Loy Pashtunistan/Afghanistan = Loya Pashtunkhwa

[BehavedMaseed]

Be fair maseed it was one tajik panjsherae and one of our Pashtun qumandaan (Hekmatyaar). And lets not forget Ayub Khan, Zahir Shah, Babar, etc...these were all Pashtuns as well. Before we call out the sins of others we should remember our own.

I am not saying Pashtuns are so innocent.

Btw Hekmatyar gave his own daughter to a Tajik.

You see these guys all come under the same catagory but until these two nationalities are diminished we Pashtuns will always be divided.

You see roara, There are Afghans who will side with Punjabis than a Secular Pashtun, what should we do with those kind of people?

Kind Regards

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I am not saying Pashtuns are so innocent.

Btw Hekmatyar gave his own daughter to a Tajik.

You see these guys all come under the same catagory but until these two nationalities are diminished we Pashtuns will always be divided.

You see roara, There are Afghans who will side with Punjabis than a Secular Pashtun, what should we do with those kind of people?

Kind Regards

Look Maseed wrora we can't pick and choose arbitrary statements like this when it suits our purpose and then use different set of logic. Here you said Hekmatyaar gave his daughter to tajiks, ok he did. However the same taimur shah the king who switched capitals also married into pashtuns as well. However, people here only remember his marriages with tajiks. Why the buffet approach?

Those people who side with panjabis rather than secular Pashtuns do so on a basis of religion. It is a personal decision where they would rather be associated with a religious panjabi than a atheist Pashtun. You can't apply that to a nation of 60 million. Personal decisions can't be equated when are thinking in the wider scheme of things.

[khyaal]

Khyaal are you trying to defend a Criminal such as Abdullah Abdullah? the same man who insults your mashar Karzai?

Let me remind you Khyal about History, When Daud pushed for a Pashtunistan, it was these same Darizuban tajiks who worked with PAKISTANI bhutto to prevent a Pashtunistan.

The only reason why these so called Tajiks are against Pakistan is because Pakistan stopped paying them.

Go and read Hamid Zaids biography, he has even got photos when he worked with the tajiks during soviet war.

I had a friend from Kabul and he cudnt even enrol into ANA because he cudnt speak Dari.

You can expect Pashtuns to start hating on Pakistan but expect us to accept friendship with Tajiks?

Kind Regards

Look masseda! Political rivalry doesn't mean enmity you must understand this. Another thing is that the word Tajik is not an indigenous afghan word. You can't tell me who is Tajik and who is not, you can even take a Pashtun for a Tajik if he speaks Dari. Another thing is that Tajik is not an ethnicity whatsoever it is a derogatory label which in the past meant Arabized afghan. During 15th century even the whole afghan population used to be called Tajik by Mongols. You should not get trapped by this fallacious word which is propagated as a weapon to weaken Afghanistan and give birth to internal polarization in afghan society.

The same trick was used by the ISI when they popularized the anti Taliban political alliance which was actually " Salvation front for Afghanistan ( Da Afghanistan da Nijaat Milli Jabha) which was distorted by Pakistan/Punjab as Northern Alliance so that they could divide Afghanistan between North and South and later on capture the Southern part of it.

[Marwat]

Loy Pakhtunistan o Loy Afghanistan is same thing.

[آريا]

100 percent of burkis speak Pushto, most of them call themselves Maseed and they are 100 percent Pashtun.

Kind Regards

Ormurs in some villages in South Waziristan speak Ormuri as first language. The first 20 languages mentioned in the first post of the thread all originate in Pashtunkhwa and Afghanistan between Aba Sin and Amu Sin.

wrera, të kho pashte zhëba në welai she wo në likai she wo në lwastai she. bya wele demra perwo kawe che cek kima zhëba wyeyi?

[آريا]

Ok. Im fine with that. Time to become united . Notice that Tajiks wouldnt want that since we would become a huge majority. Sadly they even influenced some Pashtuns.

De "Pashtunistan" ttëkai pë lumrri zal DAWUD KHAN istemaal kërrai wo de Afghanistan aw Pashtunkhwa dwaarro lepaara.

And Tajiks (some Parsiwans, not all), Hazara, Uzbeks and other Turko-Gypsies from beyond the Amu Sin are not even ethnic Afghan...

[akbarkhan]

is any one in here familiar with the phrase "wattan forosh"?

Yes, a good example is MisbehavedMaseed's uncle who works for the ISI.

[BehavedMaseed]

Yes, a good example is MisbehavedMaseed's uncle who works for the ISI.

AkberKhan

My uncle wants to leave the Army but your Mullah Omar and Haqqani refuses to attack it.

He is not in ISI, hes a Major in Army. I didnt know you guys are so jealous of successful people since in Afghanistan you guys have produced nothing but warlords, drug kingpins and Taliban.

Loose the provoking buddy because I can bite back. I know you and your buddies are trying to make me say bad things so you can report me.

Go and sorrow over Pir Rokhan.

Kind Regards

[Michin Khel]

@Maseeda

To become officer in Pak army, you have to pass ISSB test which is very difficult as it requires lot of IQ test to pass it. Your uncle is a talented person.

I also applied for ISSB but i failed in its intitials.

What pashtuns in pakistan should do? die of hunger or begging on streets like our afghans who are unfortunately compelled to do so.

[Michin Khel]

I am surprised at the level of idiocy and ignorance, why balochs would join afghanistan?. Balochs are more independent and proud people than pashtuns. They strongly dislike to be associated with pashtuns/afghans.
Why would they want to become a "minority" of loy afghanistan.

After having free balochistan, their next target will be to struggle for getting baloch areas from afghanistan and iran.

Sea port para khyali pulao pakhawan pregdo

[آريا]

sta pa de map ke kho dera bugti hum da.

teng ba che balochiano ta.

graana, byaa nim balochistan pe keh waachawa cherta cheh pakhtaane wusegi. aw PashtunkhwaMAP, Balochistan National Party aw BLA dre waarra pe balochistan keh khpel haquq ghwaarri.

[parsiwaan]

Ok. Im fine with that. Time to become united . Notice that Tajiks wouldnt want that since we would become a huge majority. Sadly they even influenced some Pashtuns.

Answer me honestly ok, what good the pashton have done in past 250+ years of rule? shoma mardoom even can't sell the idea of loy afghanitan to your own pashtons across durrand and yet you want us to accept it? First try to build the afghanistan we have, then have wild dream. The 40% Pashton of ISI, Paki militirary will tear ur heart out and feed them to Punjabis if you speak of loy afghanitan, in return they will make loy Pakistan if you don't stop this nonesnese.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Answer me honestly ok, what good the pashton have done in past 250+ years of rule? shoma mardoom even can't sell the idea of loy afghanitan to your own pashtons across durrand and yet you want us to accept it? First try to build the afghanistan we have, then have wild dream. The 40% Pashton of ISI, Paki militirary will tear ur heart out and feed them to Punjabis if you speak of loy afghanitan, in return they will make loy Pakistan if you don't stop this nonesnese.

Parsiwaan say it with me...we will go through it slowly
1 4 percent in the army...now one more time 14 %..repeat after me.

[parsiwaan]

Ek roz Mullah Bahdar look at mullah Omar and said, Mullah Saheeb lets go and occupy USA, Mullah omar look back and said, leave it who will feed that many people. Stop day dreaming, instead safe your people from being slauthered in this useless war of Arabah vs USA..stop being proxies of others and think of your nation's interest rather then interest of your pocket.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Ek roz Mullah Bahdar look at mullah Omar and said, Mullah Saheeb lets go and occupy USA, Mullah omar look back and said, leave it who will feed that many people. Stop day dreaming, instead safe your people from being slauthered in this useless war of Arabah vs USA..stop being proxies of others and think of your nation's interest rather then interest of your pocket.

My nation is Pashtun, and I consider everyone who lives in Lar au bar watan as part of our community (sure they are not pashtuns, but equivalent members of this land). I don`t know why you all make it a zero sum game, when we can all benefit from it...so your point?

I have a story too...one day I was thinking of posting an irrelevant story, but then..oh wait..snap I just did.