fact is its voice of all pashtuns of pashtunkhwa.....u electronic afghanis are liar actually to put forward wrong information......ur dreams to break pakistan will never come true inshaAllah

Is this what we should say for the baloch people, for the qibaeel people, for the bengalis before them? Yaraa SOM asae yaw thaposs khpl khalko tha walae domra spak gorae?

[Nokia_Apridy]

BLS Khpalo rata spak ledley di

Gul da chay Parhar da Azgu na sa gela kaway
Khpal da chay Praday ki da pradu na sa gela....Tor Abudrehman ta Perzowana

Keday shi da haga hem Zra ka Gela wi ......

wail chay khpalo khars kram khair da ka pradey ma khars krey.....


Lag khpal grewan ka hem gura kala kala

[BLS_1919v2.0]

BLS Khpalo rata spak ledley di

Gul da chay Parhar da Azgu na sa gela kaway
Khpal da chay Praday ki da pradu na sa gela....Tor Abudrehman ta Perzowana

Keday shi da haga hem Zra ka Gela wi ......

wail chay khpalo khars kram khair da ka pradey ma khars krey.....


Lag khpal grewan ka hem gura kala kala

Thaso tha heetsok ham spak na dee leedalaee bas stha dagha da mohammazai saraa dae kaar dae dagha paighour dae pa tolo pa saar ra makhae tha karrae dae. Har qakht da 1835 ya da 1890s khabarae kae..zaalima agha zahir shah dyuu larrll...woss agha wrazae nur neestha...nu za hairaan yamm che dagha keesae walae har wakht. Dasae khabaro na Pashtaana khpae raakaagae.

[Nokia_Apridy]

Mangor khurlay da parey na hem yargey.......

[Fish]

Has the Afghan Army ever came to our rescue in Waziristan when Pakistan Army bombs us daily?

What do you Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa living on British and American Dollars?

Wasnt is your Mujahideen who enjoyed the American and British dollars and used you as canon fodder to get on back on the Soviets?

Kind Regards

Dear Maseed,

Afghan Army will never come to your rescue as it is fighting it's own war inside Afghanistan. You can't expect an Army leave it's own internal problems to solve problems of someone else who is the main supporter of the problems inside Afghanistan in the first place.

The war in Pakistan is a joke and those leaders who are fighting against the Paki army is a ISI game to fool the west. We see ordinary Pashtuns being killed and used, but who are to be blamed? Yesterday you were supporting the Taliban and today they are killing your people within the borders. Should we Afghans feel sorry and open our arms to you? What have you given Afghans in the past 30 years that Afghans should greet you and others with open arm and support you?

In this forum you and others have insulted Abdur Rahman Khan in many occasions, but the matter of fact is that the Pashtuns of Pakistan never wanted to be part of Afghanistan. They never wanted to be part of any nation. The leaders of those areas lived by British dollars if not than how else did they survive?

When Afghanistan fought against the British for it's freedom in 1919 the Afghan Army crossed the border and this brought fear to the British and forced them to pay the tribes of those areas to fight against the Afghan Army.

So why go ahead with accusations and lies when in reality the Pashtuns of Afghanistan have always tried to fight for the Pashtuns of Pakistan? Today Afghanistan faces the problems not because it was brought upon them by Allah swt or magically appeared, but because of it's Pashtunistan policy.

For decades those Pashtuns you call Persianized spoke off Pashtunistan, while you and others across the Durand Line were busy eating your dhall and not giving a darn about the Afghans and their desire for unification.

Those Persianized Pashtuns you have been insulting on this forum had and still have a lot more to loose than you and others whom speak Pashto but yet they still fight for Pashtun cause and for united country.

Have you ever thought to yourself why the Pashtuns of Afghanistan have less desire for Pashtuns across the Durand Line nowadays? Maybe if the Pashtuns of Afghanistan were treated equally and felt like being at a family members home in Pashtunistan they would have opened their arms today. But no it was quite the opposite they were used to do Pakistan's dirty job and today we suffer because of you and other so called proud Pashtuns of Pakistan.

Our leaders, our people and our land had to face the consequences of super powers and other nations just because we wanted UNIFICATION. What did Pashtuns of Pakistan do to make this happen?

The truth has be said and as much as it may hurt the Pashtuns of Pakistan are too greedy and i'd rather built my own country and focus on what we have than focus on those who used us and destroyed my country for something that only the Pashtuns of Afghanistan stood for not vice versa.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Dear Maseed,

Afghan Army will never come to your rescue as it is fighting it's own war inside Afghanistan. You can't expect an Army leave it's own internal problems to solve problems of someone else who is the main supporter of the problems inside Afghanistan in the first place.

The war in Pakistan is a joke and those leaders who are fighting against the Paki army is a ISI game to fool the west. We see ordinary Pashtuns being killed and used, but who are to be blamed? Yesterday you were supporting the Taliban and today they are killing your people within the borders. Should we Afghans feel sorry and open our arms to you? What have you given Afghans in the past 30 years that Afghans should greet you and others with open arm and support you?

In this forum you and others have insulted Abdur Rahman Khan in many occasions, but the matter of fact is that the Pashtuns of Pakistan never wanted to be part of Afghanistan. They never wanted to be part of any nation. The leaders of those areas lived by British dollars if not than how else did they survive?

When Afghanistan fought against the British for it's freedom in 1919 the Afghan Army crossed the border and this brought fear to the British and forced them to pay the tribes of those areas to fight against the Afghan Army.

So why go ahead with accusations and lies when in reality the Pashtuns of Afghanistan have always tried to fight for the Pashtuns of Pakistan? Today Afghanistan faces the problems not because it was brought upon them by Allah swt or magically appeared, but because of it's Pashtunistan policy.

For decades those Pashtuns you call Persianized spoke off Pashtunistan, while you and others across the Durand Line were busy eating your dhall and not giving a darn about the Afghans and their desire for unification.

Those Persianized Pashtuns you have been insulting on this forum had and still have a lot more to loose than you and others whom speak Pashto but yet they still fight for Pashtun cause and for united country.

Have you ever thought to yourself why the Pashtuns of Afghanistan have less desire for Pashtuns across the Durand Line nowadays? Maybe if the Pashtuns of Afghanistan were treated equally and felt like being at a family members home in Pashtunistan they would have opened their arms today. But no it was quite the opposite they were used to do Pakistan's dirty job and today we suffer because of you and other so called proud Pashtuns of Pakistan.

Our leaders, our people and our land had to face the consequences of super powers and other nations just because we wanted UNIFICATION. What did Pashtuns of Pakistan do to make this happen?

The truth has be said and as much as it may hurt the Pashtuns of Pakistan are too greedy and i'd rather built my own country and focus on what we have than focus on those who used us and destroyed my country for something that only the Pashtuns of Afghanistan stood for not vice versa.

That is a very loose interpretation of history. It seems to me that both of you are happily employing these loose historical tactics to justify each other. No really continue lolz

[Fish]

That is a very loose interpretation of history. It seems to me that both of you are happily employing these loose historical tactics to justify each other. No really continue lolz

Dear BLS,

I am not here to insult the Pashtuns of Pakistan, but we can't hide the truth either.

Pashtuns in Pakistan have no desire to be either part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. They have played this policy for centuries many of the leaders during the era of Daud Khan were paid by Afghanistan, but in return what did they give Afghans?

I have noticed many insults by Pashtuns of Pakistan on this forum towards Afghans and those Pashtuns that are Persianized in their terminology. It's quite ironic and interesting that while those that Speak Pashto never had the courage to speak about Pashtunistan and unification with their motherland, while those that couldn't speak a single word of Pashto had always been fighting for unification of Pashtunistan with Afghanistan.

What would a person like myself and those that reside in Herat, Farah, Kabul, Kunduz, Kapisa and other areas gain from unification? We have more too lose and yet people from these areas and myself speak of Unification. How many Pashtuns of this forum want to unite with a person like myself and others?

As I mentioned they are too greedy and I don't wish to disrespect them, but it's the reality. Tomorrow if Afghanistan is rebuilt and progress more than Pakistan, Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa will join the bandwagon of Afghanistan. Twenty years later down the road if Pakistan moves ahead of Afghanistan then they will join the bandwagon of Pakistan again.

Who has suffered more for Pashtuns?Afghanistan or Pakistan? Who suffers more today for the cause of Pashtuns? Afghanistan or Pakistan?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Dear BLS,

I am not here to insult the Pashtuns of Pakistan, but we can't hide the truth either.

Pashtuns in Pakistan have no desire to be either part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. They have played this policy for centuries many of the leaders during the era of Daud Khan were paid by Afghanistan, but in return what did they give Afghans?

I have noticed many insults by Pashtuns of Pakistan on this forum towards Afghans and those Pashtuns that are Persianized in their terminology. It's quite ironic and interesting that while those that Speak Pashto never had the courage to speak about Pashtunistan and unification with their motherland, while those that couldn't speak a single word of Pashto had always been fighting for unification of Pashtunistan with Afghanistan.

What would a person like myself and those that reside in Herat, Farah, Kabul, Kunduz, Kapisa and other areas gain from unification? We have more too lose and yet people from these areas and myself speak of Unification. How many Pashtuns of this forum want to unite with a person like myself and others?

As I mentioned they are too greedy and I don't wish to disrespect them, but it's the reality. Tomorrow if Afghanistan is rebuilt and progress more than Pakistan, Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa will join the bandwagon of Afghanistan. Twenty years later down the road if Pakistan moves ahead of Afghanistan then they will join the bandwagon of Pakistan again.

Who has suffered more for Pashtuns?Afghanistan or Pakistan? Who suffers more today for the cause of Pashtuns? Afghanistan or Pakistan?

Pashtuns in those areas obviously will bear that scar considering that this was the policy of Britain vis a vis Afghanistan. They sold the land and it was further divided in such a way that it was neither within British India nor returned to Afghanistan. For that matter both the throne in Kabul and Britain double-played with the people in that region. If we are going to speak that truth, then speak it entirely. Don't half ass it. When Nadir Shah needed to secure his throne, it were these qibaeel people who did the job for him. When they needed troops in the third anglo-Afghan war, they made the bulk of the troops (this isn't to say ANA didn't, but more than half were from Pashtunkhwa). What happened then? They were still within the writ of British India.

When Pakistan was created and the Khudai Khidmathgars rejected the referendum, and opted for Pashtunistan what then? When Zahir Shah had the chance to to attack in 48, 65, 71 what then? The blame should be equally distributed. Don't act as if people east of the durand line didn't fight, they did and suffered a lot at the hands of Britain and then Pakistan. However, there were people like Hekmatyaar and Massoud who actively took ISI money and training to destabilize the same Sardar Daod. Faqir I ipi was fighting in waziristan, you know he was a great person to support, but what happened there? Zahir Shah himself was too weak to reclaim his territory. The one he owed to the people of Pashtunkhwa who suffered at the hands of Britain and those that helped his father gain the throne. So be fair when you mention Sardar daoud..he was idealistic but a foolish man politically. He tried to play both sides and then went to the same Pakistan to settle it. However, what was the point, when he was among the Pashtuns who bungled their only state?


Now I will be fair and now point the faults of Pashtunkhwa as well. They let a bunch of ISI come in and manipulate their society. They fought free fights for Pakistan on the basis of islam and hindu. Only to be humiliated by the same Pakistan. Even today some of them are showing respect to Pakistan. Now if this isn't the maqaam of sharm and daosee then I don't know what is? There were people like Babar, like Ghulam Ishaq khan, like Roedad khan that sold their pashto for Pakistan. Do you know where Roedad is? He is crying over this pakistan, even wrote a book about the screw up it turned out to be. And he was their pakistanae. Babar is a senile man and his legacy to his own people and moranae wathan is militants. Some even actively serve in their army...and are proud of it. Is it right? No. However don't shoulder the blame on one side. They salute jinnah, but his progeny openly kill Pashtuns in karachi and bombed them from hell and back in Pashtunkhwa. You know the count of blood? In karachi, one mqm = 80 pashtuns. When Tirah, dir and Mohmand were devastated by bombings (suicide and army), the Pak media were talking about sania mirza and Shoaib malik..that is the respect they have (or chowkidaar, naswarae, talib, smuggller). It is really funny some of them blame Afghanistan Pashtuns for the problems in peshawar, but when they cross into panjab or sindh people check their cars for drugs lolzz. And we all know how Swat IDPs were treated.

If Pashtuns on either side were worth half of all the merit they would have achieved a lot, but unfortunately and from this forum we can see certain people are more content in one- upping each other.

BTW Kunduz and shamaal don't lose out from Pashtunkhwa...if anything both gain a lot. Both politically, trade wise, and the vast amounts of resources that are available compensate for more than enough.

[BehavedMaseed]

Dear BLS,

I am not here to insult the Pashtuns of Pakistan, but we can't hide the truth either.

Pashtuns in Pakistan have no desire to be either part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. They have played this policy for centuries many of the leaders during the era of Daud Khan were paid by Afghanistan, but in return what did they give Afghans?

I have noticed many insults by Pashtuns of Pakistan on this forum towards Afghans and those Pashtuns that are Persianized in their terminology. It's quite ironic and interesting that while those that Speak Pashto never had the courage to speak about Pashtunistan and unification with their motherland, while those that couldn't speak a single word of Pashto had always been fighting for unification of Pashtunistan with Afghanistan.

What would a person like myself and those that reside in Herat, Farah, Kabul, Kunduz, Kapisa and other areas gain from unification? We have more too lose and yet people from these areas and myself speak of Unification. How many Pashtuns of this forum want to unite with a person like myself and others?

As I mentioned they are too greedy and I don't wish to disrespect them, but it's the reality. Tomorrow if Afghanistan is rebuilt and progress more than Pakistan, Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa will join the bandwagon of Afghanistan. Twenty years later down the road if Pakistan moves ahead of Afghanistan then they will join the bandwagon of Pakistan again.

Who has suffered more for Pashtuns?Afghanistan or Pakistan? Who suffers more today for the cause of Pashtuns? Afghanistan or Pakistan?

Ha Ha Ha this is typical!

Let me remind you of your betraying Afghan rulers who firstly sold us to the British, then betrayed us again(faqir of ipi) and then you betrayed us again(amanullah) and then you betray us again(Daud). When times get hard you guys run away just as you have done throughout History.

and in response to your comment

"to solve problems of someone else who is the main supporter of the problems inside Afghanistan in the first place"

let me remind you buddy, that Waziristan is packed full of AFGHAN TALIBS, your brother haqqani is sat in Waziristan killing the people there and brainwashing them to fight in Afghanistan.

And as for your previous comment blaiming Pakistani Pashtuns about brainwashing Afghan Pashtuns Oh come on buddy

The Peshawer Seven were not educated in Pakhtunkhwa, They were educated in Afghanistan and Arab states.

Firstly you guys need to make Afghanistan a Pashtun state before you see any acceptance from us, other than that you can live your whole lives being dominated by your own Minorities.

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Ha Ha Ha this is typical!

Let me remind you of your betraying Afghan rulers who firstly sold us to the British, then betrayed us again(faqir of ipi) and then you betrayed us again(amanullah) and then you betray us again(Daud). When times get hard you guys run away just as you have done throughout History.

and in response to your comment

"to solve problems of someone else who is the main supporter of the problems inside Afghanistan in the first place"

let me remind you buddy, that Waziristan is packed full of AFGHAN TALIBS, your brother haqqani is sat in Waziristan killing the people there and brainwashing them to fight in Afghanistan.

And as for your previous comment blaiming Pakistani Pashtuns about brainwashing Afghan Pashtuns Oh come on buddy

The Peshawer Seven were not educated in Pakhtunkhwa, They were educated in Afghanistan and Arab states.

Firstly you guys need to make Afghanistan a Pashtun state before you see any acceptance from us, other than that you can live your whole lives being dominated by your own Minorities.

Kind Regards

Maseed before you throw paighour on Afghanistan, the responsibility to create Afghanistan and pashtunkhwa into pashtun states fall on us. Let us not get carried away. And please stop with afg vs pashtunkhwa..it is getting irritating. Both have a long way to go and a lot of dirt to wipe (mostly from themselves).

[Nokia_Apridy]

Maseed before you throw paighour on Afghanistan,

ao da ta kama pa Shudu Ulambwalu munga ?