Obituary for Abdul Raziq

[Firdousi]

Youre committing too many fallacies; a fallacy of virtue, ad hominem and others therefore your being deceitful.



Youre right, I have no skin in the game which makes me unbiased. I preach what the evidence says, dont blame me, blame the evidence, blame the truth. If you were a Saudi monarch, you would lure me to some ruse and then assassinate me for putting obstacles in your money making schemes.

I believe you, brother.

[torkham]

Agreed for the most part, but I honestly do not believe Trump is going to hand the war over to Erik Prince.



Putting aside all the undignified stuff Trump is known for, one thing for certain is that he can not be controlled by the MIC.

It's not Trump but our own watani businessmen who are complicit, one was so pleased with Prince's venture. He was gloating in the money making opportunities available to him.

[torkham]

I don't understand why Afghans online and Pakistani Pashtun nationalists are glorifying this man if he was that bad. Was it because of his fierce rhetoric against Pakistan? Did he do anything else for Afghanistan/Kandahar? Or are people just brainwashed by government media?

Only Mahmood Achakzai may have shown sentiment in that youtube video uploaded after AR's assassination. Rest of Pak establishment detests AR for his anti-punjabiyan stance.

Rest of onlineers need to see the Atlantic article in BA's link about Shin Noorzai and the ravine incident.

[torkham]

Arranging solely facts, here are some to remember of this man:

1. His Uncle and Father fought alongside Esmat Muslim Achakzai. The former was a radical communist that even Najibullah had a hard time associating with due to his rampant alcoholism and subsequent liver disease that landed him in a Moscow hospital and his death bed.

2. He was made tremendously wealthy off this war.

An Afghan Police Chief Took On the Taliban and Won. Then His Luck Ran Out. - The New York Times



3. He killed many Noorzai openly and human rights organizations recorded his acts which drove Noorzai families into the arms of the Taliban:



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4. He killed children in a warped version of badal. Pictures of the kids are actually embedded in this article.

Here is a UN reported mass crime he committed against a Noorzai family

Our Man in Kandahar - The Atlantic


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Contrary to the utterly retarded theories floating out there in the government lackey circles - the US had invested way to much in this man to have planned his demise. The potential introduction of Erik Prince in the near future, into Afghanistan more than validates how dumb these people are to even try to generate that sort of conspiracy of how "a patriot was killed for peace."

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To those that say Raziq bought calm and peace, I refer you to the Roman Historian Tacitus who stated:

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

Lord Byron borrowed this and translated it as thus:

Mark where his carnage and his conquests cease!
He makes a solitude, and calls it — peace.

His obituary should say:
From the age of 17 to 39 this nakedly corrupt murderer and thug went around murdering many people indiscriminately for the highest dollar amount. Sure, he had ambition and in recent years he began to dislike murdering as much he used to in his teens - but he liked to lick white invader marauder boot straps too much to stop. Its a shame he did not apply that ambition towards education and inventing. Those chapped cigarette smoker lips of his could have been uttering words of prayer instead of orders to torture. I doubt he is now at peace.

I thought the Shin Noorzai party's back-fired Mazar trip was the most grotesque part of this man's litany of macabre, . . . . then the story of his elders committing heinous crimes on innocent children ....where does it stop. I hope it stopped on the 18th.

Also I thought Naeem Lalai and AR had a falling out.

[torkham]

I know many decent, God fearing Afghans wealthy enough to return who have lost hope of return, only a memory of the distant past.

[Akbar]

I know. The way he speaks about Afghanistan and the Taliban its too biased, simplistic and naive. He speaks like an American, not an Afghan. Relies too much on articles written by people with no knowledge of Afghanistan´s ground reality. Afghans have developed over decades an immunity against this kind of behaviors. The only people Afghans idealize is dead people, basically because they can not challenge our opinions. No Afghan would idealize the Afghan government nor the Taliban as Khushal does.

You do not even have to believe me. You just go to Afghanistan and speak to people and see for yourself. Very few of them seem to be happy about Taliban taking over. No Afghan moves to the provinces controlled by them. Last time I was in Herat, when you leave the city, in its outskirts, I saw thousands of Pashtun refugees who migrated from Taliban provinces running away from a failed tribal movement.

Our government is cr*p but its still better than those cavemen. He has no skin in this game thats why he speaks so arrogantly about stuff he ignores.

Khushal has a more balanced understanding of Afghanistan.
On the other hand you have a limited understanding of Afghanistan. Do you speak Pashto?

[Azmal]

“Brother” has never stepped foot in Afghanistan and doesn’t even speak his supposed first language. He is, however, an expert on what is right for afghans and how much stability the talibs brought to the country.

He is a paki, so is this Abdali. A while ago he said Afghans should accept Durrad line. I called him out. Abadli is Paki Pathan, he lives in west but desire for talib rule. It is conflict of interest, it is about daal chawal for these guys. They will use some article to justify paki interest but call the rest propaganda.
Raziq’s killing was mesterious, here are some facts:
the killer was carrying governors personal Kalakof. During meeting Afghans bodyguards were not allowed yet the killer was. Why is governor only shot in legs? Why it took a good few days for NETO to admit an American official was hurt?
Gen Miller say he was not the target and there are photo a few min before attack that shows killer was right behind Gen miller. Why was a top NETO Gen not the target? In less the a week Jabbar Qarraman and Raziq were murder and mullah Baradar is set free by Pakis.
The good news more then 4 million Afghans have voted in election this is clear slap in stinky pakis and their proxy Taliban face.

[Azmal]

I don't understand why Afghans online and Pakistani Pashtun nationalists are glorifying this man if he was that bad. Was it because of his fierce rhetoric against Pakistan? Did he do anything else for Afghanistan/Kandahar? Or are people just brainwashed by government media?

Yea in a sense his anti-Pakistan stand made him a hero but not just to Pashtun nationalist but all Afghans. He is praised by non-Pashtuns and here in Kabul you can find his photo next to Massod’s. From my own experience in east and Kabul a lot of Afghans hate Pakistan. Raziq used this sentiment to gain support. Over all he was product of his environment, it is sad our young and capible people are getting killed for sake of others.

[khushal]

He is a paki, so is this Abdali. A while ago he said Afghans should accept Durrad line. I called him out. Abadli is Paki Pathan, he lives in west but desire for talib rule. It is conflict of interest, it is about daal chawal for these guys. They will use some article to justify paki interest but call the rest propaganda.

When you cant debate and the evidence is overwhelming against your narrative. Call it a Paki. good tactic. Thats very Masood of you.

Raziq’s killing was mesterious, here are some facts:
the killer was carrying governors personal Kalakof. During meeting Afghans bodyguards were not allowed yet the killer was. Why is governor only shot in legs? Why it took a good few days for NETO to admit an American official was hurt?
Gen Miller say he was not the target and there are photo a few min before attack that shows killer was right behind Gen miller. Why was a top NETO Gen not the target? In less the a week Jabbar Qarraman and Raziq were murder and mullah Baradar is set free by Pakis.
The good news more then 4 million Afghans have voted in election this is clear slap in stinky pakis and their proxy Taliban face.

Im sorry but grabbing shyt from your arse is not a good source. Another general was hit and so were 3 other Americans.

[khushal]

Yea in a sense his anti-Pakistan stand made him a hero but not just to Pashtun nationalist but all Afghans. He is praised by non-Pashtuns and here in Kabul you can find his photo next to Massod’s. From my own experience in east and Kabul a lot of Afghans hate Pakistan. Raziq used this sentiment to gain support. Over all he was product of his environment, it is sad our young and capible people are getting killed for sake of others.

Your always calling Tajiks as flat head amu jumpers and now your proud that raziq picture is right next to the lion of flat head amu jumpers. Tajiks love him because he killed his fellow pashtuns very well, oops, I mean pakis very well, oops, I mean panjabis very well.

Raziq is no different than the pakis that call the TTP as hindu RAW agents. Its just tactic of deceit to trick people and reflect people attention from his own corruption. Raziq and the Paki Army have same narrative ; "we are not killing our own people, we are killing" pakis/panjabis" for raziq's line and "hindus/RAW agents for the pak army line.

[Insight]

Anyone realize how this news has brought a lot of people back to the forum? Azmal is back. I think Toramana will come out of his hole. Bengal_tiger should follow too. Lets see. Get the popcorn out

[BarakzaiAbdali]

He is a paki, so is this Abdali. A while ago he said Afghans should accept Durrad line. I called him out. Abadli is Paki Pathan, he lives in west but desire for talib rule. It is conflict of interest, it is about daal chawal for these guys. They will use some article to justify paki interest but call the rest propaganda.
Raziq’s killing was mesterious, here are some facts:
the killer was carrying governors personal Kalakof. During meeting Afghans bodyguards were not allowed yet the killer was. Why is governor only shot in legs? Why it took a good few days for NETO to admit an American official was hurt?
Gen Miller say he was not the target and there are photo a few min before attack that shows killer was right behind Gen miller. Why was a top NETO Gen not the target? In less the a week Jabbar Qarraman and Raziq were murder and mullah Baradar is set free by Pakis.
The good news more then 4 million Afghans have voted in election this is clear slap in stinky pakis and their proxy Taliban face.

True to form, your logic remains gay. With every passing year you get dumber and dumber. Nearly a decade ago I told you we would be where we are now and you were jumping around like a monkey in heat claiming that Afghanistan would be a liberal democracy where everyone would be bra burning and aborting and the mosques would be empty.


Let's remind readers of who you are:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/hujra-/46504-catch-persiofascist.html

aka not a Pashtun, cannot even spell the common variants of the word and confused the word for dog with spaag.

Your conspiracy theories are the most idiotic part. Do people in your camp really think the world is that dumb? There have been shot US generals before and one was shot:

Harold J. Greene - Wikipedia

Greene was killed at Camp Qargha, Afghanistan when a member of the Afghan National Army opened fire on a delegation of general officers and other dignitaries who were conducting an inspection tour. Fourteen NATO and Afghan service members were wounded in the attack. The attacker was killed at the scene when NATO service members returned fire; a subsequent investigation indicated that the Afghan soldier, a 22-year old Pashtun, was motivated by unhappiness over being denied leave to travel home during the Eid al-Fitr holiday.

Let me guess - the conspiracy involved there was that Greene was secretly a Pashtun named Ahmad who held the keys to usurping Pakistani nuclear missiles and Pakistanis figured it out?

In another 10 years you will be 50 and still saying the same stupid crap and the government in Kabul will in no way reflect a liberal atheistic democracy.

[Azmal]

When you cant debate and the evidence is overwhelming against your narrative. Call it a Paki. good tactic. Thats very Masood of you.

Did you not say Afghanistan should recognize durrand?

Im sorry but grabbing shyt from your arse is not a good source. Another general was hit and so were 3 other Americans.

Why you Pakistani cockroach so insulting? Read my post, why it took Americans 3 days to say so? What makes Miller thing he was not the target?
What is really disturbing is both you and Abduli have no emotional attachment to Afghanistan. Not to forget both are hypocrites, he sits in West with his wife and family but talks about “white man.”
Never seen you or Abduli talk about Taliban violence. Question for both of you...what is your take on Taliban violence/suicide bombing?

Ps.excuse the spelling..connected with old phone and internet is not good here in Kabul.

[khushal]

Why you Pakistani cockroach so insulting? Read my post, why it took Americans 3 days to say so? What makes Miller thing he was not the target?
What is really disturbing is both you and Abduli have no emotional attachment to Afghanistan. Not to forget both are hypocrites, he sits in West with his wife and family but talks about “white man.”
Never seen you or Abduli talk about Taliban violence. Question for both of you...what is your take on Taliban violence/suicide bombing?

Ps.excuse the spelling..connected with old phone and internet is not good here in Kabul.

Youre the one who is throwing insults and I havent actually insulted you. I basically stated that you have no source to back up your claim.

Anyways Taliban violence is a reaction, a symptom. Doctors don't blame the fever, they blame the foreign virus. This has been discussed before.

The US always hide embarrassing things. When they killed OBL, their story changed like 5 times. Pat Tillman was supposed to have been killed in the heat of battle against coward barbaric terrorists but the truth was he was killed by his own coward barbaric terrorists.
Jessica lynch was supposed to have been rescued from coward barbaric terrorists in the heat of battle, the truth she was in the hospital treated by doctors. There are hundreds of stories like this.

[Azmal]

Youre the one who is throwing insults and I havent actually insulted you. I basically stated that you have no source to back up your claim.

Anyways Taliban violence is a reaction, a symptom. Doctors don't blame the fever, they blame the foreign virus. This has been discussed before.

The US always hide embarrassing things. When they killed OBL, their story changed like 5 times. Pat Tillman was supposed to have been killed in the heat of battle against coward barbaric terrorists but the truth was he was killed by his own coward barbaric terrorists.
Jessica lynch was supposed to have been rescued from coward barbaric terrorists in the heat of battle, the truth she was in the hospital treated by doctors. There are hundreds of stories like this.

You should change your name to selective Paki..cherry picking need to fit your narrtive. Taliban violence predate foreigner...uprooting people in north, burning vineyards and using rape as weapon is well documented by amnesty international.
The problem is lake of morality of paki Pathan, the only way these people will understand is with force. If only Kabul gov was not divided and corrupt, it would be easy to send fee isi generals in charge of Taliban to Dpzaq and end Talibasim for good.
Today China is killing and banning Islam yet we don’t see any outrage by these pakis. This is not about religion it interest of Punjo and their Pathan dog.


You did not answer the question..did you not suggested Afghanistan should accept Durrand?