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    Afghan Taliban raise hopes with surprise Eid ceasefire


    Afghan Taliban raise hopes with surprise Eid ceasefire




    ReutersJune 9, 2018
























    KABUL (Reuters) - The Afghan Taliban on Saturday announced a surprise three-day ceasefire over the Muslim Eid holiday in the middle of June, their first offer of its kind, days after the government declared an unconditional ceasefire of its own.
    The militants said foreign forces would be excluded from the ceasefire and that operations against them would continue. They also said they would defend themselves against any attack.
    "Members of the Taliban should not participate in public gatherings during the Eid festivities because the enemy could target us," they said in a statement.
    The presidential palace welcomed the announcement and said it hoped it can lead to lasting peace. Omar Zakhilwal, Afghanistan's Ambassador to neighboring Pakistan, described the announcement as an "important step towards prospects for peace".
    "Hope the pleasure of shedding no Afghan blood in Eid becomes so overwhelming that rest of year is also declared as Afghan Eid," he said on Twitter.
    The Taliban attacked security outposts in the Zawul district of western Herat province on Friday night, killing 17 troops and wounding several, Jelani Farhad, spokesman for the provincial governor, said.
    It was not clear exactly when the ceasefire would begin, as Eid starts when the moon is first sighted, but Afghan calendars mark Friday June 15 as the end of Ramadan.
    Eid is the biggest festival in the Muslim calendar when families visit each other's homes, enjoy feasting and in Afghanistan tend graves of fallen loved ones. The Taliban, seeking to reimpose strict Islamic law after their 2001 ouster at the hands of U.S.-led troops, have launched attacks during Eid in the past.
    "In three days, maybe the unity of Taliban insurgents will be put to test," a European diplomat told Reuters. "If different factions don’t accept the ceasefire, then attacks will continue."
    POLITICAL PROCESS
    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani announced an unconditional ceasefire with the Taliban on Thursday, until June 20, but excluding other militant groups, such as Islamic State.
    Ghani's decision came after a meeting of Islamic clerics declared a fatwa, or ruling, against suicide bombings, one of which, claimed by Islamic State, killed 14 people at the entrance to the clerics' peace tent in Kabul.
    The clerics also recommended a ceasefire with the Taliban and Ghani endorsed the recommendation.
    Ghani in February offered recognition of the Taliban as a legitimate political group in a proposed political process that he said could lead to talks to end more than 16 years of war.
    Ghani proposed a ceasefire and a release of prisoners among options including new elections involving the militants and a constitutional review in a pact with the Taliban to end a conflict that last year alone killed or wounded more than 10,000 civilians.
    In August, U.S. President Donald Trump unveiled a more hawkish military approach to Afghanistan, including a surge in air strikes, aimed at forcing the Taliban to the negotiating table.
    Afghan security forces say the impact has been significant, but the Taliban roam huge swaths of the country and, with foreign troop levels of about 15,600, down from 140,000 in 2014, there appears little hope of outright victory.
    The Taliban's announcement comes as Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un are due to sit down to a summit in Singapore on Tuesday, something few people would have predicted just months ago when threats between the two sides were at their most bellicose.
    (Reporting by Rupam Jain and Hamid Shalizi; Writing by Nick Macfie)
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    The Taliban's announcement comes as Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un are due to sit down to a summit in Singapore on Tuesday, something few people would have predicted just months ago when threats between the two sides were at their most bellicose.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    • #3
      So what was the attack on Moqor on the first day of this ceasefire that resulted in 31 civilian and 5 policemen deaths? Cease fire, my ass.
      It is in vain to think of a wilderness distance from the heart.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sikandar. View Post
        So what was the attack on Moqor on the first day of this ceasefire that resulted in 31 civilian and 5 policemen deaths? Cease fire, my ass.
        "In three days, maybe the unity of Taliban insurgents will be put to test," a European diplomat told Reuters. "If different factions don’t accept the ceasefire, then attacks will continue."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sikandar. View Post
          So what was the attack on Moqor on the first day of this ceasefire that resulted in 31 civilian and 5 policemen deaths? Cease fire, my ass.
          The Afghan government declared a ceasefire of 7 days. Talibans declared a three day ceasefire from today. Technically they did nothing wrong.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #6
            How was it a ceasefire if the parties involved didn’t even reach an agreement on when it was to start or end?
            Suppose it was a three day ceasefire, this article is dated June 9th, Moqor was attacked on June 11th and Faizullah was killed in Kunar on June 13th. So this was more like ‘let’s kill each other a lot until eid and then stop sometime towards the end of the week until one of us creeps up on the other’ fire.

            I won’t be surprised if news of at least 150 people getting killed in a random blast doesn’t surface in the next two to three days.
            It is in vain to think of a wilderness distance from the heart.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sikandar. View Post
              How was it a ceasefire if the parties involved didn’t even reach an agreement on when it was to start or end?
              Suppose it was a three day ceasefire, this article is dated June 9th, Moqor was attacked on June 11th and Faizullah was killed in Kunar on June 13th. So this was more like ‘let’s kill each other a lot until eid and then stop sometime towards the end of the week until one of us creeps up on the other’ fire.

              I won’t be surprised if news of at least 150 people getting killed in a random blast doesn’t surface in the next two to three days.
              No offense to you brother but imo you do not know how ceasefires work. In this case it was declared unilaterally by the government. Taliban "retaliated" and declared a ceasefire on their own. Even when both sides agree and declare a ceasefire at the same time, violations happen. There are so many soldiers, commanders and other actors involved that its just impossible to control all of them. So fighting happens and people die.

              Faizullah was killed by the USA, a country that its eager to thwart any peace attempt for reasons we ignore. Nor Afghan government nor the Afghan Taliban were involved. Also keep in mind that ceasefires were between those actors. Afghan government did not incluse TTP and ISIS in the ceasefire nor did the Taliban include foreign troops.

              In general, for now both sides are honoring the pact. I have seen some beautiful pictures of Taliban and ANA soldiers praying and hugging each other. Lets hope this temporary ceasefires becomes a permanent peace agreement. We are all fed up with this bloodbath that its killing our mental health. I am tired of being angry at other human beings. Enough is enough. Just my two cents.
              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

              -Ferdowsi.

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              • #8
                70 dead in nangrahar on the second day of the so called “cease fire”.
                It is in vain to think of a wilderness distance from the heart.

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                • #9
                  FYI everyone: Sikandar. is actually DZJ under a new ID.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #10
                    TTP and IS are more active in nangarhar not to mention ISI and CIA kill militias.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      TTP and IS are more active in nangarhar not to mention ISI and CIA kill militias.
                      Most of ISIS in Nangarhar are actually former TTP members who were driven out from Pakistan after Zarb-e Azam operation. There are also some hardcore Afghan elements involved in that movement.
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                        FYI everyone: Sikandar. is actually DZJ under a new ID.
                        That explains Iskandar´s stupidity. All those 70 people were killed by IS (many of the victims were Taliban), still blames it on Taliban lol.

                        Both sides behaved quite well during the ceasefire. Peace is possible. At this point its pretty clear that most of Afghans want peace and reconciliation. After these days, I have come to the conclusion that most of Taliban want peace too. Now that the Taliban leaders have decided not to extend the ceasefire, they will face a lot of pressure from lower ranks who are fed up and tired of this endless conflict.

                        I read something really great on Twitter. A young Talib fighter went to Kabul and asked a Kabuli guy about a place called "Baharistan". He had been told that the best "shiryakh" was in there and wanted to try ice cream for the first time in his life. We sometimes dont realize how hard must be for this people living in constant alert and fear in the mountains. But now that they have visited cities and all the comfort and good life available, they will realize that there is a life beyond war. Its a good step. I am optimistic.
                        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                        -Ferdowsi.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                          That explains Iskandar´s stupidity. All those 70 people were killed by IS (many of the victims were Taliban), still blames it on Taliban lol.

                          Both sides behaved quite well during the ceasefire. Peace is possible. At this point its pretty clear that most of Afghans want peace and reconciliation. After these days, I have come to the conclusion that most of Taliban want peace too. Now that the Taliban leaders have decided not to extend the ceasefire, they will face a lot of pressure from lower ranks who are fed up and tired of this endless conflict.

                          I read something really great on Twitter. A young Talib fighter went to Kabul and asked a Kabuli guy about a place called "Baharistan". He had been told that the best "shiryakh" was in there and wanted to try ice cream for the first time in his life. We sometimes dont realize how hard must be for this people living in constant alert and fear in the mountains. But now that they have visited cities and all the comfort and good life available, they will realize that there is a life beyond war. Its a good step. I am optimistic.

                          I feel great sympathy for rank and file Taliban ....most of them are exploited as pawns and manipulated....but their leaders are social parasites. I want peace but don't want these thugs to get off scott free.

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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                          • #14
                            Hey Firdousi,

                            Do you mind unblocking me since I can't really address your thoughts? I must have said something years ago? Let it go bro.


                            While I do not believe the Ghani regime has any legitimacy, I have to give credit when it is due. The ceasefire offer puts the nation on a path towards a peace which has been so elusive. If not now, it definitely has paved the way for a process similar to the Peshawar talks which oversaw the full withdrawal and defeat of the Soviet Union/Russia.

                            I do believe that behind Ghani's offer of an unconditional ceasefire was Trump via Pompeo because Trump wants out.
                            Last edited by Insight; 06-19-2018, 01:05 PM.
                            "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Insight View Post
                              Hey Firdousi,

                              Do you mind unblocking me since I can't really address your thoughts? I must have said something years ago? Let it go bro.


                              While I do not believe the Ghani regime has any legitimacy, I have to give credit when it is due. The ceasefire offer puts the nation on a path towards a peace which has been so elusive. If not now, it definitely has paved the way for a process similar to the Peshawar talks which oversaw the full withdrawal and defeat of the Soviet Union/Russia.

                              I do believe that behind Ghani's offer of an unconditional ceasefire was Trump via Pompeo because Trump wants out.
                              I swear I do not even know how to block or unblock people lol

                              I agree with your comment btw.
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

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