Kakaristan

[kakar]

I support a Kakaristan district within a united Lar Pakhtunkhwa province encompassing KP/Tribal Areas/Janoubi Pakhtunkhwa

Exactly. We are in large numbers. In Loy Afghanistan what will our district be called? Our district should be named after us. Yes we speak Kandahari Pashto but that does not mean we have to automatically be part of Loy Kandahar.

No disrespect to Kandaharis. out of all the provinces of Afghanistan and districts of Pakhtunkhwa I am fan of Kandahar. They are brave people and historically proven to be great leaders with exception of Karzai. But we want to be Kakaristan district of Kandahar. we speak like them but we dont just want to be be squeezed in Kandahar. We can be part of Kakaristan district of Loy Kandahar.

I hope my Kandahari brothers take no offence. I respect you a lot but we have a right to have a district named after us. its not fair. My elders are all unhappy to be called that we living in Baluchistan. We are not Baluchis.

[khyaal]

Not all Yousafzai are immigrants. When Malik Ahmad Baba fled from Olagh Begh along with his tribe and migrated to Swat the then tribal elder of Swat 'Sultan Was' too was yousafzai. Later on these newly immigrated Yousafzi fought against the local ones. For your information, Yousafzi or Aspiosi were there in that region even during the times of Alexander's invasion on Afghan land.

[kakar]

Not all Yousafzai are immigrants. When Malik Ahmad Baba fled from Olagh Begh along with his tribe and migrated to Swat the then tribal elder of Swat 'Sultan Was' too was yousafzai. Later on these newly immigrated Yousafzi fought against the local ones. For your information, Yousafzi or Aspiosi were there in that region even during the times of Alexander's invasion on Afghan land.

modern day swat was not yusufzai area. it was SWATI tribe.

my point is if SWATI tribe had swat. Marwat has lakki marwat. Wazir tribe have Waziristan why are you discriminating against us Kakar?

If you combine Yusufzai, Achakzai, Noorzai and MARWAT we Kakars still outnumber them alone.

[Mayana]

[khyaal]

modern day swat was not yusufzai area. it was SWATI tribe.

my point is if SWATI tribe had swat. Marwat has lakki marwat. Wazir tribe have Waziristan why are you discriminating against us Kakar?

If you combine Yusufzai, Achakzai, Noorzai and MARWAT we Kakars still outnumber them alone.

Malgarya ! you are erecting your structure based on misinformations. The land of Swat has always belonged to Yousafzai tribe. Sultan Pakal and Sultan Was were Yousafzai too.

[kakar]

I expected you not to have a response.

If you feel fit for discussion come again.

[kakar]

you are changing discussion topic Khayaal. Answer me.

[Mayana]

I expected you not to have a response.

If you feel fit for discussion come again.

Listen, Kakara.
The only one who does not have a response is you.

I asked you several things, I came up with several arguments. first you were not even able to reply and referred me to the article you shared.
Secondly, all you ever came up with was "Waziris has Waziristan, Swatis have Swat, I want Kakaristan." No matter what I argued, your reply always was that you just want Kakaristan and what my problem with the formation of Kakaristan is. Now, you're gonna tell me again that Kakars supposedly are in a 70% majority in Balochistan and you don't want to be under Baloch rule and want a Kakaristan completely ignoring any of the arguments I ever brought up.

Reply once you have looked up the concept of "discussion".

[kakar]

Listen, Kakara.
The only one who does not have a response is you.

I asked you several things, I came up with several arguments. first you were not even able to reply and referred me to the article you shared.
Secondly, all you ever came up with was "Waziris has Waziristan, Swatis have Swat, I want Kakaristan." No matter what I argued, your reply always was that you just want Kakaristan and what my problem with the formation of Kakaristan is. Now, you're gonna tell me again that Kakars supposedly are in a 70% majority in Balochistan and you don't want to be under Baloch rule and want a Kakaristan completely ignoring any of the arguments I ever brought up.

Reply once you have looked up the concept of "discussion".

Its either you do not understand. or you do not read properly. I said He said that 70% of the population in the Pashtun areas comprises the Kakars. Hence, the province should be divided and a new province by the name of Kakiristan should be made. We will be Kakaristan district of Loy Kandahar province of Loy Afghanistan.

What argument did you bring up? you said why I want it. I said if Wazirs,Swati,Marwats,Buneris have it why cant we? Are we 2nd class Pashtuns?

[khyaal]

you are changing discussion topic Khayaal. Answer me.

Answer you what ? You already based your argument on misinformations and misconceptions. Your were told that the biggest tribe Yousafzi doesn't have land after their name, and also that Wazirsitan was a creation of the British, a name which was put for the part of land separated from Loya Paktia. You can't show me a single part of the land in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa which is named after a tribe.

[Mayana]

Its either you do not understand. or you do not read properly. I said He said that 70% of the population in the Pashtun areas comprises the Kakars. Hence, the province should be divided and a new province by the name of Kakiristan should be made. We will be Kakaristan district of Loy Kandahar province of Loy Afghanistan.

What argument did you bring up? you said why I want it. I said if Wazirs,Swati,Marwats,Buneris have it why cant we? Are we 2nd class Pashtuns?

What do you mean, why can't you? You think you are the only tribe without a province named after their tribe Balochistan is called Balochistan for a reason - the place of Balochs. You mentioned you're from Speen Boldak, so from that it can be assumed that the Kakars in Balochistan are not originally from Balochistan. So what you're arguing is that you're gonna go to Balochistan as a refugee and make many babies so you have a big Kakar population and then claim the province?

There are MANY many maaany Mexicans in California, too, yet you don't see them form Mexcistan here.

This is not about being second class citizens. Mohammadzian in Maiwand don't have a province named after them either, and they're still not second class citizens because of that.

[kakar]

What do you mean, why can't you? You think you are the only tribe without a province named after their tribe Balochistan is called Balochistan for a reason - the place of Balochs. You mentioned you're from Speen Boldak, so from that it can be assumed that the Kakars in Balochistan are not originally from Balochistan. So what you're arguing is that you're gonna go to Balochistan as a refugee and make many babies so you have a big Kakar population and then claim the province?

There are MANY many maaany Mexicans in California, too, yet you don't see them form Mexcistan here.

This is not about being second class citizens. Mohammadzian in Maiwand don't have a province named after them either, and they're still not second class citizens because of that.

you think Baluchsitan was full Baluchistan? have you studied history? Quetta and its surrounding lands were part of Afghanistan and they were part of Loya Kandahar.

you are being illogical by comparing us to tribes that even our sub tribes of Kakar exceed.

am I ask for too much that we should take the Pashtun dominated land of Baluchistan which is 70 percent Kakar and name it after us? Mohammadzai are not our size.

[Mayana]

So while you're at bringing up history, when has Kakaristan ever existed? Balochistan was part of Afghanistan, I am very well aware of that. You're not even FROM Balochistan, if you don't want to be under foreign rule, go back to Speen Boldak. If you're scared, don't complain about being under foreign rule.

[khyaal]

Wai da kho Maajar di. lol

[khyaal]

Maajara! One of your kakar, i.i.e., Usman kakar is the provincial president of PkMAP Southern Pakhtunkhwa the most influential pashtun party there..