The Prospects of Pakhtun Nationalism in Afghanistan's Politics

[BLS_1919v2.0]

The whole time we have been discussing you have NOT given your approach of how to save the Pashtun. You have been crying foul: It is our land, it is our land.

So, what is your answer.

I am not turning anything against you.

I didn't give an approach since it wasn't the topic at hand. If it was, we would be discussing it. I have already discussed these things, there are multiple ways, building media, educating masses, asking the political parties to start working together on core issues, etc. It has been discussed at length here.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

How would you liberate pakistan? It is impossible in the presence of such a huge army which has become a fatal instrument a mercenaries in the hands of infidels. Pakistan has intrinsic flaws which can't be removed, it is in the very structure and history of this country.

Now we are talking! Bingo!

Therefore, it will be a fail at every front. The only thing left is for us to preserve our lives and to follow the Islamic teachings and wait for a good day.But in the meantime we should advance our literacy and bring other forms of proper societal evolution within the Pashtun.

[Azmal]

No, wrora, I am saying that our lives are being pounded by nature, we should focus on what matters: our purpose here on earth.

If you want to look at from religion prospective then self determination MUST be our highest priority. In Islam we're all the same in terms of ethnicity, and homeland we're different. In Islam the caliphate is not a single nation, but much like the European union, a organized cooperative of nations each with their own sovereign state and identity in Allegiance towards the cause of Islam. There is no central absolute authority of a Khalifa , the Khalifa acted primarily as a administrator and balance of order. Thus the concept of Pakistan is contrary to this Islamic principal.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I didn't give an approach since it wasn't the topic at hand. If it was, we would be discussing it. I have already discussed these things, there are multiple ways, building media, educating masses, asking the political parties to start working together on core issues, etc. It has been discussed at length here.

I totally agree. But in the meantime you still have to be law abiding citizens.

You have not said anything here that I have been speaking against. The only thing is that I don't believe that the objective should be a Pashtun State. It should be the betterment of the Pashtun Society. When time comes and if it is ripe then maybe, but not now.

[khyaal]

As for as Pakistan exists, this all will be a fake reformation. Do you think they will allow you to reform yourself and later on confront them? impossible. The only strategy is to eliminate this state altogether.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I totally agree. But in the meantime you still have to be law abiding citizens.

You have not said anything here that I have been speaking against.

Law abiding citizen to what? To an army that harasses my people in Malakand division and FATA? Where they are buying our land below market rate? They bombed my areas, killed elders, and then the treatment in the camps were much worse. They are breaking the laws of their own constitution. I can't be expected to buy into that. You are indirectly condemning Pashtuns.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Law abiding citizen to what? To an army that harasses my people in Malakand division and FATA? Where they are buying our land below market rate? They bombed my areas, killed elders, and then the treatment in the camps were much worse. They are breaking the laws of their own constitution. I can't be expected to buy into that. You are indirectly condemning Pashtuns.

On what basis do they do it? For fun? Also, it is a known fact that they don't just bother the Pashtun. They go around.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

On what basis do they do it? For fun? Also, it is a known fact that they don't just bother the Pashtun. They go around.

This is your justification? They have their interests, it runs contrary to ours. It is still unconstitutional either way you slice it.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

This is your justification? They have their interests, it runs contrary to ours. It is still unconstitutional either way you slice it.

So, what are the legal alternatives to our plight?

[khyaal]

On what basis do they do it? For fun? Also, it is a known fact that they don't just bother the Pashtun. They go around.

They must abandon their strategic depth dream of occupying Afghanistan and establish a true federation as pormised in the Lahore Resolution.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

They must abandon their strategic depth dream of occupying Afghanistan and establish a true federation as pormised in the Lahore Resolution.

What are the legal ways of getting this done?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

So, what are the legal alternatives to our plight?

To oppose it, to ask for autonomy, a unified Pashtun/Afghan province, army has to leave and so do their ******* offspring and no more strategic depth in Afghanistan.

[khyaal]

What are the legal ways of getting this done?

I told you the legal way, i.e., to abide by lahore resoultion.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Both of you, But that can only happen if we hegemony? Right?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Both of you, But that can only happen if we hegemony? Right?

Hegemony? elaborate.