Pashtun Nationalists on PF are primarily Kaafirs.

[شمله ور خراساني]

the people gets together under diffirent banners. but sangara wrora to you if some one doesnot agree with you is labeled as kafir. if these guys work for the betterment of pashtun and they fight for our rights who cares what their religion is. if you believe me or not if a pashtun reject islam he will never another faith. there must be a reason. you can enlist my name as well if you consider the taliban as muslim.

working for betterment? By supporting America? By insulting our religion? By mocking our beliefs? By promoting colonialism? By promoting Pashtun fascism?

I rather be bitten by poisonous snakes than unite with people like that.

[muhsina]

Sangar

Are you a by-product precipitate of some mufti? You are a feeble minded brainless retard who thinks,if at all, with his little head. Please include my name too.

It is better to be brave and courageous kafir in your version of religion than to be a sellout pet of bedoin wahabis.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I agree but at times wouldnt it be nice for minorities?

We have hindu and sikh minorities. Plus a large group of Rafidi shi'ites. They cannot become rulers. Even in a secular society as the Netherlands, you wont ever see a Muslim becoming the prime minister. Because they would simply block you from reaching that level. Since it is contradictory to the image of this Christian Liberal society. And this is a secular society.

So why complain about Islamic society which is not ambigious. Neither does it tell lies. We dont allow certain things. And we are honest to say so. Not like secular societies where they tell you you have rights, but they block you from influencing the politics of the society. And the media helping anti-Islamic movements to gain influence.

[Sheenka]

omg, who says they wana leave islaam?

thats unbelievable :P

[Catya Sher]

re Aseer Jan earlier remark: Oh, OK, I didn't realize that.
Do you or anyone have an estimate of what percentage of PF falls into each category -
I am not the one to even suggest the categories, but
Nationalist
Islamic
Neither - here for Culture, language, chat

Is there a category for mildly Islamic but more nationalist?
I don't understand these nuances.

Could anyone explain better ?

[muhsina]

Islam is not the issue for nationalists. What nationalists say is that we should safeguard our national interests against our political enemies. As far as religion is concerned everybody is free to embrace whatever religion s/he opts for. There is no compulsion in religion. And if someone believes that Politics should not be segregated from religion than you see a state will reduce to a small town of either some wahabis, or barelvis or shias etc.


What we need to make sure that all have their political and civil rights in a state and all serve it as equal citizen. If someone thinks that s/he should spread religion then s/he should specialise in theological studies and accepts the challenges of the academia instead of running away from arguments from other schools of thought. As long as his teachings do not clash with the safety and security and sovereignty of the state s/he can preach his version in a decent way not by force which will be considered as a violation of civil rights.


I do not know why is it such a rocket science to understand.

[Sheenka]

im not flooding im asking question

[BehavedMaseed]

If you hate us Kaffirs so much Sangar then please go and enroll with the taliban and maybe hamid gul will give you a pat on your shoulder.

Plus fellow Nationalists shud report this Sangar to Admin for calling us out and insulting us.

This should be against forum rules.

Sangar is fustrated because hes had a reality slap in his face that not all Pashtuns are islamist wahabist terrorists.

Kind Regards

[شمله ور خراساني]

how did I insult you? Aren't you a Kaafir? have you converted back to Islam? When?

If you hate us Kaffirs so much Sangar then please go and enroll with the taliban and maybe hamid gul will give you a pat on your shoulder.

Plus fellow Nationalists shud report this Sangar to Admin for calling us out and insulting us.

This should be against forum rules.

Sangar is fustrated because hes had a reality slap in his face that not all Pashtuns are islamist wahabist terrorists.

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Also I was banned by this same Sangar and his crew complaining to Admins about me.

Sangar has done nothing constructive but use this forum as a base to spread his Saudi Backwardness Wahabism and call for hatred towards Shias,Sufis,Qadanis and Nationalis.

He is a Open Taliban supporter sat in Holland in a secular country spreading his Terrorism litrature. Not only should we report him to the respective authorities of his country of stay but He must not use this forum to spread religionous bigotry

Yes we Nationalists say bad things about punjabis/tajiks etc because its A PASHTUN FORUM so we are entitled to discuss matters of ethicitiy in regards to Pashtuns.

If the forum was called WahabiForums/afghanforums/killashiaforums then we wouldnt be discussing nationalism wud we.

Sangar calls people KAffirs because HE CUD NEVERRRR EVERRR WIN AND DEFEAT OUR SECULAR SCHOLARS DAWAZI,LZ,KHYAAL AND OTHER BIG CHAMPIONS.

all he does is mock people! Whenever i spoke about Taliban he wud mock me and say iam a enemy of Islam, so i decided to pack my bags from Islam just becos of his constant mocking of me!

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

how did I insult you? Aren't you a Kaafir? have you converted back to Islam? When?

Sangar you speak very big on forums
I know your tail will wag in face to face.

I left your faith BECOS OF UR CONSTANT MOCKING OF ME in regards to Taliban.

You said I am a devient and a Kaffir so what i say about your Hamid guls speebachun taliban is all lies!

You are reason why i will never ever call myself a Muslim.

Kind Regards

[شمله ور خراساني]

What? You are a kafir because someone you know from internet? I did not know I have so much power to influence you so much..

Sangar you speak very big on forums
I know your tail will wag in face to face.

I left your faith BECOS OF UR CONSTANT MOCKING OF ME in regards to Taliban.

You said I am a devient and a Kaffir so what i say about your Hamid guls speebachun taliban is all lies!

You are reason why i will never ever call myself a Muslim.

Kind Regards

[شمله ور خراساني]

Also I was banned by this same Sangar and his crew complaining to Admins about me.

Sangar has done nothing constructive but use this forum as a base to spread his Saudi Backwardness Wahabism and call for hatred towards Shias,Sufis,Qadanis and Nationalis.

He is a Open Taliban supporter sat in Holland in a secular country spreading his Terrorism litrature. Not only should we report him to the respective authorities of his country of stay but He must not use this forum to spread religionous bigotry

Yes we Nationalists say bad things about punjabis/tajiks etc because its A PASHTUN FORUM so we are entitled to discuss matters of ethicitiy in regards to Pashtuns.

If the forum was called WahabiForums/afghanforums/killashiaforums then we wouldnt be discussing nationalism wud we.

Sangar calls people KAffirs because HE CUD NEVERRRR EVERRR WIN AND DEFEAT OUR SECULAR SCHOLARS DAWAZI,LZ,KHYAAL AND OTHER BIG CHAMPIONS.

all he does is mock people! Whenever i spoke about Taliban he wud mock me and say iam a enemy of Islam, so i decided to pack my bags from Islam just becos of his constant mocking of me!

Kind Regards

Lol. I don't know if I should cry or laugh.

[BehavedMaseed]

Lol. I don't know if I should cry or laugh.

Your a 28 year old grown man, I wonder if i should laugh at you or respect your excuses to be on state welfare.

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Out of 1500 members only 10 are kaffir.


Maseed I think you were banned cause you constantly insulted many like Qrratugai and others but you said you will behave so that isnt a problem. But I do remember it wasnt cause of him. You even called all Afghans a few bad words. I remember Shlombay praised your tribe but in response you insulted him.


But thats the past anyways.

Shombley called Maseeds as drug kingpins and those killed by mqm were maseed drug dealers. My relatives friends were killed by mqm and they were not drug dealers so that is why i got upset with him but everything is sorted.

Sangar is protected by Afghans on this forum and Alqueda terrorists are present on this forum they spread videos secretly posing as ligit litrature, I did tell and report those videos to Admin Khan Lala many times and was thanked for it.

Kind Regards