Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Identity Politics in Afghanistan: Nation-State or State-Nation?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Identity Politics in Afghanistan: Nation-State or State-Nation?

    Identity Politics in Afghanistan: Nation-State or State-Nation?

    Afghanistan is home to a large number of ethnic groups, but its four principal tribes are Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras, and Uzbeks. Only Pashtun leaders seem to consider Afghanistan a “nation-state.”

    Identity politics is seemingly pushing volatile Afghanistan toward another political deadlock, and this is happening at a critical stage when the country is under threat from waves of suicide attacks, unprecedented civilian casualties, loss of armed forces, the Taliban offenses on major cities, extreme poverty, and political illegitimacy.

    This political standoff is recent, albeit historic in essence. It is about the word “Afghan” meaning the state identity versus tribal identities in ethnically heterogeneous Afghanistan, which is still confused whether it is a “nation-state” or a “state-nation.”

    Over the past decades, political scientists have developed the concept of “state-nation” in contrast to the historical Westphalian notion of “nation-state.” Needless to say, these concepts aim at indulging nationalism, particularly the essence of identity in a sovereign country. A nation-state is believed to have an undisputed national identity reflective of its egalitarian constitution, political system, and more importantly the “we feeling” of its citizens who are generally associated with “one civilization.” In this form of state, the goal “is unity in oneness.”

    On the other hand, in a “state-nation,” citizens are “attached to more than one” civilization or culture. They have multiple “complimentary identities” and yet “feel obedience to the state and identification to its institutions,” however, not to a single identity, particularly when it is imposed.

    This type of ethnically heterogeneous “state-nation” is organized around a decentralized political system that protects and respects multiculturalism, while granting all ethnic groups political and cultural autonomy to coexist and voluntarily develop the “we feeling” as citizens of one country. The goal in such a country “is unity in diversity.”

    Where Does Afghanistan Fall?

    Afghanistan is home to a large number of ethnic groups, but its four principal tribes are Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras, and Uzbeks. There has never been an independent census of population to determine the actual size of each tribe. Nonetheless, King Ahmad Shah Durrani, an ethnic Pashtun, is credited for the creation of Afghanistan as a state in 1747, albeit an ever-lasting debate remains open whether he actually gave the name or not.

    Between 1747 and 1992, Pashtun rulers had governed the territory now known as Afghanistan. The only exception was King Habibullah Kalakani’s short reign in 1929. He was a ruler of ethnic Tajik origin who was betrayed and hanged by perpetrators. Thus, throughout Afghanistan’s nearly three hundred years history, Pashtuns have monopolized state power to rule over other tribes.

    “The Pashtuns established the Afghan state in 1747, and despite the country’s ethnic heterogeneity, maintained their dominance until 1992,” Anwar-ul-Haq Ahady wrote in an academic article The Decline of the Pashtuns in Afghanistan, when he was an Associate Professor of Political Science in 1995 and on his way to become the leader of Afghan Millat (Nation) Political Party, established on the basis of ethno-nationalism to push for Pashtunization of Afghanistan.

    He went on to elaborate how Pashtuns attempted to sustain their “dominance” in a multi-ethnic country: “ . . . the resettlement of the Pashtuns in the north and the pacification of Hazarajat firmly established Pashtun dominance throughout Afghanistan.” Sadly, he calls this process of tribal supremacy and ethnic cleansing “serious efforts to build a nation-state.”

    Is Afghanistan a Nation-State?

    Only Pashtun leaders seem to consider Afghanistan a “nation-state,” given Ahady’s claim. They believe that Afghanistan is the only Pashtun country surrounded by other regional nation-states, namely Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan. Other ethnic groups residing in the “Afghan” land should respect its “Afghan character” in the same way as the Persian, Uzbek and Tajik characters of the neighboring countries are respected.

    President Ashraf Ghani’s recent move to nationalize the word “Afghan” in new domestic electronic citizen ID cards has further complicated ethnic groups’ relations with the “Afghan” state. The document identifies its holders as Afghans, the term used as a synonym for members of the Pashtun tribe at home.

    His move intends to force Afghanistan toward a paradoxical “nation-state,” the foundation of which was laid in 2004 when an absolute presidential system was mysteriously envisioned in the Constitution of Afghanistan.

    “The new Constitution was finally adopted on January 4, 2004. Rather than holding a vote, delegates were simply asked to stand for one minute to denote their accession to the document. Without a formal count or recording of dissenting votes, opposition was muted.” These are the words of an international constitutional expert Alexander Thier, who seems to have been involved in the process of making the current Constitution of Afghanistan. He referred to the Grand Council of 2004 and the “muted” opposition, who were non-Pashtun ethnic representatives.

    All Ethnic Groups’ State-Nation

    Given that Afghanistan is home to multi-ethnic groups none of which constitutes an absolute majority, it is undeniably an ethnically heterogeneous country that perfectly qualifies as a “state-nation.” In fact, President Ghani’s complete name prior to his grip on power sounded like Mohammad Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai.

    Ahmadzai, like Karzai, belongs to a clan of the Pashtun tribe. Surprisingly, he dropped his last name through a presidential decree to appease all ethnic groups in Afghanistan and present himself as everyone’s leader, not a Pashtun tribal leader, although his conduct portrays him as the latter. His Pashtun supporters also call him “baba,” a term that means “father” of all Pashtun tribe in the Pashtu language.

    If his act genuinely validates anything, it is Afghanistan’s status as a state-nation that does not need the first or last name indicating a single tribe. Its national identity must compliment all ethnic groups’ identities so that a real sense of “we feeling” is created.

    In reaction to Ghani’s move, northern non-Pashtun populations have held demonstrations to not only defy Ghani’s distribution of “Afghan” e-IDs but also to call for the change of the country’s name from Afghanistan to Khurasan. This does not sound like “we feeling” in the making.

    Deep down, Western-educated Pashtun leaders know that Afghanistan is a state-nation, not a nation-state. If they were convinced that Pashtuns were the majority, they would not have engaged in a conspiracy to conduct a census of the population from “space”.

    Ethnic diversity of Afghanistan is so great that previous despotic rulers had failed to establish a Pashtun nation-state. The paradoxical aspiration to achieve the “Greater Pashtunistan” that would bring together Pashtuns of Pakistan and Afghanistan seems to have taken reason away from them. Ghani’s open support to “PashtunLongMarch” in Pakistan steams from this absurd ambition.

    Overthrowing of the de facto Taliban regime in 2001 with the support of the international community handed Afghanistan a historic chance to embrace true democracy as a “state-nation.” It could have begun a new chapter for all ethnic groups of Afghanistan allowing them to coexist harmoniously as citizens without any state favoritism or discrimination. This could have become reality with a decentralized political system, like any other state-nations have, on the basis of a legitimate egalitarian Constitution.

    Some demagogic leaders, intentionally or unintentionally, did not take this chance to move forward. Instead, they chose a path that is taking Afghanistan backward to its dark tribal past. For the sake of our “unity in diversity,” we have to abandon ethnonationalism if we are to get another chance to move forward together as a real state-nation rather than undermining one another in a false nation-state destined to collapse.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

  • #2
    Ethno-states are a failure. Afghanistan will collapse sooner or later. So will most of Islamic ethno-states. These Western imposed nation-states are racist, repressive and intolerant by nature. They have no legitimacy. Muslims should embrace their pre-colonial heritage. Strong societies and not so strong governments. Thats why so many non Pashtuns happily joined Ahmad Shah Durrani, because they considered him a honorable person not because its ethnicity.

    Western political and social narratives are alien to us and will always lead to dysfunctional states/nations/societies/individuals. We need to develop a modern narrative asap.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

    Comment


    • #3
      Wait, there are non-pahstuns embracing Ahmed Shah Baba? But i thought they hated him.
      Hell, i even saw a video edited by a hazara, mocking him.

      There really are non-pahstuns embracing him?

      Comment


      • #4
        And there are Pashtuns that reject him and all other monarchies, like me

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
          Ethno-states are a failure. Afghanistan will collapse sooner or later. So will most of Islamic ethno-states. These Western imposed nation-states are racist, repressive and intolerant by nature. They have no legitimacy. Muslims should embrace their pre-colonial heritage. Strong societies and not so strong governments. Thats why so many non Pashtuns happily joined Ahmad Shah Durrani, because they considered him a honorable person not because its ethnicity.

          Western political and social narratives are alien to us and will always lead to dysfunctional states/nations/societies/individuals. We need to develop a modern narrative asap.
          Is Afghanistan even an an ethno-state?

          I suppose most European countries are ethno-states. States based on an ethnic group. Ei. Sweden, Norway, Italy, etc.

          Islamic countries fail too. Religion is not enough to unite, otherwise the original Caliphates would not have collapsed so fast.

          Comment


          • #6
            What clear Anti-Pashtun propaganda. Khorasan? Why on earth should Afghanistan be changed to Khorasan? A lot of the Pashtun regions weren’t even part of Khorasan. And during the days of Khorasan Pashtuns we’re much weaker than Farsiwan.
            There’s a reason why the name is Afghanistan: because the tide has turned we’re in power now. Ariana I could understand but Khorasan? Are you kidding me. What’s even more surprising is how no one on this forum has challenged you so far. Also I like how the person who wrote the article seems to feel so bad for the poor Tajik who was “betrayed by his own people” but fails to mention that king was a bandit who himself betrayed and overthrew the previous Pashtun king. The author has done a really bad job of covering up their identity.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              Ethno-states are a failure. Afghanistan will collapse sooner or later. So will most of Islamic ethno-states. These Western imposed nation-states are racist, repressive and intolerant by nature. They have no legitimacy. Muslims should embrace their pre-colonial heritage. Strong societies and not so strong governments. Thats why so many non Pashtuns happily joined Ahmad Shah Durrani, because they considered him a honorable person not because its ethnicity.

              Western political and social narratives are alien to us and will always lead to dysfunctional states/nations/societies/individuals. We need to develop a modern narrative asap.
              In your dreams .
              Even if the whole of Iran stands behind you you won't be able to. You and your Persian fascists are the weakest link in Afghanistan and will face justice once there is a proper stable government.

              Also you once again showed your true face behind the fake reverted back to Islam face.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                Wait, there are non-pahstuns embracing Ahmed Shah Baba? But i thought they hated him.
                Hell, i even saw a video edited by a hazara, mocking him.

                There really are non-pahstuns embracing him?
                This firdousi like I previously exposed him is an ethnofascist Iranian wanna be. Not only people in Afghanistan stood behind Ahmad Shah baba but the tajokistan and other I stand were seeking protection from Ahmad Shah Abdali and their allegiance were to Ahmad Shah Baba.

                Nowadays it's only the ismaili Shia gang of latif bepadar who's platform is on Facebook. Thanks to weak government and leaders these traitors to Afghanistan are walking around free.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                  And there are Pashtuns that reject him and all other monarchies, like me
                  I've never heard a Pashtun rejecting him.
                  Again you are making things up brother.
                  Some other monarchies maybe, such as zahir Shah,Shah shuja, and many other rulers such as Karzai and ghani.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dawar Faudzi View Post
                    What clear Anti-Pashtun propaganda. Khorasan? Why on earth should Afghanistan be changed to Khorasan? A lot of the Pashtun regions weren’t even part of Khorasan. And during the days of Khorasan Pashtuns we’re much weaker than Farsiwan.
                    There’s a reason why the name is Afghanistan: because the tide has turned we’re in power now. Ariana I could understand but Khorasan? Are you kidding me. What’s even more surprising is how no one on this forum has challenged you so far. Also I like how the person who wrote the article seems to feel so bad for the poor Tajik who was “betrayed by his own people” but fails to mention that king was a bandit who himself betrayed and overthrew the previous Pashtun king. The author has done a really bad job of covering up their identity.
                    This idiot and other Tajoke nationalistasts are idiots.
                    At the time of khorasan it was ruled by the Islamic khilafa and the language was Arabic. Pashtuns were the lords of khorasan.
                    The khorasan these guys want is a secular alcoholic nation like tajokistan.

                    Btw firdawoosi is not a Muslim he said it himself.
                    Than he switched to pretending being Muslim so that what he says gets more legitimacy.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      These countries were all invented by the British. Thats why most Pashtuns are in Pakistan. One third in Afghanistan. Both were British colonies. Although Pakistan and us Indians have made somewhat functional countries though despite the ethnic diversity and are economically in the rise.

                      From an Indian pov, I Think Pashtuns of Afghanistan should join Pakistan. Pakistan Is a country in the rise. The Pakistani Pashtuns have a higher living standards than anyone in Afghanistan.

                      Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens are Central Asians through and through. None of those groups are tribal societies. Pashtuns have more in common with Punjabis in Pakistan who are also organized as a tribal society. I dont know what Pashtuns are doing with those groups honestly. You guys should just merge with Pakistan. Win win for everyone.
                      Last edited by UnknownUser; 05-27-2018, 08:00 PM.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
                        These countries were all invented by the British. Thats why most Pashtuns are in Pakistan. One third in Afghanistan. Both were British colonies. Although Pakistan and us Indians have made somewhat functional countries though despite the ethnic diversity and are economically in the rise.

                        From an Indian pov, I Think Pashtuns of Afghanistan should join Pakistan. Pakistan Is a country in the rise. The Pakistani Pashtuns have a higher living standards than anyone in Afghanistan.

                        Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens are Central Asians through and through. None of those groups are tribal societies. Pashtuns have more in common with Punjabis in Pakistan who are also organized as a tribal society. I dont know what Pashtuns are doing with those groups honestly. You guys should just merge with Pakistan. Win win for everyone.
                        Dude, why are you even here. You’re an ugly Indian Hindu. You have nothing in common with us and you know nothing about our culture, language or History. No one wants you here. Afghanistan was never a colony, modern Afghanistan is the most stable regions of the Afghan empire minus the Pakistani Pashtun lands.

                        Pashtuns do not have more in common with ugly Punjabis (you wish lol) than with Tajiks. I’m sick of Indians trying to claim us: we don’t look like you, our language is nothing like yours, our culture is nothing like yours. Also Punjabis don’t have tribes you guys have castes. Just learn to be happy with your people, sure you might be ugly as hell and possibly the worst at sports out of all human peoples but you guys are reasonably smart and hard working you should be proud of that.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                          And there are Pashtuns that reject him and all other monarchies, like me
                          Monarchy has been the main political system since the inception of civilization, brother. We need to study ASA in his own political context. In general, the guy was quite popular not only among his own Pashtuns, but also among Persians, Tajiks, Turkemans and Uzbeks. Most of his campaigns agains India were quite popular among non Pashtun Muslims. So I believe what people liked about him back then was his religious piety.
                          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                          -Ferdowsi.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Akbar View Post
                            In your dreams .
                            Even if the whole of Iran stands behind you you won't be able to. You and your Persian fascists are the weakest link in Afghanistan and will face justice once there is a proper stable government.

                            Also you once again showed your true face behind the fake reverted back to Islam face.
                            You need a minimum IQ of 90 in order to partake in this thread, buddy lol
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
                              Is Afghanistan even an an ethno-state?

                              I suppose most European countries are ethno-states. States based on an ethnic group. Ei. Sweden, Norway, Italy, etc.

                              Islamic countries fail too. Religion is not enough to unite, otherwise the original Caliphates would not have collapsed so fast.
                              Afghanistan, as the name itself proves, its an ethno-state. But since its also a failed state, it will never really become functional. Its ethnonationalist nature fuels its failed nature. Its an endless process. This also happens to a lesser degree in Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, etc.

                              Religion (values) are strong enough to unite. Most of the "original caliphates" stood for centuries, more than any secular democracy. Also religion is an universal force unlike nationalism which is extremely divisive and based on bigotry.

                              At the end of the day we need to realize that all political systems are doomed to fail and collapse eventually. Its the natural order. Human beings, societies, nations and civs, are born, rise, fall and eventually die. No matter what, human beings jsut can not admit that they will eventually perish and become dust into history.
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X