Promotion of the word 'Pathan' in official sources

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Why do you Pashtuns obsess over such obscure things anyways? When will you rise intellectually like your Persian/Tajik brethren? So many threads on this forum are so laughable, but its more sad than funny.

Nekrofost started a thread about "execution by golden shower"

Maneatinglizard started a thread about difference between "v" and "w" in Pashtu dialects.

And now this one is discussing the word "Pathan" vs "Pashtun"

I hate to push stereotypes, but don't you ever try to prove the stereotype of Pathans as stupid, non-intellectual people with nothing to contribute of substance wrong?

Talk about stereotypes ....you're a Dothead and you represent all the stereotypes we have of Indics being Religion Peddlers ....all Show but no substance.

[kunatawar]

Be honest, which area is more developed? East or West of Durand Line? The Indian subcontinent has many institutions and is far more developed because of British colonial presence, unlike Afghanistan.

The blunder is on your Afghan kings. They should never have resisted the British. It is now proven that wherever the British ruled is much better than wherever there was stronger Russian influence and Soviet rule.

And Indian Muslims, no matter how discriminated and bad they are treated, still have a far superior standard of living than the average Afghan

lol at the bolded part, i honestly hate stereotypes but you arent making things easier for your people. Change and improvement should come from within your own community not from being colonized and enslaved by a more advanced society, i cant believe i even have to say this.

and about indian muslims you're right some of them do have better living conditions but the region where the typical desi muslim culture of pakistan/north india originates from (UP and Bihar with a combined population of over 300 million) has a lower HDI than even war torn afghanistan...keep in mind that muslims living conditions there are even lower than the average of those states. On top of that rural pashtuns living condition are almost the same either side of the border, only some cities like peshawar and mardan have better living condition compared to afghanistan.

[Sarbani]

Be honest, which area is more developed? East or West of Durand Line? The Indian subcontinent has many institutions and is far more developed because of British colonial presence, unlike Afghanistan.

The blunder is on your Afghan kings. They should never have resisted the British. It is now proven that wherever the British ruled is much better than wherever there was stronger Russian influence and Soviet rule.

And Indian Muslims, no matter how discriminated and bad they are treated, still have a far superior standard of living than the average Afghan

What the heck is your issue? Why do you have to go on every single thread and hijack the discussion and steer it into a discussion of Pashtun separatism instead? This thread is not about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. There are plenty of threads dedicated to Pashtun separatism on this forum. You are such a pathetic complexed person. Typical Indian. Go troll somewhere else instead of hijacking my thread.

[Sarbani]

I'm not discussing Pashtunistan here. Learn to read or go back to ESL.

Yes you are. You were telling him how separatism is dumb and trying to promote Paki nationalism in this thread when nobody mentioned joining Afghanistan or separating from Pakistan once. When he was talking about how you Indians are promoting division, he was talking about ethnic division between PK Pashtuns and AF Pashtuns.

[Sarbani]

I never discussed separatism or joining Afghanistan in a political sense. Read my comments again, they are talking about the benefits of British colonization of the NWFP and asking you Pathans this side of the Durand Line to imagine what your situation would be if history had taken a different course.

And what the hell was the point of spouting that piece of Paki nationalism in this thread? It's completely off topic. You seem very desperate to push an agenda.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

What the heck is your issue? Why do you have to go on every single thread and hijack the discussion and steer it into a discussion of Pashtun separatism instead? This thread is not about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. There are plenty of threads dedicated to Pashtun separatism on this forum. You are such a pathetic complexed person. Typical Indian. Go troll somewhere else instead of hijacking my thread.

He's a self hating Indic who uses religion to masquerade his inferiority issues. Because his kind are rootless and without any merit under their name other than being low caste Hindus and conquered by every foreign invader. Out of his bitterness and envy he wants everyone else to be in the same condition he's in.

[Sarbani]

on a side note many online punjabis (usually pakistani) and sometimes karachiwalas get triggered at the mention pashtuns language/culture/politics. it might be because it makes them feel like average joes and also since our identity is tied to afghanistan/central asia and not completely indian/pak focused so their inner nationalist goes into overdrive mode.

Ironic we witnessed this in this very thread haha.

[Charsi Malang]

Ironic we witnessed this in this very thread haha.

I had that fool figured out right from the start. I knew it would end up this way. I have known too many Punjabis and Urduwals and I can easily predict where and how they steer the conversation. Punjabi and Urduwal combination is the worst- you cannot get more Desi or anti Pashtun than that.

[salman47]

Say what you want about the British, but they ended up improving your situation. Imagine if you guys were part of Afghanistan. Majority of the Pakhtuns in Pakistan don't want to be part of Afghanistan. The flow of refugees is from west to east for a reason.

Clearly you don't know our history...

[salman47]

Be honest, which area is more developed? East or West of Durand Line? The Indian subcontinent has many institutions and is far more developed because of British colonial presence, unlike Afghanistan.

The blunder is on your Afghan kings. They should never have resisted the British. It is now proven that wherever the British ruled is much better than wherever there was stronger Russian influence and Soviet rule.

And Indian Muslims, no matter how discriminated and bad they are treated, still have a far superior standard of living than the average Afghan

Hey you dense dump, just keep the following in your head forever: We are not like you, and never will be!
We DON'T let unknown foreign men mate in our bed(with our women) in front of us. That's your genetic trait, don't drag us into your cheap group.
We don't like foreign rule(and never have). Since Punjab has a very high population in Pakistan and Pakistan has a democratic voting system, we will ALWAYS have a Problem with Pakistan and it's establishment. This is our trait/genetics and you can't change it.
Slowly we are trying to teach Reading/writing Pashto to our sweet people, which is of course burning the management/foundation of Pakistan.

I am from Pakistan and I have lived on and off for almost 10 years in Afghanistan.
What the Soviet's did in Afghanistan(Infrastructure wise), is far superior than what the Britons did in South Asia. There has been war(s) for many years, and the infrastructure still stands strong in spite of it.
Afghanistan(before the Soviet/Taliban Bull****ery) had been actually 'Independent' in Reality(literally), unlike Pakistan(relies on almost everything foreign even before independence).
Most Importantly, the living conditions in Kabul are actually very very good!(better than Islamabad). Also Afghanistan has Electricity 24/7.

Before you open your mouth to utter something 'indian' again: Yes we would like to go back to Afghanistan with KP and Balochistan. You Hear Me?

P.S. We own KP and Balochistan, your People(or Pakistan for that matter) do not own us or our Land. I hereby proudly say that WE TOOK THIS LAND FROM YOU FORCEFULLY AND NOW WE OWN IT!
(I know everything belongs to God, so don't say it.)

[Sarbani]

And these DNA results definitely seem strange to me if they were actually taken from the Pashtunistan heartland. I'm from right over the border, on the Afghan side of Spin Ghar; I wonder how close I'd match with these samples.

The 'Pathan' samples were taken from FATA. Among them included around 3 individuals which were huge outliers (way more South Asian blood) so they shifted the overall Pashtun sample south. I had a DNA test done (will post the results maybe in another thread) and the Pathan sample was more South Asian shifted than me in every single database/calculator. If those 3 outliers were excluded, then their results would be almost identical to mine.

What was his username? Is getting rejected by Pashtuns some kind of rite of passage for these guys? I don't know why they feel the need to come here lol.

Found it: http://www.pashtunforums.com/members/19416.html

[Akbar]

Who cares
Out of all the issues surrounding us you prioritise this one?

[Sarbani]

Who cares
Out of all the issues surrounding us you prioritise this one?

I didn't prioritize it. I just mentioned it. Am I not allowed to discuss this on a Pashtun forum? Ignore this if you're not interested.