Pashtun Nationalists on PF are primarily Kaafirs.

[شمله ور خراساني]

As salaamu aleikoum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

Ever since I joined this forum, I have not seen much but Pashtun Nationalists attacking Islam. From their Pir, Pir Rokhan to their canonfodder, Maseed, most are kuffaar.

What kind of movement is this if they do not even have the same religion as 99% of Pashtuns?

They talk of unity and what not, yet they dont even share the same religion with us.

They keep attacking us and ridiculing us. And this is suppose to be a movement that represents Pashtuns?

Most of them can't even go to their own village and speak out loud saying the trash they post here on daily bases. yet they want to be members of some political party that is going to rule Pashtuns?

Here is what I have gathered so far:

Pir Rokhan = Kaafir,

Dawezai = kaafir

Misbehaved KafirYarMaseed, Kaafir,

Lewanye Zalmay = Kaafir

Shah Jamshayd = Kaafir

Baygham = Kaafir

Amir Al Ghaznavi = Kaafir

Gulalai = Kaafir

Toramana = Kaafir

Comrade Pashtun = Kaafir

Muhsina = Kaafir

Only a few of them who are still confused claim to be muslims and nationalists at the same time. But the most outspoken nationalists are these kuffaar and murtadeen.

[Sheenka]

LOL
isn't it haram to tell muslim kaafir?

[شمله ور خراساني]

LOL
isn't it haram to tell muslim kaafir?

which one is a muslim? please tell me. If I am wrong, then I will change the list.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Well they promote secularism. Which means a seperation of the church and state. But I do agree without Islam no Pashtun would side with them since Islam is part of Pashtun identity.

Separating Islam from politics in an Islamic society is kufr. Who ever does not wish to govern with laws from quran and sunnah becomes an apostate.

[khyaal]

As salaamu aleikoum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

Ever since I joined this forum, I have not seen much but Pashtun Nationalists attacking Islam. From their Pir, Pir Rokhan to their canonfodder, Maseed, most are kuffaar.

What kind of movement is this if they do not even have the same religion as 99% of Pashtuns?

They talk of unity and what not, yet they dont even share the same religion with us.

They keep attacking us and ridiculing us. And this is suppose to be a movement that represents Pashtuns?

Most of them can't even go to their own village and speak out loud saying the trash they post here on daily bases. yet they want to be members of some political party that is going to rule Pashtuns?

Here is what I have gathered so far:

Pir Rokhan = Kaafir,

Dawezai = kaafir

Misbehaved KafirYarMaseed, Kaafir,

Lewanye Zalmay = Kaafir

Shah Jamshayd = Kaafir

Baygham = Kaafir

Amir Al Ghaznavi = Kaafir

Gulalai = Kaafir

Toramana = Kaafir

Comrade Pashtun = Kaafir

Only a few of them who are still confused claim to be muslims and nationalists at the same time. But the most outspoken nationalists are these kuffaar and murtadeen.

Ya Allah shukar di che zama nama yai pake na da leekale.

[Sheenka]

gualai

well, i dont know whats going wid u guys

but dewazi was discribed as genius

[شمله ور خراساني]

gualai

well, i dont know whats going wid u guys

but dewazi was discribed as genius

gulalai with a - is a muslimah alhamdulilah. Probably one of the best sisters on PF.

But Gulalai without the - is a kaafir.

[Sheenka]

Ya Allah shukar di che zama nama yai pake na da leekale.

ta hum paaki yee

[afghan]

the people gets together under diffirent banners. but sangara wrora to you if some one doesnot agree with you is labeled as kafir. if these guys work for the betterment of pashtun and they fight for our rights who cares what their religion is. if you believe me or not if a pashtun reject islam he will never another faith. there must be a reason. you can enlist my name as well if you consider the taliban as muslim.

[Sheenka]

gulalai with a - is a muslimah alhamdulilah. Probably one of the best sisters on PF.

But Gulalai without the - is a kaafir.

can u explain it plzz
why?

[شمله ور خراساني]

can u explain it plzz
why?

read her posts.

[khyaal]

ta hum paaki yee

Ya Allah khair! So he edited the list and included my name too?

[Catya Sher]

As a relative newcomer here, I would like to see a specific breakdown of where each of the main posters here is coming from.
That would actually help - I think.
But maybe not a good idea.

Mainly because when one is posting and someone lashes back, then one wants to be able to grasp immediately the poster's general point of view.

Like for example: socialist-democratic, socialist, pure nationalist, Communist [I know we may have one of those I guess. Are there more ?!!]

Maybe there would be a lot of disagreement about categorizations of various people.
But why not use this constructively as a springboard to have people say "No I really am not like that, I am like THIS."

So there is no misunderstanding that could be avoided.

I feel such a list which could added as we all go along here, would help make people's general positions clear.

Myself I was surprised that many people were not in favor of boycotting Israel.
I thought that would be an absolute bottom line given!
Perhaps they are - what? Nationalists?
Secularists?
Simply don't care, that is a-political?

This suggestion is not meant to target anybody.
Just to make things a bit clearer for some of us new people.

[Sheenka]

which there loads

[Sheenka]

Ya Allah khair! So he edited the list and included my name too?

omg, and ur happy