Loy Pashtunistan/Afghanistan = Loya Pashtunkhwa

[parsiwaan]

Parsiwaan say it with me...we will go through it slowly
1 4 percent in the army...now one more time 14 %..repeat after me.

Wt about air force, navy and the evil ISI--something called language skill?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Wt about air force, navy and the evil ISI--something called language skill?

ISI doesn`t really disclose such numbers. Navy is very small compared to the Armed forces and air forces I am not too sure about. However the major wing in these are the ISI and Army. These are the major players not some dudes in boats near gwadar or karachi. The point of the matter is that recruiment of Pashtuns in such things as 40 % is unlikely if not a fantasy. Although there are Pashtuns who you can say are experts at pathanthob and moved up in the elite circles, they are sidelined by far by urdu speakers and Panjabis. This is the nature of the power dynamic in Pakistan (at least today).

[parsiwaan]

My nation is Pashtun, and I consider everyone who lives in Lar au bar watan as part of our community (sure they are not pashtuns, but equivalent members of this land). I don`t know why you all make it a zero sum game, when we can all benefit from it...so your point?

I have a story too...one day I was thinking of posting an irrelevant story, but then..oh wait..snap I just did.

Pashton is not a nation yet, its a collection of tribes who are in continual warfare with each other and the neighbors...it will take maybe 100s more year before pashtons become a nation...if ever.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Pashton is not a nation yet, its a collection of tribes who are in continual warfare with each other and the neighbors...it will take maybe 100s more year before pashtons become a nation...if ever.

I am talking about the political definition of a nation. Again if it takes a 100 years fine fair enough....we are patient.

[parsiwaan]

ISI doesn`t really disclose such numbers. Navy is very small compared to the Armed forces and air forces I am not too sure about. However the major wing in these are the ISI and Army. These are the major players not some dudes in boats near gwadar or karachi. The point of the matter is that recruiment of Pashtuns in such things as 40 % is unlikely if not a fantasy. Although there are Pashtuns who you can say are experts at pathanthob and moved up in the elite circles, they are sidelined by far by urdu speakers and Panjabis. This is the nature of the power dynamic in Pakistan (at least today).

Its incorrect, the Pashtun are well represented in pakistani establishment, in fact if we count Pashtun of Punjabs like Kasuri Pathans, Lodi, Burki,Nazi and rest then half of pakistani etablishment are actual pashtons.

ISI Directors

1. Major General R. Cawthome. 1948-1956
2. Brig Riaz Hussain.[5] 1959 - 1966
3. Maj Gen (then Brig) Mohammad Akbar Khan.[6] 1966 - 1971
4. Lt Gen (then Maj Gen) Ghulam Jilani Khan. 1971 - 1978
5. Lt Gen Muhammad Riaz. 1978 - 1980
6. Lt Gen Akhtar Abdur Rahman. 1980 - March 1987
7. Lt Gen Hamid Gul. March 1987 - May 1989
8. Lt Gen (retd) Shamsur Rahman Kallu. May 1989 - August 1990
9. Lt Gen Asad Durrani. August 1990 - March 1992
10. Lt Gen Javed Nasir. March 1992 - May 1993
11. Lt Gen Javed Ashraf Qazi. May 1993 - 1995
12. Lt Gen (then Maj Gen) Naseem Rana. 1995 - October 1998
13. Lt Gen Ziauddin Butt . October 1998 - October 1999
14. Lt Gen Mahmud Ahmed. October 1999 - October 2001
15. Lt Gen Ehsan ul Haq. October 2001 - October 2004
16. Lt Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. October 2004 - October 2007
17. Lt Gen Nadeem Taj. October 2007 - October 2008
18. Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha. October 2008–Present

About 6-8 pf these people are Pashtun.

[parsiwaan]

I am talking about the political definition of a nation. Again if it takes a 100 years fine fair enough....we are patient.

We are not patient to wait another 100 for pashtons to grown up, enough of killing suicide bombing, and madness...our only sin is to be hamwatan of pashtons and we are suffering.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Its incorrect, the Pashtun are well represented in pakistani establishment, in fact if we count Pashtun of Punjabs like Kasuri Pathans, Lodi, Burki,Nazi and rest then half of pakistani etablishment are actual pashtons.

ISI Directors

1. Major General R. Cawthome. 1948-1956
2. Brig Riaz Hussain.[5] 1959 - 1966
3. Maj Gen (then Brig) Mohammad Akbar Khan.[6] 1966 - 1971
4. Lt Gen (then Maj Gen) Ghulam Jilani Khan. 1971 - 1978
5. Lt Gen Muhammad Riaz. 1978 - 1980
6. Lt Gen Akhtar Abdur Rahman. 1980 - March 1987
7. Lt Gen Hamid Gul. March 1987 - May 1989
8. Lt Gen (retd) Shamsur Rahman Kallu. May 1989 - August 1990
9. Lt Gen Asad Durrani. August 1990 - March 1992
10. Lt Gen Javed Nasir. March 1992 - May 1993
11. Lt Gen Javed Ashraf Qazi. May 1993 - 1995
12. Lt Gen (then Maj Gen) Naseem Rana. 1995 - October 1998
13. Lt Gen Ziauddin Butt . October 1998 - October 1999
14. Lt Gen Mahmud Ahmed. October 1999 - October 2001
15. Lt Gen Ehsan ul Haq. October 2001 - October 2004
16. Lt Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. October 2004 - October 2007
17. Lt Gen Nadeem Taj. October 2007 - October 2008
18. Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha. October 2008–Present

About 6-8 pf these people are Pashtun.

And who are these 6-8 people. Please enlighten me.

P.S. if you are thinking of using Akhdar rahman as a pashtun lolzz then he is a muhajir with possible rohilla roots. These pathan muhajir claims are all over karachi...but that didn`t stop them from joining MQM and killing Pashtuns.

[Abdul Haq]

Loy Pashtunistan...