Kakaristan

[Mayana]

Dont you understand? In Baluchistan certain areas we are 70 percent we want to break BALUCHISTAN and form Kakaristan.

What is better being called Baluchistanis or Kakaristan? zaan poh ka.

lol

It's called 'Baloch' not 'Balochistanis' and there's a reason the place is called Balochistan - because Balochiaan live there. but yeah since you ask: Balochistan sounds beautiful. I'm curious to know where you got your 70% of Kakars from.


And as for your reasoning it is absolutely incoherent. So just because there supposedly are 70% of kakars in there you're gonna create a country that has never existed before? Maiwand is full of Mohammadzian, too, you don't see them striving for Mohammadzistan.




Get real.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Kakaristan movement was and is laid by ISI to overcome the growing Pashtunistan Nationalistic movement led by Mehmood Khan Asakzai.
It is very unfortunate to see that our youth has been talked into it.

[kakar]

lol

It's called 'Baloch' not 'Balochistanis' and there's a reason the place is called Balochistan - because Balochiaan live there. but yeah since you ask: Balochistan sounds beautiful. I'm curious to know where you got your 70% of Kakars from.


And as for your reasoning it is absolutely incoherent. So just because there supposedly are 70% of kakars in there you're gonna create a country that has never existed before? Maiwand is full of Mohammadzian, too, you don't see them striving for Mohammadzistan.




Get real.

Read the article first. Read the thread first.

[kakar]

Kakaristan movement was and is laid by ISI to overcome the growing Pashtunistan Nationalistic movement led by Mehmood Khan Asakzai.
It is very unfortunate to see that our youth has been talked into it.

Its not from ISI its from Kakar elders.

[kakar]

It is south pashtunkhwa period...I don't understand why you are playing into the game of ISI...but it is sad. It doesn't really matter since kakaristan is a pointless thing that ISI tries to prop up...inshallah with the end of the state, it will disappear, and it will be another part of Loy Afghanistan.

I never said I am against Loy Afghanistan. I said right now we are part of Baluchistan we should be Kakaristan.

What is your problem? Marwats have a place named after them. Buneris have a place named after them. Swati tribe has Swat named ever tribe but we cant have yours.

What is your problem?

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Its not from ISI its from Kakar elders.

Kakar Saheb did you seriously think Ashraf Robber,,,oops Ashraf kakar was a person capable of leading a prestigious tribe like Kakars into a Kakar autonomous province Kakaristan.
Why didn't they chose Yousaf Khan Kakar to be the chairman,why not Malik Baz Mohammad Khan,why not Ayaz khan jogezai?

[Mayana]

Kakaristan movement was and is laid by ISI to overcome the growing Pashtunistan Nationalistic movement led by Mehmood Khan Asakzai.
It is very unfortunate to see that our youth has been talked into it.

Asli Matlab ye dagha wu, Wror Jaana.

Read the article first. Read the thread first.

But I wish to discuss with you.
If you want Kakaristan, does that justify Mohammadzistan, Battakhelistan, Solaimankhelistan, Popalzistan, Shinwaristan, Tokhistan, Noorzistan, Azigzistan, Ahmadzistan and 500 other [insert tribe name here]-istans? What ever happened to Loy Afghanistan? What ever happened to unity? What ever happened to loyalty?

Honestly, if those people calling for this were capable of running a country, they'd run Afghanistan first instead of falling into these daydreams of formations of states for every tribe there is.

[kakar]

Khorey I am not saying each tribe should do that. Right now we are under rule of Baluchistan. We are under the province of Baluchistan. we are not happy with that. We would rather live under Kakaristan. not Baluchistan.

Look at Lakki Marwat, Buner, Swat and many others. Yusufzais are not from Swat. they are from Kabul Swati tribe is from Swat, swat was named after them.


Why are you all discriminating against us Kakars? Mayana I sorry if I sound rude earlier. bakhshana darsa ghwrama.

[Mayana]

Khorey I am not saying each tribe should do that. Right now we are under rule of Baluchistan. We are under the province of Baluchistan. we are not happy with that. We would rather live under Kakaristan. not Baluchistan.

Look at Lakki Marwat, Buner, Swat and many others. Yusufzais are not from Swat. they are from Kabul Swati tribe is from Swat, swat was named after them.


Why are you all discriminating against us Kakars? Mayana I sorry if I sound rude earlier. bakhshana darsa ghwrama.

Ta gora, chi ta nan Kakaristan ghoareh, saba Yusufzian Yusufzistan ghoari, balsaba Mohammadzian Mohammadzistan ghoari. Because they are under 'foreign rule' as well.

This utopia has absolutely no foundation in history, Kakristan never existed, where did this idea even come from? If Kakar people of Balochistan truly were seeking independence from Balochistan they would strive for a Loy Afghanistan, they'd strive to be part of the country they originally are from. What is a Kakaristan gonna do? It's not gonna be stable, it's not gonna be secure, it's not gonna have any legitimate raison d'etre.

Rather than seeking individual peace in individual autonomous provinces we should seek collective peace in a Loy Afghanistan, inshAllahw a ta'ala.

[Michin Khel]

This is just one of the ploys of ISI to split Pashtuns on misnomers....Kakars are Pashtuns and it is janubii pashtunkhwa.

I support kakaristan or separate province for Pashtuns of balochistan with other name........Pashtuns of these areas should not struggle to unite with K.P as their areas will be neglected by pashtuns of kheen dialect as are southren districts of K.P

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I never said I am against Loy Afghanistan. I said right now we are part of Baluchistan we should be Kakaristan.

What is your problem? Marwats have a place named after them. Buneris have a place named after them. Swati tribe has Swat named ever tribe but we cant have yours.

What is your problem?

Don't be foolish..Buner, Swat, and Shangla are majority Yousafzais. These are named after their respective regions and all three of them made the ex state of swat. Even Dir, batagram, thor ghar, swabai, mardan and malakand agency are yousafzai areas. Marwat is a district, not a province, same is the case with others. Swatis were the older inhabitants of Swat prior to the Yousafzais. They are an amalgamation of Pashtun tribes that lived prior to us Yousafzais and are mostly Dilazaks. They live in Hazara division. However there has never been a single demand for a seperate yousafzai province...because we like every other 60 tribes are Pashtun/Afghans....our homeland is Pashtunkhwa (loy afghanistan). If you are going to make a case, then at least make the case properly and don't make up information that you do not know.

Luffy we all support that southern pashtun areas be united with Khyber Pashtunkhwa. No one is saying otherwise. We support them 200%, but this kakaristan is a illogical and ISI backed. It is pure and simple. This is not the first time they have tried to put these useless ideas to dilute Pashtun struggles east of the durand line. Kakars are Pashtuns, and they share that land with other Pashtun tribes....so for the sake of the entire Pashtun/Afghan qawm we should opt for an autonomous Pashtun/Afghan state.

[BehavedMaseed]

Instead of a Mahsudistan,kakaristan,kandaristan, yousufzaistan and a pakistan why dont we campaign for a Loy Pakhtunkhwa then the issue of 70 percent this and majority that will be invalid and not an issue.

Kind Regards

[eusuphxai]

Luffy we all support that southern pashtun areas be united with Khyber Pashtunkhwa. No one is saying otherwise. We support them 200%, but this kakaristan is a illogical and ISI backed. It is pure and simple. This is not the first time they have tried to put these useless ideas to dilute Pashtun struggles east of the durand line. Kakars are Pashtuns, and they share that land with other Pashtun tribes....so for the sake of the entire Pashtun/Afghan qawm we should opt for an autonomous Pashtun/Afghan state.

ISI's all moves are not paid off, recently thier backing of taliban in swat back fired and they have to pay heavy price. On the face of it I say bring it on, anything that gives identity to Pakhtuns where they don't have it, they should have it.

It might as well be backed by ISI to somehow calm or slowdown the Baluch sepration movement, but as a by product Pakhtuns can benifit from it.

[BehavedMaseed]

Maseed why do Marwats,Wazirs ans others have areas named after them?

Iam sure BLS answered that a few posts ago

He said these are just districts not Provinces.

I am a Maseed and my part of Loy Pakhtunkhwa is named after Wazirs.

Waziristan was never called Waziristan before the British came and named it Waziristan. Present day Waziristan was part of Khost, Patikia,Pakitia etc.

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Maseed why do Marwats,Wazirs ans others have areas named after them?

These are a few districts not provinces....those areas are either incorporated into Pashtunkhwa or should be. People are looking at it the wrong way. This isn't as if a group within Pashtuns is denied their identity, we are a tribal group so it is of little use.