Kakaristan

[BehavedMaseed]

Aren't they arguing same thing we want the area named after us?


Kind Regards

You see this is where the weaknesses show amongst Pashtuns as a whole. When it comes to our tribe we act as if we are a state within a tribe.

Few Months ago Keyani even suggested to create a Mahsudistan province and separate it away from our Wazir brothers.

Pakistan will divide us on tribe name and tribal affliation same as the British did when they divided hill tribes from tribes of the plain lands.

We should invest our energy in the unity of all Pashtuns regardless of their tribe.

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

ISI's all moves are not paid off, recently thier backing of taliban in swat back fired and they have to pay heavy price. On the face of it I say bring it on, anything that gives identity to Pakhtuns where they don't have it, they should have it.

It might as well be backed by ISI to somehow calm or slowdown the Baluch sepration movement, but as a by product Pakhtuns can benifit from it.

You are right taliban are back firing in those areas...but this is an illogical thing to do in south pashtunkhwa. You see the demand in south pashtunkhwa is that balochistan is a misnomer so it should create a seperate province and unite it with Khyber Pashtunkhwa. This movement was purposely created to divert from that issue. In balochistan and Pashtunkhwa, there is support accross the board for south pashtunkhwa and khyber pashtunkhwa to be unified...however the centre (ghq, panjab, etc) are against it. That is why these so-called movements are used.

[eusuphxai]

You are right taliban are back firing in those areas...but this is an illogical thing to do in south pashtunkhwa. You see the demand in south pashtunkhwa is that balochistan is a misnomer so it should create a seperate province and unite it with Khyber Pashtunkhwa. This movement was purposely created to divert from that issue. In balochistan and Pashtunkhwa, there is support accross the board for south pashtunkhwa and khyber pashtunkhwa to be unified...however the centre (ghq, panjab, etc) are against it. That is why these so-called movements are used.

But i see it as a step towards it, maybe I am too naive!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

But i see it as a step towards it, maybe I am too naive!

Allah u aalim Eusaphzai, anything is possible. I mean how many people actually thought Malakand division particularly swat would go through an army drama and floods? Anything is possible, but I see this whole kakaristan as just a ploy to sidetrack the real issue in south Pashtunkhwa. Unfortunately, people there are well aware and have paid little attention to this.

[IamDZJ]

that is it, i want me a country of my own too!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

that is it, i want me a country of my own too!

Will I be allowed to enter this state of yours or am I hostile enemy :-p?

[IamDZJ]

really it depends. what will you bringing in with you?

[BehavedMaseed]

Farsi speakers=Tajikistan/Iran

Uzbek Speakers=Uzbekistan

Pashto Speakers=Loy Pakhtunkhwa

Kind Regards

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

I support a Kakaristan district within a united Lar Pakhtunkhwa province encompassing KP/Tribal Areas/Janoubi Pakhtunkhwa

[Master Khan]

What this is stupid!, We are all pashtuns and we should be fighting for Pashtunistan!..forget about tribes.

[khyaal]

Farsi speakers=Tajikistan/Iran

Uzbek Speakers=Uzbekistan

Pashto Speakers=Loy Pakhtunkhwa

Kind Regards

But Maseeda the people of Tajikistan mostly speak Russian language although Tajiki is the official language.

[kakar]

Ta gora, chi ta nan Kakaristan ghoareh, saba Yusufzian Yusufzistan ghoari, balsaba Mohammadzian Mohammadzistan ghoari. Because they are under 'foreign rule' as well.

This utopia has absolutely no foundation in history, Kakristan never existed, where did this idea even come from? If Kakar people of Balochistan truly were seeking independence from Balochistan they would strive for a Loy Afghanistan, they'd strive to be part of the country they originally are from. What is a Kakaristan gonna do? It's not gonna be stable, it's not gonna be secure, it's not gonna have any legitimate raison d'etre.

Rather than seeking individual peace in individual autonomous provinces we should seek collective peace in a Loy Afghanistan, inshAllahw a ta'ala.

we are in large numbers. Wazirs have Waziristan. Marwats have Marwat I can name other tribes too. What is your problem with us getting away from Baluchistan? Do you want me be known as the Kakar from Spin boldak who lives in Baluchistan?? or who lives in KAKARISTAN.

[kakar]

Don't be foolish..Buner, Swat, and Shangla are majority Yousafzais. These are named after their respective regions and all three of them made the ex state of swat. Even Dir, batagram, thor ghar, swabai, mardan and malakand agency are yousafzai areas. Marwat is a district, not a province, same is the case with others. Swatis were the older inhabitants of Swat prior to the Yousafzais. They are an amalgamation of Pashtun tribes that lived prior to us Yousafzais and are mostly Dilazaks. They live in Hazara division. However there has never been a single demand for a seperate yousafzai province...because we like every other 60 tribes are Pashtun/Afghans....our homeland is Pashtunkhwa (loy afghanistan). If you are going to make a case, then at least make the case properly and don't make up information that you do not know.

i never said Swat is not Majority. But you Yusufzais are immigrants. you are not orginally from Swat. Swat was from SWATI tribe and its named after them. Yusufzai is a tribe from Kabul and parts of Kandahar. read my post again. you didnt make sense.

[kakar]

Instead of a Mahsudistan,kakaristan,kandaristan, yousufzaistan and a pakistan why dont we campaign for a Loy Pakhtunkhwa then the issue of 70 percent this and majority that will be invalid and not an issue.

Kind Regards

When Loy Afghanistan is made we will join that with open arms. but when you already have Waziristan and Marwat and Swat its not fair to say no to us.

We are much stronger in numbers than any other tribe. So dont think we are just a weak tribe. we are in millions.

[Mayana]

we are in large numbers. Wazirs have Waziristan. Marwats have Marwat I can name other tribes too. What is your problem with us getting away from Baluchistan? Do you want me be known as the Kakar from Spin boldak who lives in Baluchistan?? or who lives in KAKARISTAN.

No. I want you to be known as a Kakar from Spin Boldak who lives in AFGHANISTAN.
I don't want to be from Kandaharistan, Sistan, Zabolistan, Slaimankhelistan, Popalzistan, Battakhelistan either. I am from AFGHANISTAN. Loy Afghanistan. Kakaristan makaristan nasta.. No tribe should have their own country.