Kurdish disaster

[Firdousi]

After selling themselves, their honor, their identity, their faith, everything, for the sake of their "country", Kurds have been defeated. Easily. For the sake of Kurdistan, Kurds carried out an extremely smart propaganda in order to fool the naive Western public: they portrayed themselves as pro LGTB, as pro-feminism (showing ladies "fighting" in fake videos although we all know most of those doing the fighting were men), pro-secularism,.. many Kurds even left Islam and turned to Zoroastrism. Kurds also portrayed themselves as "anti-ISIS" which, once again, it doesn't make any sense (YPG Kurds fought bravely against ISIS, but once again, they were not the only one fighting ISIS in Syria: rebels and Bashar fought them too). Iraqi Kurds ran like cowards leaving Yazidis alone, who were systematically butchered by ISIS. Once USA organized an anti-ISIS strategy, Iraqi Kurds did absolutely nothing but grab cowardly Kirkuk and then sit idly and watch the Iraqi army and fascist Shia jihadis do the dirty job along with Western support. They even flirted with Israel!

They did all this and yet they don't have a Kurdistan. The West, betrayed them just like they did a century ago (Sevres and Laussana treaties). And also Kurds just like the Iraqi army have proved to be useless AF without American air support. They bit the dust due to their own arrogance.

Although I hate both Shia nazis and Sunni Jihadis alike, I must say I despise the Kurdish cause more than all of them combined. They made trouble with everyone, thats why now nobody is going to help them now. They really thought that by becoming West´s new pet they would achieve their goals. Still can't understand why they held this stupid referendum when they weren't even willing to fight.

Kurdistan is dead and I don't know why but I am glad it happened lol

[salman47]

That Khar barzani is only good for public speeches in Kurdish. All of them ran like cowards, although they should have defended Kirkük because it will help their Cuntry economically. But anyway they are losers.
My expectation was that Israel will butcher them in future but they got out of picture too fast.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Exactly as I had predicted. A lot sooner than I thought, as well.

[kanishka]

After selling themselves, their honor, their identity, their faith, everything, for the sake of their "country", Kurds have been defeated. Easily. For the sake of Kurdistan, Kurds carried out an extremely smart propaganda in order to fool the naive Western public: they portrayed themselves as pro LGTB, as pro-feminism (showing ladies "fighting" in fake videos although we all know most of those doing the fighting were men), pro-secularism,.. many Kurds even left Islam and turned to Zoroastrism. Kurds also portrayed themselves as "anti-ISIS" which, once again, it doesn't make any sense (YPG Kurds fought bravely against ISIS, but once again, they were not the only one fighting ISIS in Syria: rebels and Bashar fought them too). Iraqi Kurds ran like cowards leaving Yazidis alone, who were systematically butchered by ISIS. Once USA organized an anti-ISIS strategy, Iraqi Kurds did absolutely nothing but grab cowardly Kirkuk and then sit idly and watch the Iraqi army and fascist Shia jihadis do the dirty job along with Western support. They even flirted with Israel!

They did all this and yet they don't have a Kurdistan. The West, betrayed them just like they did a century ago (Sevres and Laussana treaties). And also Kurds just like the Iraqi army have proved to be useless AF without American air support. They bit the dust due to their own arrogance.

Although I hate both Shia nazis and Sunni Jihadis alike, I must say I despise the Kurdish cause more than all of them combined. They made trouble with everyone, thats why now nobody is going to help them now. They really thought that by becoming West´s new pet they would achieve their goals. Still can't understand why they held this stupid referendum when they weren't even willing to fight.

Kurdistan is dead and I don't know why but I am glad it happened lol

it's quite funny why kurds are so in favour for kurdistan and end up causing a mess...


think about us Pashtoons and our Pashtunistan.... our situation is much worse because many pashtuns in pakistan have no interest in pashtunistan. They hae have turned into zombie gul khans....

and yes, the secularism flag nationalist pashtuns held like communism and anp's ideals. Quite the contrast with the staunch islam of gul khans.

[Firdousi]

it's quite funny why kurds are so in favour for kurdistan and end up causing a mess...


think about us Pashtoons and our Pashtunistan.... our situation is much worse because many pashtuns in pakistan have no interest in pashtunistan. They hae have turned into zombie gul khans....

and yes, the secularism flag nationalist pashtuns held like communism and anp's ideals. Quite the contrast with the staunch islam of gul khans.

I am not Pashtun brother nor I care about Pashtunistan. This nationalist wet dream of yours has destroyed our lives, our country, our peace of mind, our honor, our relationship with our neighbors.

The sooner all these nationalists dreams die, the better for all of us.

[Firdousi]

Poor Kurds are all over the internet moaning and b itching. Its so embarrassing lol

Twitter

The thing is how Kurds are really feeling betrayed by Murica. They seriously expected USA to help them even when Murica opposed the referendum held in Iraqi Kurdistan. They are also claiming that the Iraqi government is using American weapons.. well they are using them too!!! LOL

[kanishka]

I am not Pashtun brother nor I care about Pashtunistan. This nationalist wet dream of yours has destroyed our lives, our country, our peace of mind, our honor, our relationship with our neighbors.

The sooner all these nationalists dreams die, the better for all of us.

not Pashtoon?
what are you then?

[maneatinglizard]

I am not Pashtun brother nor I care about Pashtunistan. This nationalist wet dream of yours has destroyed our lives, our country, our peace of mind, our honor, our relationship with our neighbors.

The sooner all these nationalists dreams die, the better for all of us.

The person you're responding to isn't Pashtun either.

Just another Indic pretending to be one for whatever reason.

[Azmal]

These set back can only delay the creation of Kurdistan. The fact is fertility rate of Kurd are much higher then Turks, Persian and rest...in few generation Kurds will be majority in Turkey.
I honestly can't wait for the day when Irkon(Iran) breaks into Kurdistan, Awasitan, Baluchistan and Azarbijan.

[kanishka]

These set back can only delay the creation of Kurdistan. The fact is fertility rate of Kurd are much higher then Turks, Persian and rest...in few generation Kurds will be majority in Turkey.
I honestly can't wait for the day when Irkon(Iran) breaks into Kurdistan, Awasitan, Baluchistan and Azarbijan.

eh?


why not we talk about the fertility rate of Pashtuns in comparison with Punjabis

for the same logic, would Pakhtuns be the majority of Pakistan or is the fertility of Punjabistan just as much?

[salman47]

These set back can only delay the creation of Kurdistan. The fact is fertility rate of Kurd are much higher then Turks, Persian and rest...in few generation Kurds will be majority in Turkey.
I honestly can't wait for the day when Irkon(Iran) breaks into Kurdistan, Awasitan, Baluchistan and Azarbijan.

The high fertility rate does not matter, because most of them in Turkey do not identify as Kurds at all!
In Fact the Turkish Kurds have become like the 'Pathans'. Can't even say hello in Kurdish, but somehow they are Kurdish.
They have become the same subjects as our Northern Iranic cousins, who became Turks.

[Firdousi]

The high fertility rate does not matter, because most of them in Turkey do not identify as Kurds at all!
In Fact the Turkish Kurds have become like the 'Pathans'. Can't even say hello in Kurdish, but somehow they are Kurdish.
They have become the same subjects as our Northern Iranic cousins, who became Turks.

Actually plenty of conservative religious Kurds identify with Erdogan and his conservative ways than with the atheist PKK/YPG.

I have met many Kurdish Muslims in Germany who don't give a s hit about Kurdistan.

[salman47]

These set back can only delay the creation of Kurdistan. The fact is fertility rate of Kurd are much higher then Turks, Persian and rest...in few generation Kurds will be majority in Turkey.
I honestly can't wait for the day when Irkon(Iran) breaks into Kurdistan, Awasitan, Baluchistan and Azarbijan.

Actually plenty of conservative religious Kurds identify with Erdogan and his conservative ways than with the atheist PKK/YPG.

I have met many Kurdish Muslims in Germany who don't give a s hit about Kurdistan.

I have Kurdish friend who hate Erdoghan, and voted against him in the referendum, but still he prefers Turkey over Kurdistan anytime.
Another Kurdish friend, who came to Ankara to receive education was bullied 'Turks' because he couldn't speak Turkish properly, and mocked very badly because he is a Kurd. This guy prefers Kurdistan.
Both of them are Muslims

[kanishka]

The high fertility rate does not matter, because most of them in Turkey do not identify as Kurds at all!
In Fact the Turkish Kurds have become like the 'Pathans'. Can't even say hello in Kurdish, but somehow they are Kurdish.
They have become the same subjects as our Northern Iranic cousins, who became Turks.

because of Islam. Erdogan is pulling the islam lure on them.

if it was still ataturk, i'm sure these kurds wouldn't be happy.

[ذو الفقار]

Kurds are probably more conservative and religious when compared to the Turks, but when compared to the Arabs, especially the Iraqi Arabs, they are quite secular. Turkish govt. is way to paranoid about even the slightest rising autonomy for Kurds in Iraq or Syria. Turkey must be really insecure about its Kurds. As a Muslim I am opposed to all forms of ethnic nationalism, but it seems that forcing these different ethnic groups to live with each other inevitably leads to conflict and therefore greater sharpening of ethnic differences and ethnic based politics. Although a religion-based State is ideal, I guess dividing the Middle East along ethnic lines in correction of Sykes Picot would be preferable to the status quo.