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  • Obituary for Abdul Raziq

    Arranging solely facts, here are some to remember of this man:

    1. His Uncle and Father fought alongside Esmat Muslim Achakzai. The former was a radical communist that even Najibullah had a hard time associating with due to his rampant alcoholism and subsequent liver disease that landed him in a Moscow hospital and his death bed.

    2. He was made tremendously wealthy off this war.

    An Afghan Police Chief Took On the Taliban and Won. Then His Luck Ran Out. - The New York Times

    With the province and a major border crossing under his control, and with businesses abroad, General Raziq grew enormously rich. He spent time in Dubai and had been heavily involved in the horse trading that is part of the coalition building ahead of Afghanistan’s presidential elections next year. Because of his influence and his wealth, he was seen as an important man to be won over.
    3. He killed many Noorzai openly and human rights organizations recorded his acts which drove Noorzai families into the arms of the Taliban:

    They were killing women and children,” said Ustaz Abdul Halim, a Noorzai and former mujahideen commander who lives in Kandahar city. “After that, everyone was with the Taliban.”
    Database

    4. He killed children in a warped version of badal. Pictures of the kids are actually embedded in this article.

    Here is a UN reported mass crime he committed against a Noorzai family

    Our Man in Kandahar - The Atlantic

    The bodies, lying close together in the gully, had been numbered by the investigators. One had had his neck blown apart; another was unrecognizable, his face a mass of charred flesh. Yet another photo was of a young boy, seemingly untouched, his smooth, skinny neck sticking out of a baggy tunic. He might have been asleep, were it not for his sightless eyes gazing skyward.

    5. He allowed for the torture of random denizens

    Also detailed here:
    Our Man in Kandahar - The Atlantic

    6. He killed random University students

    LA Times reported on the torture-death of a Kandahar University student at his hands on the charge of "Taliban sympathies"
    Another mysterious death in Kandahar, and allegations of official torture - Los Angeles Times

    A Kandahar University student who requested anonymity to shield himself from reprisals described Reyan as "a simple, poor student" who was known as a hard worker. He and Afghan expressed doubts that Reyan had time to work actively with the Taliban.
    To cover up the crime the Afghan government would insinuate the opposite as if torture and electrical shocks vs a trial was somehow justified.

    7. His men and he himself were trained by Xe (formerly Erik Prince's Black water).

    As part of a countrywide initiative, his men have been trained by two controversial private military firms, DynCorp and Xe, formerly known as Blackwater, at a U.S.-funded center in Spin Boldak, where they are also provided with weapons, vehicles, and communications equipment. Their salaries are subsequently paid through the Law and Order Trust Fund for Afghanistan, a UN-administered international fund, to which the U.S. is the largest contributor.
    Contrary to the utterly retarded theories floating out there in the government lackey circles - the US had invested way to much in this man to have planned his demise. The potential introduction of Erik Prince in the near future, into Afghanistan more than validates how dumb these people are to even try to generate that sort of conspiracy of how "a patriot was killed for peace."

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    To those that say Raziq bought calm and peace, I refer you to the Roman Historian Tacitus who stated:

    Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

    Lord Byron borrowed this and translated it as thus:

    Mark where his carnage and his conquests cease!
    He makes a solitude, and calls it — peace.


    His obituary should say:
    From the age of 17 to 39 this nakedly corrupt murderer and thug went around murdering many people indiscriminately for the highest dollar amount. Sure, he had ambition and in recent years he began to dislike murdering as much he used to in his teens - but he liked to lick white invader marauder boot straps too much to stop. Its a shame he did not apply that ambition towards education and inventing. Those chapped cigarette smoker lips of his could have been uttering words of prayer instead of orders to torture. I doubt he is now at peace.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

  • #2
    Agreed for the most part, but I honestly do not believe Trump is going to hand the war over to Erik Prince.



    Putting aside all the undignified stuff Trump is known for, one thing for certain is that he can not be controlled by the MIC.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    • #3
      Abdul Raziq was an evil man among evil men in Afghanistan. Near the level of Dostum.

      It makes me sick that he’s being eulogized by Afghans all over the internet. Hate the Taliban all you want, they made the world a better place by removing him from it.

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      • #4
        The death of his uncle and father, who took children by force for their sexual pleasure, actually was the trigger for stability of Kandahar back in the 90's. When they died, Kandahar was in peace.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          The death of his uncle and father, who took children by force for their sexual pleasure, actually was the trigger for stability of Kandahar back in the 90's. When they died, Kandahar was in peace.
          There's a famous story which I don't know is true or not.But it goes that a certain warlord kidnapped some boys(maybe girls as well) shaved off their heads , raped and then killed them.In response , the Taliban movement sprung up , killed the warlord and the rest is history.
          Is the warlord in question here , the uncle of Abdul Raziq?

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          • #6
            Hey, guys, how do i convince in a short way to my mom that Abdul Raziq is a terrible guy as you say?

            I didn't knew anything at all about him until a video about him was posted on my mom's facebook. Apparently she sees him as a good person. I didn't thought much about convincing my mom the first time after reading your comments. But second time i saw her sitting on a chair with her phone and i could see she was watching another video about him.

            And i want to show the true face of Abdul, because i thought: "It would be better that she knew which kind of guy he really is, instead of watching more videos about this guy, like he's a hero".

            So, i wanted to know if any of you could send me a link in the comments or write down how i could convice her otherwise, but in a short way. I don't want to get too much into that stuff either.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
              Hey, guys, how do i convince in a short way to my mom that Abdul Raziq is a terrible guy as you say?

              I didn't knew anything at all about him until a video about him was posted on my mom's facebook. Apparently she sees him as a good person. I didn't thought much about convincing my mom the first time after reading your comments. But second time i saw her sitting on a chair with her phone and i could see she was watching another video about him.

              And i want to show the true face of Abdul, because i thought: "It would be better that she knew which kind of guy he really is, instead of watching more videos about this guy, like he's a hero".

              So, i wanted to know if any of you could send me a link in the comments or write down how i could convice her otherwise, but in a short way. I don't want to get too much into that stuff either.

              Our Man in Kandahar - The Atlantic

              Read this article that details some of the crimes of Raziq.
              "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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              • #8
                Does anyone know what happens to Raziq's militia? I doubt any of those people truly thought highly of Raziq
                "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                • #9
                  I don't understand why Afghans online and Pakistani Pashtun nationalists are glorifying this man if he was that bad. Was it because of his fierce rhetoric against Pakistan? Did he do anything else for Afghanistan/Kandahar? Or are people just brainwashed by government media?
                  Originally posted by Kaushika

                  majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                    Hey, guys, how do i convince in a short way to my mom that Abdul Raziq is a terrible guy as you say?

                    I didn't knew anything at all about him until a video about him was posted on my mom's facebook. Apparently she sees him as a good person. I didn't thought much about convincing my mom the first time after reading your comments. But second time i saw her sitting on a chair with her phone and i could see she was watching another video about him.

                    And i want to show the true face of Abdul, because i thought: "It would be better that she knew which kind of guy he really is, instead of watching more videos about this guy, like he's a hero".

                    So, i wanted to know if any of you could send me a link in the comments or write down how i could convice her otherwise, but in a short way. I don't want to get too much into that stuff either.
                    Bro,

                    Refer to all my links above in the discussion I wrote. I gave you ample evidence some of it validated by leading investigative experts.
                    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                      I don't understand why Afghans online and Pakistani Pashtun nationalists are glorifying this man if he was that bad. Was it because of his fierce rhetoric against Pakistan? Did he do anything else for Afghanistan/Kandahar? Or are people just brainwashed by government media?
                      Because they have a stake in this. To each of these factions - when its their guy doing the killing they will find reasons to justify it. The reference to Tacitus above is to point out that the claim of him having established some semblance of "peace" really just means he terrorized and killed the people enough to cause them to tread more carefully. The very same molesters of young men that destroyed the city in the 1990s rode back in with Sherzai and this piece of trash was in his militia and got the training from Xe.

                      The old guard pseudo elite in some cases (Karzai) and these guys benefited and were able to pretty much rape the area for resources and money so they were willing to look the other way. Karzai was confronted by a reporter regarding the verified killings Razak undertook against non Taliban and he waved off the question.

                      Some of the Afghans abroad have benefited immensely from the US driven war and have won translation service contracts and enriched themselves. Many of these dog washers as they are called also have convinced themselves that their cause is righteous based on the flow of "righteous" amounts of dollars into their pockets.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
                        There's a famous story which I don't know is true or not.But it goes that a certain warlord kidnapped some boys(maybe girls as well) shaved off their heads , raped and then killed them.In response , the Taliban movement sprung up , killed the warlord and the rest is history.
                        Is the warlord in question here , the uncle of Abdul Raziq?
                        Yes, his uncle and father were hung from a tank barrel. It were 2 girls they kidnapped.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks, but the thing is just i don't want to go too deep into convincing my mom otherwise, just a little bit evidence(strong evidence though), so i didn't knew whick link i should use. I didn't want entire sites or books of evidence to make my mom not see him as a war-hero anymore. But even though Insight did send me a link himself, it doesn't matter much now, as I see it.

                          Me and my family all live in Denmark, not Quetta/kandahar, and my mom probably doesn't even give him any thought. I was just a little worried(maybe worried is not the right word), after what i read from your comments. But thanks for trying helping me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                            I don't understand why Afghans online and Pakistani Pashtun nationalists are glorifying this man if he was that bad. Was it because of his fierce rhetoric against Pakistan? Did he do anything else for Afghanistan/Kandahar? Or are people just brainwashed by government media?
                            It’s tribalism. He was a major enemy of their enemy (Taliban), so they turn him into a saint.

                            Did he do anything else? He was barely literate and not even capable of doing anything other than killing.

                            It’s funny because the people who praise him do so based on the stability he supposedly brought to Kandahar, and say that that outweighs whatever bad he committed. The only problem is that the Taliban also brought stability to the region, and did so with less corruption, less bacha bazi, and fewer massacres, but will these people lionize any Taliban leader? No, in fact they celebrate when one dies.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
                              It’s tribalism. He was a major enemy of their enemy (Taliban), so they turn him into a saint.

                              Did he do anything else? He was barely literate and not even capable of doing anything other than killing.

                              It’s funny because the people who praise him do so based on the stability he supposedly brought to Kandahar, and say that that outweighs whatever bad he committed. The only problem is that the Taliban also brought stability to the region, and did so with less corruption, less bacha bazi, and fewer massacres, but will these people lionize any Taliban leader? No, in fact they celebrate when one dies.
                              his animosity towards pakistan and their supposed proxies the taliban, actually made him a hero in people minds.

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